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Post by richard44 on Feb 18, 2024 21:50:49 GMT -8
Is this the best lineup the Beavs have ever had?
2018 will be tough to beat, no doubt. College World Series and four first round draft picks.
2024’s lineup has guys like Caraway, Turley, Hainline batting 5-9. This lineup will probably, statistically, put up better offensive numbers than 2018.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Feb 19, 2024 5:03:39 GMT -8
Is this the best lineup the Beavs have ever had? 2018 will be tough to beat, no doubt. College World Series and four first round draft picks. 2024’s lineup has guys like Caraway, Turley, Hainline batting 5-9. This lineup will probably, statistically, put up better offensive numbers than 2018. No idea but it is the deepest. |
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Post by irimi on Feb 19, 2024 5:33:47 GMT -8
Is this the best lineup the Beavs have ever had? 2018 will be tough to beat, no doubt. College World Series and four first round draft picks. 2024’s lineup has guys like Caraway, Turley, Hainline batting 5-9. This lineup will probably, statistically, put up better offensive numbers than 2018. I remember thinking that the '17 team was better than the '18 team. lol But the '18 team had that magic that doesn't show up in stat lines. This year's team is shaping up to be pretty special indeed, but it's a long season and yesterday looked pretty mediocre, until it wasn't. |
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Post by Bodhisattva on Feb 19, 2024 6:47:45 GMT -8
17 was the best team. They didn’t win the championship, but they were the best.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Feb 19, 2024 7:30:23 GMT -8
Purely from a hitting potential, it's got to be the best from top to bottom, and the depth that may not even be in the lineup day to day.
Closest would be 17 I think with KJ at first, and Donahue in the OF.
The '18 team, as incredible as it was, had Taylor, and Anderson in the lineup. Two great defensive players, but not great hitters.
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Post by easyheat on Feb 19, 2024 15:26:13 GMT -8
For the want of a competent plate umpire, we had a good shot at Back-2 Back titles in 2017-'18.
I though Florida was beatable in a 2017 final.
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Post by epbeav on Feb 19, 2024 19:43:37 GMT -8
Purely from a hitting potential, it's got to be the best from top to bottom, and the depth that may not even be in the lineup day to day. Closest would be 17 I think with KJ at first, and Donahue in the OF. The '18 team, as incredible as it was, had Taylor, and Anderson in the lineup. Two great defensive players, but not great hitters. I'm sorry but I have to step up for these 2018 players. Taylor batted .274 and Anderson .268 that year. If this year's starting players with the lowest batting averages hit "only" .274 or .268, seems like good news to me. Most years our team average is only a little over those numbers. Sometimes less... 2019 was .261 and that was with Adley hitting .411. Last year was good, .294. 2018 was great at .321. That's the highest in the 15 years I've been tracking the stats. So, high praise for the 2018 team. What an amazing season. But I won't be forgetting Taylor, Anderson, Nobach, and especially Armstrong for the way he filled in for Madrigal when he went down. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Feb 19, 2024 20:26:25 GMT -8
Purely from a hitting potential, it's got to be the best from top to bottom, and the depth that may not even be in the lineup day to day. Closest would be 17 I think with KJ at first, and Donahue in the OF. The '18 team, as incredible as it was, had Taylor, and Anderson in the lineup. Two great defensive players, but not great hitters. I'm sorry but I have to step up for these 2018 players. Taylor batted .274 and Anderson .268 that year. If this year's starting players with the lowest batting averages hit "only" .274 or .268, seems like good news to me. Most years our team average is only a little over those numbers. Sometimes less... 2019 was .261 and that was with Adley hitting .411. Last year was good, .294. 2018 was great at .321. That's the highest in the 15 years I've been tracking the stats. So, high praise for the 2018 team. What an amazing season. But I won't be forgetting Taylor, Anderson, Nobach, and especially Armstrong for the way he filled in for Madrigal when he went down. I don't mean to take anything from those guys. They were great baseball players. Anderson was a very good defensive left fielder, as was Taylor at first. They were overshadowed at the plate by a the rest of a lineup that was stacked. I'm purely speculating on the potential of this lineup. They may not reach potential. That is always a possibility. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Feb 19, 2024 20:36:23 GMT -8
One thing I'm pretty dam sure of. Beavs have never been #2 in homers through 3 games.
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Post by irimi on Feb 19, 2024 21:00:23 GMT -8
Is this the best lineup the Beavs have ever had? 2018 will be tough to beat, no doubt. College World Series and four first round draft picks. 2024’s lineup has guys like Caraway, Turley, Hainline batting 5-9. This lineup will probably, statistically, put up better offensive numbers than 2018. Been rethinking this.
It is too early to tell, but I think this is the most powerful offense we've fielded. Often, the team has a batting slump in which they can barely manage a run or they can't string together hits to score a run. It looked like something like that might've been starting on Sunday, but BAM that was over.
I think we have a squad this year that won't fall into a hitting slump. There is always a guy there who has the ability to right the ship, so to speak. Right now we have 2 or 3 who are struggling, but the others are picking up the slack. And you know that the 2 or 3 who are struggling now will eventually find their groove.
We have averaged 8 runs a game over the first 4 games. That's a lot of firepower.
This Texas series will be more illuminating, but as of right now, yeah, this lineup doesn't have a weak spot.
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Post by 56chevy on Feb 19, 2024 21:00:54 GMT -8
Is this the best lineup the Beavs have ever had? 2018 will be tough to beat, no doubt. College World Series and four first round draft picks. 2024’s lineup has guys like Caraway, Turley, Hainline batting 5-9. This lineup will probably, statistically, put up better offensive numbers than 2018. No! The team is batting .353 % after 4 games against sub par competition in optimal hitting condition. The 2018 team hit 321% for the season and 310% in league play. While I can't swear by it, seems I remember the team batting average being over 400 after the first week in Surprise a couple of years. I specifically remember Larnach at 729% to start the season after 4 games in Surprise. Do I like this team...Hell yes. Sure not ready to proclaim them the greatest. This next week will give us a better indication. |
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Post by irimi on Feb 19, 2024 21:11:09 GMT -8
Is this the best lineup the Beavs have ever had? 2018 will be tough to beat, no doubt. College World Series and four first round draft picks. 2024’s lineup has guys like Caraway, Turley, Hainline batting 5-9. This lineup will probably, statistically, put up better offensive numbers than 2018. No! The team is batting .353 % after 4 games against sub par competition in optimal hitting condition. The 2018 team hit 321% for the season and 310% in league play. While I can't swear by it, seems I remember the team batting average being over 400 after the first week in Surprise a couple of years. I specifically remember Larnach at 729% to start the season after 4 games in Surprise. Do I like this team...Hell yes. Sure not ready to proclaim them the greatest. This next week will give us a better indication. The problem that I have with this comparison is that the Casey teams were different from Canham's teams. Casey really seemed to embrace the small ball. I don't think we had a lot of power on any of his teams. We had guys with great control in the box and guys who knew how to draw a walk. The batting discipline was beautiful. We had generally about 3 guys who could routinely hit a homer.
But this team is different. We're seeing home runs from everybody, up and down the lineup. It's a different philosophy and a different team as a result.
I loved the small ball that Casey preached. I loved the fielding, the smoothness of the machine. I loved the bunting and the walks. So yeah, this is different. It's also kind of addictive because the home runs are exciting. But it's different.
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Post by epbeav on Feb 19, 2024 21:28:57 GMT -8
I am as impressed and optimistic about this team as the rest of you. But there is another thing that's different about this team. They strike out alot. Almost 10 Ks per game so far. That number could definitely go up when conference play starts. The balancing act of swinging for power and swinging and missing. Hoping for a good outcome for that balancing act.
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Post by rgeorge on Feb 19, 2024 21:40:07 GMT -8
No! The team is batting .353 % after 4 games against sub par competition in optimal hitting condition. The 2018 team hit 321% for the season and 310% in league play. While I can't swear by it, seems I remember the team batting average being over 400 after the first week in Surprise a couple of years. I specifically remember Larnach at 729% to start the season after 4 games in Surprise. Do I like this team...Hell yes. Sure not ready to proclaim them the greatest. This next week will give us a better indication. The problem that I have with this comparison is that the Casey teams were different from Canham's teams. Casey really seemed to embrace the small ball. I don't think we had a lot of power on any of his teams. We had guys with great control in the box and guys who knew how to draw a walk. The batting discipline was beautiful. We had generally about 3 guys who could routinely hit a homer.
But this team is different. We're seeing home runs from everybody, up and down the lineup. It's a different philosophy and a different team as a result.
I loved the small ball that Casey preached. I loved the fielding, the smoothness of the machine. I loved the bunting and the walks. So yeah, this is different. It's also kind of addictive because the home runs are exciting. But it's different.
Yeah... and one team actually played 68 games. Actual results. Not potential... which I heard was a "negative" term somewhere?! Anyway, 2024 could be just like 20?? Who knows? But, 4 games vs 3 opponents who won a total of like 62 games isn't really a great start to any comparison, to any team. |
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Post by rgeorge on Feb 19, 2024 21:48:28 GMT -8
I am as impressed and optimistic about this team as the rest of you. But there is another thing that's different about this team. They strike out alot. Almost 10 Ks per game so far. That number could definitely go up when conference play starts. The balancing act of swinging for power and swinging and missing. Hoping for a good outcome for that balancing act. As we all know Pac12 play is a bit different in many regards. 2023 team hit 33 pts lower, average 1+ HR but over 9 Ks per game in Pac12 play. The 8 games vs N. Dakota St, & CSUN will be great for the win column and NC stats. Not so much prepping for conference play. At least the 4 games in Texas will help. Hopefully OSU can garner an invite next year. |
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