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Post by messi on Mar 7, 2024 7:33:35 GMT -8
Beavs start off non-conference due to no Colorado, but here are the records going into the start of conference play | Oregon State | 11-1 | | Utah | 9-3 | | o | 9-3 | | California | 8-3 | | Washington State | 7-4 | | Arizona State | 6-6 | | Stanford | 6-6 | | Arizona | 5-6 | | UCLA | 5-6 | | Washington | 3-5-1 | | USC | 3-9 |
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Post by kersting13 on Mar 7, 2024 8:50:04 GMT -8
Thoughts? How does USC go from being the most dominant college baseball team of all time to a complete afterthought/basement dweller?
It's not like they are in a bad location, or were some outlier small school that only dominated because no one else put in the effort. They should have EVERYTHING in place to make them a perpetual contender on a national scale.
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Post by irimi on Mar 7, 2024 9:35:22 GMT -8
Love seeing UW at the bottom. Huck the Fuskies forever!
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Post by irimi on Mar 7, 2024 9:44:45 GMT -8
Thoughts? How does USC go from being the most dominant college baseball team of all time to a complete afterthought/basement dweller? It's not like they are in a bad location, or were some outlier small school that only dominated because no one else put in the effort. They should have EVERYTHING in place to make them a perpetual contender on a national scale. Have you seen their attendance counts? I think public disinterest is a factor. |
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Post by tamatrix on Mar 7, 2024 9:53:40 GMT -8
Thoughts? How does USC go from being the most dominant college baseball team of all time to a complete afterthought/basement dweller? It's not like they are in a bad location, or were some outlier small school that only dominated because no one else put in the effort. They should have EVERYTHING in place to make them a perpetual contender on a national scale. Having to drive to Irvine for practice is pretty darn brutal...not sure how much it's impacting them but they have a 1.5 hour commute to do pretty much anything this year... |
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Post by zeroposter on Mar 7, 2024 9:57:46 GMT -8
Without looking too deeply, I would say that the Beavers can’t afford many stumbles. The conference looks to have screwed itself out of a couple of host possibilities already. There aren’t a lot of RPI builders left on the Beaver schedule, but there are a lot of RPI killers.
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Post by beavs6 on Mar 7, 2024 10:48:54 GMT -8
Without looking too deeply, I would say that the Beavers can’t afford many stumbles. The conference looks to have screwed itself out of a couple of host possibilities already. There aren’t a lot of RPI builders left on the Beaver schedule, but there are a lot of RPI killers. Solution...Win. Go 2-1 (or better every weekend and the hosting/RPI/ranking will take care of itself) *I know you know that and it goes without saying...but I said it.  |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 7, 2024 11:39:11 GMT -8
Thoughts? How does USC go from being the most dominant college baseball team of all time to a complete afterthought/basement dweller? It's not like they are in a bad location, or were some outlier small school that only dominated because no one else put in the effort. They should have EVERYTHING in place to make them a perpetual contender on a national scale. Bad coaching. They fired Mike Gillespie and didn't have a good backup plan. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 7, 2024 13:18:26 GMT -8
Thoughts? How does USC go from being the most dominant college baseball team of all time to a complete afterthought/basement dweller? It's not like they are in a bad location, or were some outlier small school that only dominated because no one else put in the effort. They should have EVERYTHING in place to make them a perpetual contender on a national scale. Gillespie was in a Super Regional, the Corvallis Super Regional, in 2005 but had posted non-winning seasons in three of the previous four seasons for the first time in more than 80 years. The foolish USC fanbase thought that they could do better and chased off Gillespie. USC hired Chad Kreuter who is a demonstrably bad coach and fired Kreuter after three years. USC hired Frank Cruz, who was found to have cheated right before year three. USC promoted Dan Hubbs after Cruz was fired. The Trojans got a pretty good regional draw in Lake Elsinore but lost to the criminally-underrated Cavaliers, which would win a National Championship at season's end. Two year's later, Hubbs posted the worst USC season in more than 30 years. It seemed like the Trojans were rebuilding. But USC grew impatient and fired Hubbs. USC hired Jason Gill, which put up two worse seasons than the two seasons that cost Hubbs his job. USC put up the best season in eight years last year but were screwed out of a spot, thanks, in part, to Oregon. But the big issue last year was the Committee was a freaking joke, worst Committee in at least eight years. USC had a bad start this year, but USC started 5-6-1 in nonconference play last year and then took off, so I would not necessarily count them out yet. Still, USC has sucked for almost two decades, because of pure foolish pride. The "we can do better" mindset is often dead wrong and in the most stupid and foolish way imaginable. |
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Post by easyheat on Mar 7, 2024 14:23:45 GMT -8
Another issue you can't overlook is Coach Savage at UCLA - the program and player development.
In recent years, the preponderance of UCLA's best soCal talent had USC offers.
And UCLA is not the only elite program mining area talent, Vandy, LSU, TCU and others are aggressively recruiting the state of California.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 7, 2024 15:49:12 GMT -8
Thoughts? How does USC go from being the most dominant college baseball team of all time to a complete afterthought/basement dweller? It's not like they are in a bad location, or were some outlier small school that only dominated because no one else put in the effort. They should have EVERYTHING in place to make them a perpetual contender on a national scale. Same way they helped sink the conference? |
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Post by messi on Mar 11, 2024 8:38:27 GMT -8
March 11 Standings
| Conference | Overall | | California | 3-0 | 11-3 | | Utah | 2-1 | 11-4 | | o | 2-1 | 11-4 | | Stanford | 2-1 | 8-7 | | Arizona | 2-1 | 7-7 | | Washington State | 1-2 | 8-6 | | Arizona State | 1-2 | 7-8 | | Washington | 1-2 | 4-7-1 | | USC | 1-2 | 4-11 | | Oregon State | 0-0 | 15-1 | | UCLA | 0-3 | 5-9 |
In conference: Cal def. UCLA 11-7, 4-1, 6-5 Utah def. Washington State 1-7, 5-4, 7-6 o def. Arizona State 4-5, 6-4, 8-5 Stanford def. Washington 3-2, 4-2, 2-9 Arizona def. USC 16-9, 9-6, 1-4 In non-conference: Oregon State def. CSUN 9-2, 8-6, 7-6, 9-7 Cal def. Stanford 5-0 Utah fell to Santa Clara 2-5 o def. Grand Canyon 9-4, 13-5 Arizona State def. UT-Arlington 6-3 USC def. Cal-State Fullerton 6-5 UCLA fell to Long Beach State 0-2 |
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Post by kersting13 on Mar 11, 2024 8:54:16 GMT -8
March 11 Standings
| Conference | Overall | | California | 3-0 | 11-3 | | Utah | 2-1 | 11-4 | | o | 2-1 | 11-4 | | Stanford | 2-1 | 8-7 | | Arizona | 2-1 | 7-7 | | Washington State | 1-2 | 8-6 | | Arizona State | 1-2 | 7-8 | | Washington | 1-2 | 4-7-1 | | USC | 1-2 | 4-11 | | Oregon State | 0-0 | 15-1 | | UCLA | 0-3 | 5-9 |
In conference: Cal def. UCLA 11-7, 4-1, 6-5 Utah def. Washington State 1-7, 5-4, 7-6 o def. Arizona State 4-5, 6-4, 8-5 Stanford def. Washington 3-2, 4-2, 2-9 Arizona def. USC 16-9, 9-6, 1-4 In non-conference: Oregon State def. CSUN 9-2, 8-6, 7-6, 9-7 Cal def. Stanford 5-0 Utah fell to Santa Clara 2-5 o def. Grand Canyon 9-4, 13-5 Arizona State def. UT-Arlington 6-3 USC def. Cal-State Fullerton 6-5 UCLA fell to Long Beach State 0-2 0-0 record ought to be between the 2-1 and the 1-2 teams in 6th place. 1.5 games back of 1st. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on Mar 11, 2024 10:54:07 GMT -8
March 11 Standings
| Conference | Overall | | California | 3-0 | 11-3 | | Utah | 2-1 | 11-4 | | o | 2-1 | 11-4 | | Stanford | 2-1 | 8-7 | | Arizona | 2-1 | 7-7 | | Washington State | 1-2 | 8-6 | | Arizona State | 1-2 | 7-8 | | Washington | 1-2 | 4-7-1 | | USC | 1-2 | 4-11 | | Oregon State | 0-0 | 15-1 | | UCLA | 0-3 | 5-9 |
In conference: Cal def. UCLA 11-7, 4-1, 6-5 Utah def. Washington State 1-7, 5-4, 7-6 o def. Arizona State 4-5, 6-4, 8-5 Stanford def. Washington 3-2, 4-2, 2-9 Arizona def. USC 16-9, 9-6, 1-4 In non-conference: Oregon State def. CSUN 9-2, 8-6, 7-6, 9-7 Cal def. Stanford 5-0 Utah fell to Santa Clara 2-5 o def. Grand Canyon 9-4, 13-5 Arizona State def. UT-Arlington 6-3 USC def. Cal-State Fullerton 6-5 UCLA fell to Long Beach State 0-2 0-0 record ought to be between the 2-1 and the 1-2 teams in 6th place. 1.5 games back of 1st. I think win % is usually how standings are listed. |
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Post by kersting13 on Mar 11, 2024 12:36:42 GMT -8
0-0 record ought to be between the 2-1 and the 1-2 teams in 6th place. 1.5 games back of 1st. I think win % is usually how standings are listed. In baseball, the first factor is by games over/under .500. If there's a tie to be broken, then they go to win %. |
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