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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 11, 2024 14:41:41 GMT -8
Current RPI: 4 Oregon State 15-1
47 Utah 11-4
52 Cal 11-3
64 Arizona 7-7
66 Oregon 11-4
68 Arizona State 7-8
111 UCLA 5-9
125 Washington 4-7-1
131 Stanford 8-7
156 Wazzu 8-6
179 USC 4-11
Oregon State heads to Salt Lake City to play the team with the best RPI since Arkansas. Oregon State plays no team with a better RPI than Utah for the remainder of the season.
According to RPI, this one is for the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship. Let's go out and give 'em hell, guys!
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Post by RenoBeaver on Mar 11, 2024 15:26:00 GMT -8
Pretty wild 4 of top 5 teams are in Oregon, Washington, and Utah
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Post by messi on Mar 17, 2024 18:27:33 GMT -8
March 17 standings
| Conference
| Overall
| | California | 4-2
| 12-5
| | o | 4-2 | 13-6 | Oregon State
| 2-1
| 17-2
| Arizona State
| 3-3 | 9-10
| | Utah | 3-3
| 12-6
| Stanford
| 3-3
| 9-9
| USC
| 3-3
| 6-13
| | Arizona | 3-3
| 8-10
| Washington State
| 2-4
| 10-8
| | UCLA | 2-4
| 7-11 | | Washington | 1-2
| 6-8-1
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Conference:
o def. Cal. 1-13, 5-1, 10-3 OSU def. Utah 7-5, 8-1, 11-14 ASU def. Arizona 3-2, 4-0, 3-14 USC def. Stanford 5-2, 1-7, 11-8 UCLA def. WSU 4-1, 5-12, 9-4
Non-conference: Washington def. Texas 9-3, 5-3, 3-4 LMU def. Arizona 9-2 Portland def. o 15-5 UConn def. UCLA 5-2 CBU def. USC 3-2 New Mexico def. ASU 6-4 WSU def. UC-Riverside 11-3
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 17, 2024 19:57:14 GMT -8
Current RPI: 4 Oregon State 15-1
47 Utah 11-4
52 Cal 11-3
64 Arizona 7-7
66 Oregon 11-4
68 Arizona State 7-8
111 UCLA 5-9
125 Washington 4-7-1
131 Stanford 8-7
156 Wazzu 8-6
179 USC 4-11
Oregon State heads to Salt Lake City to play the team with the best RPI since Arkansas. Oregon State plays no team with a better RPI than Utah for the remainder of the season.
According to RPI, this one is for the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship. Let's go out and give 'em hell, guys!
Current RPI: 6 Oregon State 17-2 27 Utah 12-6 36 Cal 12-547 Oregon 13-6 69 Arizona State 9-10 98 Arizona 8-10 108 Washington 6-8-1 150 Wazzu 10-8 174 USC 6-13 176 UCLA 7-11 179 Stanford 9-9 Oregon State now plays at Portland with an RPI, the team with the second-best RPI in the West Coast Conference. Portland would have the sixth-best RPI in the Pac-12, were they a member. Oregon State plays no team with a better RPI until April, when Oregon State plays the next three best teams in the Pac-12 in RPI behind Utah right now (Arizona State, @ Cal, Oregon series, & @ Oregon). The fourth series between Arizona State & @ Cal is against Stanford in Goss with the current worst RPI, but the Cardinal were voted #2 in the Pac-12 before the season started. Oregon State also has two other games against Portland in April, one at Goss and the other at Ron Tonkin. Between Stanford and @ Cal is a two-game trip to Reno to play Nevada. Nevada currently has the second-highest RPI in the Mountain West at 99, which would currently be seventh-best in the Pac-12. Just to complete the April analysis, the month of April kicks off with two games against Gonzaga with their current 246 RPI poison. Only Bakersfield's 280 RPI is worse than Gonzaga's RPI at this point. Unless Gonzaga really kicks it into gear over the next two weeks, it might be better that those early April games against Gonzaga rain out. Oregon State finishes March with series against #7 in RPI Washington & @ #9 in RPI USC. Those are two slightly better series than the RPI poison that Oregon State will play in early May: @ #8 in RPI Wazzu, @ Gonzaga, & #10 in RPI UCLA. Hopefully Oregon State builds up a great RPI through April, because win or lose, the RPI looks to take a huge hit in early May. Oregon State finishes the regular season in the single worst road trip to end the regular season of any Pac-12 team, in inhospitable Tucson in the second half of May against an Arizona team, which is currently in the middle of the conference in RPI. Assuming that Oregon State does not finish bottom two, the Beavs will drive the two hours North from Tucson to play in Scottsdale the week following. |
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Post by messi on Mar 25, 2024 6:54:13 GMT -8
March 25 standings
| Conference | Overall | | Oregon State | 5-1 | 21-2 | | o | 6-3 | 15-7 | | Utah | 5-4 | 16-7 | | California | 5-4 | 14-7 | | Washington State | 5-4 | 15-8 | | Stanford | 3-3 | 9-11 | | Arizona | 4-5 | 10-12 | | UCLA | 4-5 | 9-12 | | USC | 4-5 | 8-15 | | Arizona State | 3-6 | 10-14 | | Washington | 1-5 | 6-11-1 |
Conference Oregon State def. Washington 3-1, 18-2, 10-0 o def. Arizona 2-1, 3-2, 4-15 Utah def. California 7-3, 1-3, 6-5 Washington State def. Arizona State 8-7, 3-2, 8-6 UCLA def. USC 2-15, 7-6, 6-3 Non-conference Creighton def. Stanford 3-2, 8-2, TBD California def. San Francisco 11-3 Washington State def. Seattle 12-5, 10-3 Utah def. Northern Colorado 20-6, 7-6 Oregon State def. Portland 14-3 Arizona def. Grand Canyon 6-4 USC def. Long Beach State 7-3 Arizona State split Utah Valley 5-4, 5-7 |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 25, 2024 13:54:29 GMT -8
March 25 standings
| Conference | Overall | | Oregon State | 5-1 | 21-2 | | o | 6-3 | 15-7 | | Utah | 5-4 | 16-7 | | California | 5-4 | 14-7 | | Washington State | 5-4 | 15-8 | | Stanford | 3-3 | 9-11 | | Arizona | 4-5 | 10-12 | | UCLA | 4-5 | 9-12 | | USC | 4-5 | 8-15 | | Arizona State | 3-6 | 10-14 | | Washington | 1-5 | 6-11-1 |
Conference Oregon State def. Washington 3-1, 18-2, 10-0 o def. Arizona 2-1, 3-2, 4-15 Utah def. California 7-3, 1-3, 6-5 Washington State def. Arizona State 8-7, 3-2, 8-6 UCLA def. USC 2-15, 7-6, 6-3 Non-conference Creighton def. Stanford 3-2, 8-2, TBD California def. San Francisco 11-3 Washington State def. Seattle 12-5, 10-3 Utah def. Northern Colorado 20-6, 7-6 Oregon State def. Portland 14-3 Arizona def. Grand Canyon 6-4 USC def. Long Beach State 7-3 Arizona State split Utah Valley 5-4, 5-7 Stanford came back from 3-1 down in the fifth to win 6-3, avoiding the sweep. The Cardinal have looked like one of the worst teams in the Pac-12 this year so far. Stanford has not won a home series yet, with only two series wins in Houston against Rice and in Seattle against Washington. Cal, Oregon, and Utah look like the class of the conference behind Oregon State. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 25, 2024 14:10:41 GMT -8
Current RPI: 4 Oregon State 15-1
47 Utah 11-4
52 Cal 11-3
64 Arizona 7-7
66 Oregon 11-4
68 Arizona State 7-8
111 UCLA 5-9
125 Washington 4-7-1
131 Stanford 8-7
156 Wazzu 8-6
179 USC 4-11
Oregon State heads to Salt Lake City to play the team with the best RPI since Arkansas. Oregon State plays no team with a better RPI than Utah for the remainder of the season.
According to RPI, this one is for the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship. Let's go out and give 'em hell, guys!
Current RPI: 6 Oregon State 17-2 27 Utah 12-6 36 Cal 12-547 Oregon 13-6 69 Arizona State 9-10 98 Arizona 8-10 108 Washington 6-8-1 150 Wazzu 10-8 174 USC 6-13 176 UCLA 7-11 179 Stanford 9-9 Oregon State now plays at Portland with an RPI, the team with the second-best RPI in the West Coast Conference. Portland would have the sixth-best RPI in the Pac-12, were they a member. Oregon State plays no team with a better RPI until April, when Oregon State plays the next three best teams in the Pac-12 in RPI behind Utah right now (Arizona State, @ Cal, Oregon series, & @ Oregon). The fourth series between Arizona State & @ Cal is against Stanford in Goss with the current worst RPI, but the Cardinal were voted #2 in the Pac-12 before the season started. Oregon State also has two other games against Portland in April, one at Goss and the other at Ron Tonkin. Between Stanford and @ Cal is a two-game trip to Reno to play Nevada. Nevada currently has the second-highest RPI in the Mountain West at 99, which would currently be seventh-best in the Pac-12. Just to complete the April analysis, the month of April kicks off with two games against Gonzaga with their current 246 RPI poison. Only Bakersfield's 280 RPI is worse than Gonzaga's RPI at this point. Unless Gonzaga really kicks it into gear over the next two weeks, it might be better that those early April games against Gonzaga rain out. Oregon State finishes March with series against #7 in RPI Washington & @ #9 in RPI USC. Those are two slightly better series than the RPI poison that Oregon State will play in early May: @ #8 in RPI Wazzu, @ Gonzaga, & #10 in RPI UCLA. Hopefully Oregon State builds up a great RPI through April, because win or lose, the RPI looks to take a huge hit in early May. Oregon State finishes the regular season in the single worst road trip to end the regular season of any Pac-12 team, in inhospitable Tucson in the second half of May against an Arizona team, which is currently in the middle of the conference in RPI. Assuming that Oregon State does not finish bottom two, the Beavs will drive the two hours North from Tucson to play in Scottsdale the week following. Current RPI: 4 Oregon State 21-2 22 Utah 16-7 43 Cal 14-7 62 Oregon 15-7 93 Washington 6-11-1 94 Arizona 10-12 96 Wazzu 15-8 128 Arizona State 10-14 164 UCLA 9-12 175 USC 8-15 186 Stanford 10-11 Oregon State finishes March with a series @ #10 in RPI USC. Washington and @ USC were looking like better series than @ Wazzu and UCLA. But UCLA's series win against USC has flipped that script, and those two games look better now. Oregon State finishes the regular season in the single worst road trip to end the regular season of any Pac-12 team, in inhospitable Tucson in the second half of May against an Arizona team, which is currently in the middle of the conference in RPI. Assuming that Oregon State does not finish bottom two, the Beavs will drive the two hours North from Tucson to play in Scottsdale the week following. In April, Oregon State plays three of the four best teams in the Pac-12 in RPI behind Utah and Washington right now (Arizona State, @ Cal, Oregon series, & @ Oregon). The fourth series between Arizona State & @ Cal is against Stanford in Goss still with the current worst RPI, but the Cardinal were voted #2 in the Pac-12 before the season started. Oregon State also has two other games against Portland in April, one at Goss and the other at Ron Tonkin. Between Stanford and @ Cal is a two-game trip to Reno to play Nevada. Nevada still the second-highest RPI in the Mountain West at 124, which would now be eighth-best in the Pac-12. Just to complete the April analysis, the month of April kicks off with two games against Gonzaga with their current 210 RPI poison. Only Bakersfield's 267 RPI is worse than Gonzaga's RPI at this point on the Beavs' schedule. Unless Gonzaga really kicks it into gear over the next couple of days, it might be better that those early April games against Gonzaga rain out. I just wanted to point out that RPI sucks. Oregon State swept Washington, and the Huskies rose 15 spots in RPI. |
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 25, 2024 15:26:16 GMT -8
RPI sucks because it has little to do with the actual team! 75% of the calculation is based on how the opponents and the opponents of the opponents do. Maybe one of the most worthless data points in sports ever. Besides LOB  |
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Post by 56chevy on Mar 25, 2024 17:03:19 GMT -8
RPI sucks because it has little to do with the actual team! 75% of the calculation is based on how the opponents and the opponents of the opponents do. Maybe one of the most worthless data points in sports ever. Besides LOB Season ending RPI is a reliable indicator of the chances of getting to Omaha. Over the last three seasons, 63% of those who had an RPI in the top eight made it to Omaha. 25% of the teams in the nine through sixteen position made it to Omaha. Three teams out of the 144 eligible who were outside the top 16 but made the NCAA tournament ultimately made it to Omaha, which works out to be about a 2% chance. |
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Post by ricke71 on Mar 25, 2024 17:33:41 GMT -8
RPI sucks because it has little to do with the actual team! 75% of the calculation is based on how the opponents and the opponents of the opponents do. Maybe one of the most worthless data points in sports ever. Besides LOB Season ending RPI is a reliable indicator of the chances of getting to Omaha. Over the last three seasons, 63% of those who had an RPI in the top eight made it to Omaha. 25% of the teams in the nine through sixteen position made it to Omaha. Three teams out of the 144 eligible who were outside the top 16 but made the NCAA tournament ultimately made it to Omaha, which works out to be about a 2% chance. In numerous past seasons, 100% of those teams that won a best 2 out of 3 series in an early-June Super Regional, made it to Omaha. The rest of the teams, no matter what their RPI, did not go to the College WS. A trip to Omaha ultimately comes down to what happens between June 7 and June 10. |
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 25, 2024 18:42:52 GMT -8
RPI sucks because it has little to do with the actual team! 75% of the calculation is based on how the opponents and the opponents of the opponents do. Maybe one of the most worthless data points in sports ever. Besides LOB Season ending RPI is a reliable indicator of the chances of getting to Omaha. Over the last three seasons, 63% of those who had an RPI in the top eight made it to Omaha. 25% of the teams in the nine through sixteen position made it to Omaha. Three teams out of the 144 eligible who were outside the top 16 but made the NCAA tournament ultimately made it to Omaha, which works out to be about a 2% chance. It's a self fulfilling prophecy... since the committee used it (no longer will it be as big of factor) heavily to select 33 at large teams. And the 31 auto berths are conference champs so likely to have better RPI. Generally the top 52-56 in RPI are strongly considered regardless of other factors. Hence, the heavy SEC/ACC bias in the field. Again it's not predictive when it's used to pick the teams. So in the last 3 seasons (what other were worse?) RPI wasn't accurate 37% of the time? Why? Because RPI calculation is based on how opponents do. So, inherently stronger conferences have a huge RPI advantage. It doesn't make it an accurate data set and is why other sports moved away from it. And, college baseball has begun to also beginning this season... www.baseballamerica.com/stories/college-baseball-tweaked-the-ncaa-tournament-selection-process-but-will-it-change-anything/ |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 25, 2024 18:55:14 GMT -8
Season ending RPI is a reliable indicator of the chances of getting to Omaha. Over the last three seasons, 63% of those who had an RPI in the top eight made it to Omaha. 25% of the teams in the nine through sixteen position made it to Omaha. Three teams out of the 144 eligible who were outside the top 16 but made the NCAA tournament ultimately made it to Omaha, which works out to be about a 2% chance. In numerous past seasons, 100% of those teams that won a best 2 out of 3 series in an early-June Super Regional, made it to Omaha. The rest of the teams, no matter what their RPI, did not go to the College WS. A trip to Omaha ultimately comes down to what happens between June 7 and June 10. Crazy stat bro. High RPI is important to us for one reason, hosting. Not only does home field advantage give you a leg up but it also gives your university more chances to sell buttloads of tickets, food, drinks and merch. Believe it or not going to the CWS is typically going to cost a program money unless it's made up for with merch sales. |
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Post by 56chevy on Mar 25, 2024 20:53:52 GMT -8
Season ending RPI is a reliable indicator of the chances of getting to Omaha. Over the last three seasons, 63% of those who had an RPI in the top eight made it to Omaha. 25% of the teams in the nine through sixteen position made it to Omaha. Three teams out of the 144 eligible who were outside the top 16 but made the NCAA tournament ultimately made it to Omaha, which works out to be about a 2% chance. It's a self fulfilling prophecy... since the committee used it (no longer will it be as big of factor) heavily to select 33 at large teams. And the 31 auto berths are conference champs so likely to have better RPI. Generally the top 52-56 in RPI are strongly considered regardless of other factors. Hence, the heavy SEC/ACC bias in the field. Again it's not predictive when it's used to pick the teams. So in the last 3 seasons (what other were worse?) RPI wasn't accurate 37% of the time? Why? Because RPI calculation is based on how opponents do. So, inherently stronger conferences have a huge RPI advantage. It doesn't make it an accurate data set and is why other sports moved away from it. And, college baseball has begun to also beginning this season... www.baseballamerica.com/stories/college-baseball-tweaked-the-ncaa-tournament-selection-process-but-will-it-change-anything/ Proponents of RPI will say it indicates the strength of teams. I'm not proclaiming RPI as good or bad. Hard to argue that it is meaningless if one of your points is that it is a self fulfilling prophecy. Not to state the obvious, but to get to Omaha a team has to win a tournament and then a series. A 63% success in predicting the eight teams that will accomplish that feat seems to be a pretty good number. The statistical odds based on the format without measuring a teams strength would be 12.5% to get to Omaha. The most surprising data point to me is that teams outside the top 16 went to Omaha at a 2% rate. One of those, Stanford had an RPI of 17. Virginia came in as a 27 and Oral Roberts at 47. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 25, 2024 21:08:26 GMT -8
It's a self fulfilling prophecy... since the committee used it (no longer will it be as big of factor) heavily to select 33 at large teams. And the 31 auto berths are conference champs so likely to have better RPI. Generally the top 52-56 in RPI are strongly considered regardless of other factors. Hence, the heavy SEC/ACC bias in the field. Again it's not predictive when it's used to pick the teams. So in the last 3 seasons (what other were worse?) RPI wasn't accurate 37% of the time? Why? Because RPI calculation is based on how opponents do. So, inherently stronger conferences have a huge RPI advantage. It doesn't make it an accurate data set and is why other sports moved away from it. And, college baseball has begun to also beginning this season... www.baseballamerica.com/stories/college-baseball-tweaked-the-ncaa-tournament-selection-process-but-will-it-change-anything/ Proponents of RPI will say it indicates the strength of teams. I'm not proclaiming RPI as good or bad. Hard to argue that it is meaningless if one of your points is that it is a self fulfilling prophecy. Not to state the obvious, but to get to Omaha a team has to win a tournament and then a series. A 63% success in predicting the eight teams that will accomplish that feat seems to be a pretty good number. The statistical odds based on the format without measuring a teams strength would be 12.5% to get to Omaha. The most surprising data point to me is that teams outside the top 16 went to Omaha at a 2% rate. One of those, Stanford had an RPI of 17. Virginia came in as a 27 and Oral Roberts at 47. What year did Stanford have an RPI North of 16? Looking at Boyd's World, the Cardinal have not had an RPI North of 16 to end the regular season. |
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Post by 56chevy on Mar 25, 2024 21:22:07 GMT -8
Proponents of RPI will say it indicates the strength of teams. I'm not proclaiming RPI as good or bad. Hard to argue that it is meaningless if one of your points is that it is a self fulfilling prophecy. Not to state the obvious, but to get to Omaha a team has to win a tournament and then a series. A 63% success in predicting the eight teams that will accomplish that feat seems to be a pretty good number. The statistical odds based on the format without measuring a teams strength would be 12.5% to get to Omaha. The most surprising data point to me is that teams outside the top 16 went to Omaha at a 2% rate. One of those, Stanford had an RPI of 17. Virginia came in as a 27 and Oral Roberts at 47. What year did Stanford have an RPI North of 16? Looking at Boyd's World, the Cardinal have not had an RPI North of 16 to end the regular season. 2023 according to Nolan. |
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