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Post by nwhoopfan on Apr 13, 2024 15:38:38 GMT -8
Prince was done at Oregon. She left the team, I thought it was to concentrate on getting ready for the draft...but then she wasn't in the draft? That was for '23. Then I thought she retired from hoops, and Campbell talked her into returning? I don't know, she's had a crazy, tumultuous journey, but I really don't think he poached her from UO. So all of this wild and wacky stuff happened and then she somehow ended up at TCU with Campbell? Nothing to see here? Interesting take. My impression of Prince is that she's kinda flaky. You can put it all on Campbell if you want to, but like I said she's had a very strange (and long) journey thru college. |
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Post by beaveragain on Apr 13, 2024 16:49:09 GMT -8
So all of this wild and wacky stuff happened and then she somehow ended up at TCU with Campbell? Nothing to see here? Interesting take. My impression of Prince is that she's kinda flaky. You can put it all on Campbell if you want to, but like I said she's had a very strange (and long) journey thru college. And you can put it all on Prince if you want to. The former UO player ends up with the former UO coach is all a coinkydink. But to me that seems improbable. |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Apr 13, 2024 17:41:46 GMT -8
My impression of Prince is that she's kinda flaky. You can put it all on Campbell if you want to, but like I said she's had a very strange (and long) journey thru college. And you can put it all on Prince if you want to. The former UO player ends up with the former UO coach is all a coinkydink. But to me that seems improbable. I'm not sure what you're going for. She wasn't even going to play college anymore, then changed her mind. Same thing happened with the Cavinder who will be playing at TCU next year. I guess Campbell is good at talking players out of retirement? I don't see the conspiracy though.
You know players follow coaches all the time, right?
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Post by oldbeav on Apr 13, 2024 20:17:05 GMT -8
I know a lot of people hate Mark because he left OSU for uo, but how did he gut any school? He was there with Rueck during the initial rebuild. He helped Graves rebuild uo and as is now obvious, Graves drives people & players away. And lots of former uo players have been on his staff at both Sac State & TCU. He took Sac State from a 3-22 record to winning the conference for the first time in program history in 2 years. Leaving after 2 years for a Power 5 job at a time when white males weren’t getting hired for WBB head coaching jobs seems understandable. And TCU went from 8-23 to 21-12 in one season. Mark & Xavi Lopez appear to be pretty good at recruiting & developing players. But we’re all entitled to our own opinions. When Campbell was at OSU he recruited players selling himself, not the program. So when he went to UO they went with him. Not ok. When he went to SS he recruited away Graves coaches so Graves had to grab whoever he could to fill in his staff. He brought in a bunch of transfers to SS so that they could win in two years, but he made no attempt to build any long term success there. His replacement Do you think the AD would have hired him there if he knew that Campbell would leave after two years and that there would be nothing left for the next year? Then he goes to TCU and pulls Prince away from UO and pulls more folks for his staff at UO's expense. I think if you asked Graves, Rueck or the folks at SS about Campbell it would not be a resounding endorsement. Maybe you think being cutthroat is the way to be, I don't. . Whatever you want to believe, bud, but most of this is not true. |
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Post by beaveragain on Apr 13, 2024 21:32:46 GMT -8
When Campbell was at OSU he recruited players selling himself, not the program. So when he went to UO they went with him. Not ok. When he went to SS he recruited away Graves coaches so Graves had to grab whoever he could to fill in his staff. He brought in a bunch of transfers to SS so that they could win in two years, but he made no attempt to build any long term success there. His replacement Do you think the AD would have hired him there if he knew that Campbell would leave after two years and that there would be nothing left for the next year? Then he goes to TCU and pulls Prince away from UO and pulls more folks for his staff at UO's expense. I think if you asked Graves, Rueck or the folks at SS about Campbell it would not be a resounding endorsement. Maybe you think being cutthroat is the way to be, I don't. . Whatever you want to believe, bud, but most of this is not true. So when it's your thoughts it's your own "opinion". But when it's my thoughts it's "not true"? Ok. |
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Post by greybeav on Apr 13, 2024 21:51:59 GMT -8
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Post by oldbeav on Apr 14, 2024 7:03:50 GMT -8
Whatever you want to believe, bud, but most of this is not true. So when it's your thoughts it's your own "opinion". But when it's my thoughts it's "not true"? Ok. I’m in the “you never know whose next door neighbor, friend, relative is on this board” crew so it’s more than thoughts or opinion. |
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Post by gnawitall on Apr 14, 2024 10:29:50 GMT -8
I'm sure I'm late but saw Dom entered. I feel bad for Scott.
Edit... I just finished watching the series 'Once Upon A Time'. There were alot of Portals to go through to find answers and solve problems. This current climate is where life imitates art.
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Post by beaveragain on Apr 14, 2024 11:31:01 GMT -8
So when it's your thoughts it's your own "opinion". But when it's my thoughts it's "not true"? Ok. I’m in the “you never know whose next door neighbor, friend, relative is on this board” crew so it’s more than thoughts or opinion. Ok, my bad. Where has Campbell been coaching if not at OSU, UO, SS and TCU? |
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Post by beaverstever on Apr 14, 2024 21:24:10 GMT -8
When Campbell was at OSU he recruited players selling himself, not the program. So when he went to UO they went with him. Not ok. When he went to SS he recruited away Graves coaches so Graves had to grab whoever he could to fill in his staff. He brought in a bunch of transfers to SS so that they could win in two years, but he made no attempt to build any long term success there. His replacement Do you think the AD would have hired him there if he knew that Campbell would leave after two years and that there would be nothing left for the next year? Then he goes to TCU and pulls Prince away from UO and pulls more folks for his staff at UO's expense. I think if you asked Graves, Rueck or the folks at SS about Campbell it would not be a resounding endorsement. Maybe you think being cutthroat is the way to be, I don't. . Whatever you want to believe, bud, but most of this is not true. I'm curious which parts you don't believe to be true. My understanding was that PaoPao was also headed to TCU until Staley came knocking. |
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Post by oldbeav on Apr 15, 2024 7:17:22 GMT -8
PaoPao was another in a line of players who left because of Graves. Not so hard to believe that she would want to follow the coaches who recruited her. And not hard to believe once Sedona decided to get serious about playing in the WNBA that she’d look to the coaches who recruited her and have shown themselves to be good developers of players. It obviously wasn’t happening with Graves.
Only one other coach went to Sac State with Mark. He didn’t have to be recruited. The Sac State AD knew Mark from their days together at St Mary’s. Go ahead and call him to see what he thinks of Mark. Lots of players hit the portal when Mark left, which isn’t uncommon. Many of them had a year or more of eligibility left so it’s not like he wasn’t building for the future.
He has several former players on his staff but none of them were at uo when he hired them. They must like him to come back & work for him.
I’m not trying to justify everything he’s done. Just responding to things I know are untrue.
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Post by beaverstever on Apr 15, 2024 8:40:08 GMT -8
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Post by beavs6 on Apr 15, 2024 9:14:02 GMT -8
VanSlooten to MSU.(Spartans)
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 15, 2024 10:39:41 GMT -8
So I have to ask... which players are actually qualified to answer such a poll? I mean 99%+ have never played for either coach?? Yet both seem to keep recruiting and getting transfers at a high level. I mean Graves has nearly a full roster and the 20th rated recruiting class with just (2) signees. And a solid start to a 2025 class. Down years cycle in, OSU fans should know that and about players leaving Players leave, it is the way of the college hoops world now days. But, if players leaving are on Graves, but a similar amount of highly talented player (maybe more at this point?) have left OSU yet it is not on Scott?! How about it is on neither in most cases? |
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Post by sessbeav on Apr 15, 2024 10:42:27 GMT -8
And you can put it all on Prince if you want to. The former UO player ends up with the former UO coach is all a coinkydink. But to me that seems improbable. I'm not sure what you're going for. She wasn't even going to play college anymore, then changed her mind. Same thing happened with the Cavinder who will be playing at TCU next year. I guess Campbell is good at talking players out of retirement? I don't see the conspiracy though.
You know players follow coaches all the time, right?
You misspelled Only Fans. |
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