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Post by rgeorge on May 13, 2024 21:19:49 GMT -8
Top frosh hitter?? Some folks need to do research! Easy now. He was heralded as top frosh in Country as season started. It's a reach to say he's that today, but at least there is a reference point to make the claim. You're right. It's pretty easy. "Heralded" vs actual results. Hype is often derailed by life circumstances. Caraway had a tough break. And it'll bother him until next season. But, for now others have played and actually excelled. PS- for example if you've not seen Burress (GaTech) and Cuvet (Miami) play they are Frosh studs.
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Post by irimi on May 13, 2024 21:25:37 GMT -8
Some great thoughts on pitching here, so I want to pivot to the lineup. Biggest question - what do we do if Caraway is ready to roll? The most obvious bat to sit for Trent is Kreig, but he and Guerra are the only guys we have that played 1st this season. If you put him at 3rd, I think you need to keep Trosky’s glove in the infield with that surface in Tucson. And Trosky‘s bat has been better than Hainline’s (although with less pop). DH is an option, but then Macias sits. Makes sense against a LHP, but hard to justify the way Dallas is swinging vs RHP. Do we really sit the top frosh hitter in the country when he is a full “go”? Save him as a PH? Or sit the best defensive IF we got, who is also a consistent productive hitter? Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great problem to have too many good options in the lineup. But dam, this decision is big, for this season and next! At one point, I wanted him to play and inject some life into the game. Now, I’m ok with him waiting until next year. I like this lineup. I wouldn’t touch it unless it becomes necessary.
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Post by rgeorge on May 13, 2024 21:27:55 GMT -8
Some great thoughts on pitching here, so I want to pivot to the lineup. Biggest question - what do we do if Caraway is ready to roll? The most obvious bat to sit for Trent is Kreig, but he and Guerra are the only guys we have that played 1st this season. If you put him at 3rd, I think you need to keep Trosky’s glove in the infield with that surface in Tucson. And Trosky‘s bat has been better than Hainline’s (although with less pop). DH is an option, but then Macias sits. Makes sense against a LHP, but hard to justify the way Dallas is swinging vs RHP. Do we really sit the top frosh hitter in the country when he is a full “go”? Save him as a PH? Or sit the best defensive IF we got, who is also a consistent productive hitter? Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great problem to have too many good options in the lineup. But dam, this decision is big, for this season and next! At one point, I wanted him to play and inject some life into the game. Now, I’m ok with him waiting until next year. I like this lineup. I wouldn’t touch it unless it becomes necessary. He'll be medically cleared obviously. But, he'll not be the same overall. And surgery like that will bother you for some time.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on May 13, 2024 22:55:30 GMT -8
At one point, I wanted him to play and inject some life into the game. Now, I’m ok with him waiting until next year. I like this lineup. I wouldn’t touch it unless it becomes necessary. He'll be medically cleared obviously. But, he'll not be the same overall. And surgery like that will bother you for some time. We also saw that it took Kasper (and for that matter MMD as well) a few weeks to get their timing back at the plate. No rehab assignments in college baseball to allow for that, you either get it in live BP in practice or in games that count. With where we're at a point in the season where these games matter and unless he's ripping the cover off the ball, I would think it's more likely he sits and is used as a PH to begin with. There won't be many programs with a better bat available to come off the bench either.
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Post by bvrbooster on May 14, 2024 11:31:01 GMT -8
Some great thoughts on pitching here, so I want to pivot to the lineup. Biggest question - what do we do if Caraway is ready to roll? The most obvious bat to sit for Trent is Kreig, but he and Guerra are the only guys we have that played 1st this season. If you put him at 3rd, I think you need to keep Trosky’s glove in the infield with that surface in Tucson. And Trosky‘s bat has been better than Hainline’s (although with less pop). DH is an option, but then Macias sits. Makes sense against a LHP, but hard to justify the way Dallas is swinging vs RHP. Do we really sit the top frosh hitter in the country when he is a full “go”? Save him as a PH? Or sit the best defensive IF we got, who is also a consistent productive hitter? Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great problem to have too many good options in the lineup. But dam, this decision is big, for this season and next! At one point, I wanted him to play and inject some life into the game. Now, I’m ok with him waiting until next year. I like this lineup. I wouldn’t touch it unless it becomes necessary. It should also be noted that this lineup is firing on all cylinders without Guerra playing. If I were going to try to ease a player back in at this point in the season, it would seem a better bet to to give Guerra some at bats. You will remember that Turley just awful for many weeks last year after a great start, and then found his groove again right around this time in the season.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 14, 2024 12:33:28 GMT -8
I think we need to remember that UCLA is in dead last in the conference. They are not a good ball club, and specifically, their pitching is bad. Im pretty sure they've had a pile of injuries to their staff.
All im saying is UCLA at home, vs Zona on the road, is completely different animal for our lineup. zona has the #1 era in the conference.
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Post by hottubbeaver on May 14, 2024 12:43:12 GMT -8
2022 at UA After taking game one and looking good to take game two (1-0 lead after 6), Turley, Davis, and Susac killed us.
2024 at UA This time around we have a Turley, they don't. They do have another Susac, but he won't be hitting and no Davis.
What does all this mean? I've got too much time on my hands apparently.
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Post by blodgettbeaver on May 14, 2024 12:52:38 GMT -8
"I think we need to remember that UCLA is in dead last in the conference. They are not a good ball club, and specifically, their pitching is bad. Im pretty sure they've had a pile of injuries to their staff. All im saying is UCLA at home, vs Zona on the road, is completely different animal for our lineup. zona has the #1 era in the conference." They have the #1 ERA because they have not played us yet. These are going to be intermural softball scores.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on May 14, 2024 13:25:29 GMT -8
I think we need to remember that UCLA is in dead last in the conference. They are not a good ball club, and specifically, their pitching is bad. Im pretty sure they've had a pile of injuries to their staff. All im saying is UCLA at home, vs Zona on the road, is completely different animal for our lineup. zona has the #1 era in the conference. UCLA's bullpen is terrible. Their starting pitching actually has decent numbers and we hit all 3 of their starters well.
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Post by rgeorge on May 14, 2024 16:20:27 GMT -8
I think we need to remember that UCLA is in dead last in the conference. They are not a good ball club, and specifically, their pitching is bad. Im pretty sure they've had a pile of injuries to their staff. All im saying is UCLA at home, vs Zona on the road, is completely different animal for our lineup. zona has the #1 era in the conference. UCLA's bullpen is terrible. Their starting pitching actually has decent numbers and we hit all 3 of their starters well. UCLA has (1) starter in top 25 in Pac12 play in ERA... Jewett @ 5.11 w/1.74 WHIP. The other main starters have ERAs over 6 in Pac12 play... 6.25, 8.40... WHIP 1.67, 1.93. And, have very low K/9 numbers... 5.74, 4.50 Arizona starters are all in the top 7... 2 33, 3.35, 3.54. All have WHIPs in Top 20, 1.05, 1.30, 1.45. All with decent K/9... 8.18, 8.72, 9.47. And, have given up a total of 10 HRs in 160 IP. One set of starters is very good, the other is on the complete opposite end of that spectrum. *the ball does fly better in Tuscon, not sure how much in comparison to nice weather Goss? But, field surface & dimensions are very different. Goss...330-Left, 365-Left Center, 400-Center, 365-Right Center, 330-Right Hi Corbett...366-Left, 410-Left Center, 392-Center, 405-Right Center, 349-Right The alleys are huge and the track fast. Singles turn into doubles when not used to it. And, in all my trips I've never really seen it as a launching pad. Another topic that no one has brought up as OSU is fully slotted as the #2 yet. I hate, HATE, the #2 seed pool, 2,5,8. If there is one team that is greatly improved and can mash as well as OSU, it's #5 seed ASU. And, they are basically at home. They are done at 17-13, hosting TexasTech(?) I believe. Would rather UO or UU get swept and fall to 5th. Both have the tie breaker over ASU if either/both goes 1-2.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on May 14, 2024 16:38:16 GMT -8
UCLA's bullpen is terrible. Their starting pitching actually has decent numbers and we hit all 3 of their starters well. UCLA has (1) starter in top 25 in Pac12 play in ERA... Jewett @ 5.11 w/1.74 WHIP. The other main starters have ERAs over 6 in Pac12 play... 6.25, 8.40... WHIP 1.67, 1.93. And, have very low K/9 numbers... 5.74, 4.50 Arizona starters are all in the top 7... 2 33, 3.35, 3.54. All have WHIPs in Top 20, 1.05, 1.30, 1.45. All with decent K/9... 8.18, 8.72, 9.47. And, have given up a total of 10 HRs in 160 IP. One set of starters is very good, the other is on the complete opposite end of that spectrum. *the ball does fly better in Tuscon, not sure how much in comparison to nice weather Goss? But, field surface & dimensions are very different. Goss...330-Left, 365-Left Center, 400-Center, 365-Right Center, 330-Right Hi Corbett...366-Left, 410-Left Center, 392-Center, 405-Right Center, 349-Right The alleys are huge and the track fast. Singles turn into doubles when not used to it. And, in all my trips I've never really seen it as a launching pad. Another topic that no one has brought up as OSU is fully slotted as the #2 yet. I hate, HATE, the #2 seed pool, 2,5,8. If there is one team that is greatly improved and can mash as well as OSU, it's #5 seed ASU. And, they are basically at home. They are done at 17-13, hosting TexasTech(?) I believe. Would rather UO or UU get swept and fall to 5th. Both have the tie breaker over ASU if either/both goes 1-2. I could've sworn I had seen UCLA's starting pitching numbers mostly at sub 4.00 ERAs, but those may have been season long numbers and not in conference play. Was also going from memory from the telecast and didn't confirm them... lol. I'll stand by it being better than their bullpen at least.
I agree UA's starting pitching will be the toughest we face in conference this season. We just need to hope the offense truly has woken up and it wasn't just a product of who we were playing (I'm glad to see hit numbers were up at the least).
ASU is definitely a team I'd rather not face, but we did at least sweep them (albeit early in the season and at home). The 8 seed will be either Stanford or UW/WSU and I'd feel just fine with either one of them. So long as UA takes care of business in that scenario we'd be alright even if we stumbled against ASU.
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Post by zeroposter on May 14, 2024 16:57:22 GMT -8
UCLA has (1) starter in top 25 in Pac12 play in ERA... Jewett @ 5.11 w/1.74 WHIP. The other main starters have ERAs over 6 in Pac12 play... 6.25, 8.40... WHIP 1.67, 1.93. And, have very low K/9 numbers... 5.74, 4.50 Arizona starters are all in the top 7... 2 33, 3.35, 3.54. All have WHIPs in Top 20, 1.05, 1.30, 1.45. All with decent K/9... 8.18, 8.72, 9.47. And, have given up a total of 10 HRs in 160 IP. One set of starters is very good, the other is on the complete opposite end of that spectrum. *the ball does fly better in Tuscon, not sure how much in comparison to nice weather Goss? But, field surface & dimensions are very different. Goss...330-Left, 365-Left Center, 400-Center, 365-Right Center, 330-Right Hi Corbett...366-Left, 410-Left Center, 392-Center, 405-Right Center, 349-Right The alleys are huge and the track fast. Singles turn into doubles when not used to it. And, in all my trips I've never really seen it as a launching pad. Another topic that no one has brought up as OSU is fully slotted as the #2 yet. I hate, HATE, the #2 seed pool, 2,5,8. If there is one team that is greatly improved and can mash as well as OSU, it's #5 seed ASU. And, they are basically at home. They are done at 17-13, hosting TexasTech(?) I believe. Would rather UO or UU get swept and fall to 5th. Both have the tie breaker over ASU if either/both goes 1-2. I could've sworn I had seen UCLA's starting pitching numbers mostly at sub 4.00 ERAs, but those may have been season long numbers and not in conference play. Was also going from memory from the telecast and didn't confirm them... lol. I'll stand by it being better than their bullpen at least.
I agree UA's starting pitching will be the toughest we face in conference this season. We just need to hope the offense truly has woken up and it wasn't just a product of who we were playing (I'm glad to see hit numbers were up at the least).
ASU is definitely a team I'd rather not face, but we did at least sweep them (albeit early in the season and at home). The 8 seed will be either Stanford or UW/WSU and I'd feel just fine with either one of them. So long as UA takes care of business in that scenario we'd be alright even if we stumbled against ASU.
[ Some of the UCLA starter problems and ERA elevation were exhibited in the series against Oregon State. When a team like UCLA has very little in the pen, they stay longer with the starter. I actually had some sympathy for a couple of UCLA starters because it was obvious they were toast and should have been pulled. On a very positive note, Turley has smoked some breaking balls the last couple of weeks.
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Post by Judge Smails on May 14, 2024 17:23:55 GMT -8
UCLA's bullpen is terrible. Their starting pitching actually has decent numbers and we hit all 3 of their starters well. UCLA has (1) starter in top 25 in Pac12 play in ERA... Jewett @ 5.11 w/1.74 WHIP. The other main starters have ERAs over 6 in Pac12 play... 6.25, 8.40... WHIP 1.67, 1.93. And, have very low K/9 numbers... 5.74, 4.50 Arizona starters are all in the top 7... 2 33, 3.35, 3.54. All have WHIPs in Top 20, 1.05, 1.30, 1.45. All with decent K/9... 8.18, 8.72, 9.47. And, have given up a total of 10 HRs in 160 IP. One set of starters is very good, the other is on the complete opposite end of that spectrum. *the ball does fly better in Tuscon, not sure how much in comparison to nice weather Goss? But, field surface & dimensions are very different. Goss...330-Left, 365-Left Center, 400-Center, 365-Right Center, 330-Right Hi Corbett...366-Left, 410-Left Center, 392-Center, 405-Right Center, 349-Right The alleys are huge and the track fast. Singles turn into doubles when not used to it. And, in all my trips I've never really seen it as a launching pad. Another topic that no one has brought up as OSU is fully slotted as the #2 yet. I hate, HATE, the #2 seed pool, 2,5,8. If there is one team that is greatly improved and can mash as well as OSU, it's #5 seed ASU. And, they are basically at home. They are done at 17-13, hosting TexasTech(?) I believe. Would rather UO or UU get swept and fall to 5th. Both have the tie breaker over ASU if either/both goes 1-2. 366 to left and 410 to left center? That will kill a lot of HR’s even in warmer weather.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 14, 2024 17:38:56 GMT -8
UCLA's bullpen is terrible. Their starting pitching actually has decent numbers and we hit all 3 of their starters well. UCLA has (1) starter in top 25 in Pac12 play in ERA... Jewett @ 5.11 w/1.74 WHIP. The other main starters have ERAs over 6 in Pac12 play... 6.25, 8.40... WHIP 1.67, 1.93. And, have very low K/9 numbers... 5.74, 4.50 Arizona starters are all in the top 7... 2 33, 3.35, 3.54. All have WHIPs in Top 20, 1.05, 1.30, 1.45. All with decent K/9... 8.18, 8.72, 9.47. And, have given up a total of 10 HRs in 160 IP. One set of starters is very good, the other is on the complete opposite end of that spectrum. *the ball does fly better in Tuscon, not sure how much in comparison to nice weather Goss? But, field surface & dimensions are very different. Goss...330-Left, 365-Left Center, 400-Center, 365-Right Center, 330-Right Hi Corbett...366-Left, 410-Left Center, 392-Center, 405-Right Center, 349-Right The alleys are huge and the track fast. Singles turn into doubles when not used to it. And, in all my trips I've never really seen it as a launching pad. Another topic that no one has brought up as OSU is fully slotted as the #2 yet. I hate, HATE, the #2 seed pool, 2,5,8. If there is one team that is greatly improved and can mash as well as OSU, it's #5 seed ASU. And, they are basically at home. They are done at 17-13, hosting TexasTech(?) I believe. Would rather UO or UU get swept and fall to 5th. Both have the tie breaker over ASU if either/both goes 1-2. Great stuff up top. Oregon State is not fully slotted into the #2, as Oregon, USC, and Utah can pass the Beavs. (Although only USC or Utah can. I.e. only one of the two can; they both cannot.) Oregon State can finish first second, third, or fourth. Oregon State wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with a sweep. Arizona wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with any other result. Oregon State clinches the #2 seed by going 2-1. If Oregon State goes 1-2, Oregon and Utah can pass Oregon State with a sweep. Oregon clinches the #2 seed with a sweep and an Arizona series win. Utah would clinch the #2 seed with a sweep, an Arizona series win, and anything but a sweep by Oregon. Oregon also has the tiebreaker over Arizona and so would finish #2 with a sweep and an Oregon State sweep. Arizona has the tiebreaker over Utah. If Oregon State gets swept, Oregon and Utah can pass Oregon State with a series win. USC can also pass Oregon State with a sweep. USC could win the #2 seed with a sweep, an Arizona sweep, and a Wazzu series win. Arizona State is currently in fifth. The only way that Arizona State does not finish fifth is if Wazzu sweeps Oregon. In that case Arizona State would finish fourth. USC can finish anywhere between second and seventh. Second was outlined above. USC needs to sweep to finish between #2 and #4 and it depends on how the Oregon schools do. If USC does not sweep, they can finish no better than fifth, as Arizona State, Oregon State, and Utah would be guaranteed to finish above USC. And fifth would require a Wazzu sweep of Oregon at PK. Without that USC is in a fight with Cal for sixth, needing to finish with as good or a better record than Cal over the final three to clinch the #6 seed. Cal can finish between #6 and #8. Cal passes USC into #6 by finishing with a better record over the final three. Stanford can pass Cal into #7 with a sweep of UCLA and a Washington sweep over Cal. Stanford has the tiebreaker over Washington, so Washington has to finish two games better over the final three against Cal to finish in #8. Stanford and Washington also have the tiebreakers over Wazzu, so Wazzu has to finish two games better over the final three to pass Washington. Wazzu has to sweep Oregon and see Stanford swept by UCLA to finish ahead of Stanford. If Wazzu does not pass either Stanford or Washington, Wazzu finishes #10 and is on the outside looking in.
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Post by beaverinsider211 on May 14, 2024 18:50:28 GMT -8
Top frosh hitter?? Some folks need to do research! .351/.435/.556 with a .991 OPS? Before he got hurt was a top 4 freshman bat in the country? Was also a top 4 bat on this team? Multiple clutch scenarios that he performed in at the start of the season? I’m not rocket scientist but I would say we need that guy to make a run. Whenever he’s ready I’d put him back out there because not only has he been important this year but he and Turley are the most important pieces of the offense next year. I’ll mention Macias as another important piece for that lineup as well next year. I’ve also heard a lot of people talk about his leadership on the team. We had a good weekend against a bad team in UCLA. I don’t know if Caraway will be ready to go this weekend but whenever he is you don’t leave a game changer typer player on the bench.
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