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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 4, 2024 12:58:03 GMT -8
Quite the luxury that we don't have to ask guys to play beat up to stay in the win column. The depth could make us one of the healthiest post season teams. Willing to bet the playing time helps us retain these young guys. Reeder, Talt, Macias, Krieg, Trosky and Peterson could start at 90% of the schools in D1. It's really important that we retain talent as we can expect to lose at least 1 starting fielder early every season to the draft. We do a good job backfilling with recruits and transfers but 3-5 year guys are the backbone of a culture. This year we lose Baz, MMD, and Kasper for sure. Guerra is probably also off to start his pro career. Next year we lose Smith, Weber, Guerra, and Hainline for sure. Could lose Turley, Caraway, Trosky, Krieg, Macias to the pros. Pretty much the entire defense will turn over in 2 seasons. With no set schedule next year and no league affiliation what makes you think the portal won't come into play as it has for men's basketball and possibly women's basketball. Corvallis is a premier destination for baseball in a way that it just is not for men's and women's basketball. Also, unlike basketball, which is obviously taking a huge step down next year, baseball still might be able to cobble together a top flight schedule. |
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Post by ag87 on Apr 4, 2024 14:02:21 GMT -8
I'm worried about the portal and baseball. I don't know when it opens but I hope the staff can point out a near similar schedule, in terms of competition, to the historical ones.
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 4, 2024 14:08:04 GMT -8
I just don't see where a mid to top of the league team from the big12, sec, or big10 would come to corvallis during their league season. Especially the sec.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 4, 2024 14:31:28 GMT -8
I just don't see where a mid to top of the league team from the big12, sec, or big10 would come to corvallis during their league season. Especially the sec. Why is that necessary? |
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 4, 2024 14:35:50 GMT -8
I just don't see where a mid to top of the league team from the big12, sec, or big10 would come to corvallis during their league season. Especially the sec. Why is that necessary? It may not be, but we are going to have a very hard time getting any P4 team to come to Goss on their conference bye week. We are going to either need to play a lot of road games once other conferences start or we will have to have a monster pre-conference schedule and then try to convince regional G5 teams to come here on their bye weeks. It will be a difficult task not being in a conference. |
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Post by vhalum92 on Apr 4, 2024 14:49:42 GMT -8
This seems to have morphed into a discussion on next years schedule....
If I was in charge... work hard on the best opponents pre conference and get home and homes over the next two years. After conference play starts, I'd work on regional P5 matchups midweek... hopefully 2 games (Tu/Wed). Washington, Oregon, Calford, all make since for that.. you could even go home and away and play those schools 2x within the year where it fits schedule wise. Fill up the weekends after conference play starts with "other" schools... MWC/WCC level type schools. Think of all those good California school programs that could help fill up a schedule for us with there bye weeks and boost there RPI.
Lots of options. I'm not saying it will be as good as the old P 12... but hopefully this is a short stint, like 2 years until we get a rebuilt P 12 dialed in.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 4, 2024 15:24:24 GMT -8
It may not be, but we are going to have a very hard time getting any P4 team to come to Goss on their conference bye week. We are going to either need to play a lot of road games once other conferences start or we will have to have a monster pre-conference schedule and then try to convince regional G5 teams to come here on their bye weeks. It will be a difficult task not being in a conference. Someone said we can't call them G5 if they are D1. Back to the point, I don't really know why that is a problem at the end of the day. We do 3-4 weeks of tourneys, as many former P12 series we can get and backfill our home schedule with lower division (MWC/Big West/WCC). WCC has 8 teams so they only have 7 league series, MWC has 6 league series, big West has a full schedule so it would be bye or preseason. With some good tournaments and a couple decent pre season series our SoS won't be much different than this year with the dog s%#t P12 record. At the end of the day we have to do the only thing that really matters, win. The biggest contributor to RPI is wins, if your schedule gets weaker you have to win more because you get less error envelope. It's really not much different than this year, I wouldn't be surprised if the P12 only has 3 post season teams. |
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Post by richard44 on Apr 4, 2024 16:23:03 GMT -8
It may not be, but we are going to have a very hard time getting any P4 team to come to Goss on their conference bye week. We are going to either need to play a lot of road games once other conferences start or we will have to have a monster pre-conference schedule and then try to convince regional G5 teams to come here on their bye weeks. It will be a difficult task not being in a conference. Someone said we can't call them G5 if they are D1. Back to the point, I don't really know why that is a problem at the end of the day. We do 3-4 weeks of tourneys, as many former P12 series we can get and backfill our home schedule with lower division (MWC/Big West/WCC). WCC has 8 teams so they only have 7 league series, MWC has 6 league series, big West has a full schedule so it would be bye or preseason. With some good tournaments and a couple decent pre season series our SoS won't be much different than this year with the dog s%#t P12 record. At the end of the day we have to do the only thing that really matters, win. The biggest contributor to RPI is wins, if your schedule gets weaker you have to win more because you get less error envelope. It's really not much different than this year, I wouldn't be surprised if the P12 only has 3 post season teams. I’m way less concerned about us being independent than some people. Comparing our baseball program to pretty much any other sports program at OSU is completely an apples to oranges comparison. I don’t see realignment having the same impact on players and the portal with baseball compared to the other sports because of our ability to go independent. People saying that other programs won’t want to play or travel to OSU is ludicrous to me. First of all, it will be an RPI boost for anyone, win or lose. And second of all, it’s national exposure and competition against one of the premier teams in the country, while providing the opportunity to play at one of the premier college baseball destinations in the country. Here are some pieces from an Oregonian article about our program going independent in baseball. “I look at this as an opportunity for us to create our own identity and do something special,” OSU baseball coach Mitch Canham told The Oregonian/OregonLive. “I’m confident that we will be able to put together a competitive schedule that will allow us to continue to be one of the best programs in college baseball.” Sources say it will likely feature schools from a variety of conferences, including the Big Ten, SEC, Big 12, Big West, WCC, WAC and the current Pac-12, among others. The freedom will allow OSU officials to craft a diverse schedule featuring enough high-level opponents to boost its RPI, a must for programs hoping to host a regional or even earn an at-large bid to the NCAA baseball tournament. Playing an independent schedule, OSU insiders believe, would allow Canham and his staff to continue to recruit at its current scale — the Beavers landed the No. 8 class in the nation last year — while simultaneously offering enough high-level competition to continue its tradition of playoff success. “Given the history, prominence and success of our baseball program as a national power, we are committed to building a national schedule that allows our student-athletes to compete with the best teams and at the highest level possible,” OSU athletic director Scott Barnes said. “We are well on our way to creating this.” |
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 4, 2024 18:25:47 GMT -8
Someone said we can't call them G5 if they are D1. Back to the point, I don't really know why that is a problem at the end of the day. We do 3-4 weeks of tourneys, as many former P12 series we can get and backfill our home schedule with lower division (MWC/Big West/WCC). WCC has 8 teams so they only have 7 league series, MWC has 6 league series, big West has a full schedule so it would be bye or preseason. With some good tournaments and a couple decent pre season series our SoS won't be much different than this year with the dog s%#t P12 record. At the end of the day we have to do the only thing that really matters, win. The biggest contributor to RPI is wins, if your schedule gets weaker you have to win more because you get less error envelope. It's really not much different than this year, I wouldn't be surprised if the P12 only has 3 post season teams. I’m way less concerned about us being independent than some people. Comparing our baseball program to pretty much any other sports program at OSU is completely an apples to oranges comparison. I don’t see realignment having the same impact on players and the portal with baseball compared to the other sports because of our ability to go independent. People saying that other programs won’t want to play or travel to OSU is ludicrous to me. First of all, it will be an RPI boost for anyone, win or lose. And second of all, it’s national exposure and competition against one of the premier teams in the country, while providing the opportunity to play at one of the premier college baseball destinations in the country. Here are some pieces from an Oregonian article about our program going independent in baseball. “I look at this as an opportunity for us to create our own identity and do something special,” OSU baseball coach Mitch Canham told The Oregonian/OregonLive. “I’m confident that we will be able to put together a competitive schedule that will allow us to continue to be one of the best programs in college baseball.” Sources say it will likely feature schools from a variety of conferences, including the Big Ten, SEC, Big 12, Big West, WCC, WAC and the current Pac-12, among others. The freedom will allow OSU officials to craft a diverse schedule featuring enough high-level opponents to boost its RPI, a must for programs hoping to host a regional or even earn an at-large bid to the NCAA baseball tournament. Playing an independent schedule, OSU insiders believe, would allow Canham and his staff to continue to recruit at its current scale — the Beavers landed the No. 8 class in the nation last year — while simultaneously offering enough high-level competition to continue its tradition of playoff success. “Given the history, prominence and success of our baseball program as a national power, we are committed to building a national schedule that allows our student-athletes to compete with the best teams and at the highest level possible,” OSU athletic director Scott Barnes said. “We are well on our way to creating this.”Unfortunately scheduling is a two way street and often can be changed at the last minute. OSU is not in charge... the other teams are as they have a conference schedule to abide by, and most of the elite teams have invites to preseason tourneys already lined up. Plus I take Barnes' proclamations with a grain of salt... he made a blanket statement about MBB far too early and look at the portal. No way OSU is make progress/stepping forward. And, at the time he made that statement for baseball conference schedule for the other P4 leagues haven't even been made. So the most he could have had accomplished is preseason stuff... I agree OSU has cache, but unfortunately they are not in a position of strength in making a schedule as an independent. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 4, 2024 18:50:57 GMT -8
I’m way less concerned about us being independent than some people. Comparing our baseball program to pretty much any other sports program at OSU is completely an apples to oranges comparison. I don’t see realignment having the same impact on players and the portal with baseball compared to the other sports because of our ability to go independent. People saying that other programs won’t want to play or travel to OSU is ludicrous to me. First of all, it will be an RPI boost for anyone, win or lose. And second of all, it’s national exposure and competition against one of the premier teams in the country, while providing the opportunity to play at one of the premier college baseball destinations in the country. Here are some pieces from an Oregonian article about our program going independent in baseball. “I look at this as an opportunity for us to create our own identity and do something special,” OSU baseball coach Mitch Canham told The Oregonian/OregonLive. “I’m confident that we will be able to put together a competitive schedule that will allow us to continue to be one of the best programs in college baseball.” Sources say it will likely feature schools from a variety of conferences, including the Big Ten, SEC, Big 12, Big West, WCC, WAC and the current Pac-12, among others. The freedom will allow OSU officials to craft a diverse schedule featuring enough high-level opponents to boost its RPI, a must for programs hoping to host a regional or even earn an at-large bid to the NCAA baseball tournament. Playing an independent schedule, OSU insiders believe, would allow Canham and his staff to continue to recruit at its current scale — the Beavers landed the No. 8 class in the nation last year — while simultaneously offering enough high-level competition to continue its tradition of playoff success. “Given the history, prominence and success of our baseball program as a national power, we are committed to building a national schedule that allows our student-athletes to compete with the best teams and at the highest level possible,” OSU athletic director Scott Barnes said. “We are well on our way to creating this.”Unfortunately scheduling is a two way street and often can be changed at the last minute. OSU is not in charge... the other teams are as they have a conference schedule to abide by, and most of the elite teams have invites to preseason tourneys already lined up. Plus I take Barnes' proclamations with a grain of salt... he made a blanket statement about MBB far too early and look at the portal. No way OSU is make progress/stepping forward. And, at the time he made that statement for baseball conference schedule for the other P4 leagues haven't even been made. So the most he could have had accomplished is preseason stuff... I agree OSU has cache, but unfortunately they are not in a position of strength in making a schedule as an independent. Yep. It’s going to be heavily front loaded and we may have more road games than normal in the non-conference. |
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Apr 4, 2024 23:05:39 GMT -8
Scheduling P4 conference teams on their conference bye week is going to be tough. SEC is out of the question since they are 10 weeks straight and don’t have a bye week. BIG 12 and B1G will want to schedule cupcake series on their bye weeks. Their conference schedules are already grueling enough they won’t want to schedule OSU even if it does look good on the resume for RPI/seeding purposes. The ex PAC 12 teams will probably have some Tuesday/Wednesday week series with the Beavs. The bulk of the schedule during conference play will need to filled with Big West, WCC, Mountain West schools. From an RPI perspective going to need to load up on preseason tourneys. Probably first 3-4 weeks on the road. Have to make sure there are good teams in Suprise. Go back to Texas and probably one other big time tournament like the Frisco Classic. It’s doable but more than likely a lot of away games next year.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 5, 2024 5:25:00 GMT -8
Scheduling P4 conference teams on their conference bye week is going to be tough. SEC is out of the question since they are 10 weeks straight and don’t have a bye week. BIG 12 and B1G will want to schedule cupcake series on their bye weeks. Their conference schedules are already grueling enough they won’t want to schedule OSU even if it does look good on the resume for RPI/seeding purposes. The ex PAC 12 teams will probably have some Tuesday/Wednesday week series with the Beavs. The bulk of the schedule during conference play will need to filled with Big West, WCC, Mountain West schools. From an RPI perspective going to need to load up on preseason tourneys. Probably first 3-4 weeks on the road. Have to make sure there are good teams in Suprise. Go back to Texas and probably one other big time tournament like the Frisco Classic. It’s doable but more than likely a lot of away games next year. What's grueling about B1G baseball? |
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Post by richard44 on Apr 5, 2024 8:01:54 GMT -8
There are lower tier schools every year that have decent to good RPIs because of their non conference/mid week opponents being strong, even if their conference is considered weaker overall. I feel pretty good that if other schools can do it, that Oregon state can do it too.
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Post by messi on Apr 5, 2024 8:09:48 GMT -8
Scheduling P4 conference teams on their conference bye week is going to be tough. SEC is out of the question since they are 10 weeks straight and don’t have a bye week. BIG 12 and B1G will want to schedule cupcake series on their bye weeks. Their conference schedules are already grueling enough they won’t want to schedule OSU even if it does look good on the resume for RPI/seeding purposes. The ex PAC 12 teams will probably have some Tuesday/Wednesday week series with the Beavs. The bulk of the schedule during conference play will need to filled with Big West, WCC, Mountain West schools. From an RPI perspective going to need to load up on preseason tourneys. Probably first 3-4 weeks on the road. Have to make sure there are good teams in Suprise. Go back to Texas and probably one other big time tournament like the Frisco Classic. It’s doable but more than likely a lot of away games next year. What's grueling about B1G baseball? Snow delays |
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Apr 5, 2024 9:52:50 GMT -8
Scheduling P4 conference teams on their conference bye week is going to be tough. SEC is out of the question since they are 10 weeks straight and don’t have a bye week. BIG 12 and B1G will want to schedule cupcake series on their bye weeks. Their conference schedules are already grueling enough they won’t want to schedule OSU even if it does look good on the resume for RPI/seeding purposes. The ex PAC 12 teams will probably have some Tuesday/Wednesday week series with the Beavs. The bulk of the schedule during conference play will need to filled with Big West, WCC, Mountain West schools. From an RPI perspective going to need to load up on preseason tourneys. Probably first 3-4 weeks on the road. Have to make sure there are good teams in Suprise. Go back to Texas and probably one other big time tournament like the Frisco Classic. It’s doable but more than likely a lot of away games next year. What's grueling about B1G baseball? I should have used a different word haha. I just meant there's not really a point for an RPI booster on your bye week when the B1G will already be the 4th or 5th best RPI conference with the PAC 12 going away. B1G also a better conference with the addition of west coast schools. |
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