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Post by easyheat on Mar 14, 2024 20:00:14 GMT -8
I take it, Aiden is still under observation/ being evaluated. If he gets the Friday 3/22 start against the Huskies, it will have been 38 days between starts which raises a question. Considering there may be some "rust" to shake off, perhaps a command issue with a pitch, and concern for not "over-doing" it following the injury, what kind of pitch count might he be under? 50? 60? More?
Aiden is an integral part of the 2024 plan, I suspect the coaches will be uber cautious with him. Frankly, I would be happy with 2 or 3 good innings after this layoff.
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Post by beaverboilermaker on Mar 14, 2024 20:34:41 GMT -8
Frankly, at this point in the season, knowing what we know, and understanding the plan is to win the final 10 games, I’ll take it😁
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Post by grackle on Mar 14, 2024 20:59:03 GMT -8
With this coaching staff, I have no faith that we've been told the real extent of May's injury. 'Wouldn't be surprised not to see him at all again this year.
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Post by joecool on Mar 14, 2024 21:04:52 GMT -8
With this coaching staff, I have no faith that we've been told the real extent of May's injury. 'Wouldn't be surprised not to see him at all again this year. Starting to feel the same way. |
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Post by joecool on Mar 14, 2024 21:07:35 GMT -8
No Hunter? Lattery must be hurt? No word on May? What is going on?
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Post by boydo on Mar 14, 2024 21:43:42 GMT -8
According to another site, May is throwing BP and is possible for next week.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Mar 15, 2024 0:20:41 GMT -8
With this coaching staff, I have no faith that we've been told the real extent of May's injury. 'Wouldn't be surprised not to see him at all again this year. Canham said he's close and has a chance to pitch against UW. Probably a pitch count to start with but if that's anything to go off then hopefully back to a full workload by mid-conference play. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 15, 2024 4:38:06 GMT -8
I hope they ease him back slowly. It would be terrible to bring him back only to lose him again.
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Post by BeaverG20 on Mar 15, 2024 5:09:38 GMT -8
I hope they ease him back slowly. It would be terrible to bring him back only to lose him again. From what I've read, most ucl tears are wear and tear type injuries. It's not that you threw 125 pitches today, it's the 10,000+ max effort pitches you've thrown the last 5-15 years. It's just very hard on the elbow. I'm sure he knows that, and there really isn't anything that can be done except stop throwing hard, and what pitcher is ever gonna do that? I wish him the best and I hope it's nothing, but realistically it's more likely just a matter of time, as it is with most pitchers nowadays. Some guys are Drew Rasmussen, some guys are Gerrit Cole. Some guys make it forever like Tom Glavine or Nolan Ryan. Sadly, I've seen 14 year olds with TJ surgery. |
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Post by Bodhisattva on Mar 15, 2024 7:10:11 GMT -8
Forearm tightness usually is the canary in the coal mine of UCL damage. May might be able to delay the inevitable. If he does come back, I don't expect him to last longer than 5 innings, and probably no more than 2 to start. Which may be enough for this team.
To answer Heat's question. I would lean to less than 50 pitches initially, and probably closer to 30 to start with.
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Post by easyheat on Mar 15, 2024 9:22:03 GMT -8
UCL surgeries are rampant in baseball. The Physio Scientists blame throwing too hard for too long and with two pitches in particular, the "Sweeper" (breaking balls thrown at full velo) and the "power change up". Fastballs aren't the chief culprit, spin is.
The average pitching career now in the Major Leaguers is 2.7 years, not even as good as NFL running backs.
That is astounding.
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Post by zeroposter on Mar 15, 2024 9:45:47 GMT -8
It may also well be ulnar nerve problems rather than a new tear for May. We will see.
Keljo has good stuff, but if he goes out there throwing with total max on every pitch, he will just be a 5 or 6 hitter guy. Dial it back a little and work the edges.
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Post by badwack on Mar 15, 2024 11:02:55 GMT -8
Keljo has Friday Night Stuff. He still hangs a few and gets drilled. Would be great to see a recruit developed into our Fri. Night Guy.
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Post by irimi on Mar 15, 2024 11:15:33 GMT -8
UCL surgeries are rampant in baseball. The Physio Scientists blame throwing too hard for too long and with two pitches in particular, the "Sweeper" (breaking balls thrown at full velo) and the "power change up". Fastballs aren't the chief culprit, spin is. The average pitching career now in the Major Leaguers is 2.7 years, not even as good as NFL running backs. That is astounding. I'm sure you all remember how Daisuke Matsuzaka wanted to pitch and pitch and pitch, while the Boston coaches were trying to stop him. It's fascinating to me how the Japanese can pitch long and hard without it leading to UCL, so I looked into it a little. Apparently, the Japanese tend to use more of the shoulder in the pitching motion while the Americans use more of the elbow. I'm sure that my understanding of it is far too superficial, so if anyone is interested, here is the article. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6512154/So why wouldn't we (US baseball) adopt a new approach to pitching that could alleviate the stress on the elbow? Is it cheaper to burn through pitchers? |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 15, 2024 12:15:02 GMT -8
UCL surgeries are rampant in baseball. The Physio Scientists blame throwing too hard for too long and with two pitches in particular, the "Sweeper" (breaking balls thrown at full velo) and the "power change up". Fastballs aren't the chief culprit, spin is. The average pitching career now in the Major Leaguers is 2.7 years, not even as good as NFL running backs. That is astounding. I'm sure you all remember how Daisuke Matsuzaka wanted to pitch and pitch and pitch, while the Boston coaches were trying to stop him. It's fascinating to me how the Japanese can pitch long and hard without it leading to UCL, so I looked into it a little. Apparently, the Japanese tend to use more of the shoulder in the pitching motion while the Americans use more of the elbow. I'm sure that my understanding of it is far too superficial, so if anyone is interested, here is the article. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6512154/So why wouldn't we (US baseball) adopt a new approach to pitching that could alleviate the stress on the elbow? Is it cheaper to burn through pitchers? Probably a situation where it's much easier to start young which means the apparatus that teaches the motion has to change. If we started today it would be a decade before you see wide spread adoption. |
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