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Post by abureid on Feb 2, 2024 21:04:02 GMT -8
Turley the dude can hit a s%#t pot of bombs with only incidental contact.
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Post by easyheat on Feb 2, 2024 22:37:11 GMT -8
Bazz has been working on launch angle for a natural conversion to more lift.
Given his zone and contact acumen, would it be possible for him to hit more Dingers than Turley or Guerra ?
Worth watching for sure.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Feb 2, 2024 23:37:07 GMT -8
Bazz has been working on launch angle for a natural conversion to more lift. Given his zone and contact acumen, would it be possible for him to hit more Dingers than Turley or Guerra ? Worth watching for sure. Anything is possible, hard to deny that easy power. Im certain I've put more effort into an unexpected fart than Turley shows on some of those swings. |
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Post by irimi on Feb 3, 2024 8:33:09 GMT -8
Bazz has been working on launch angle for a natural conversion to more lift. Given his zone and contact acumen, would it be possible for him to hit more Dingers than Turley or Guerra ? Worth watching for sure. With so many guys on the team who are able to launch one, I think Bazz is going to focus on getting on base where he can break the pitcher's concentration. When he's feeling it like he was at the end of last year, he's going to drive the pitchers wild.
I'm sure he wants to show the Bigs that he can hit the dinger, too, but if I were coach, I want him on base.
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Post by beavaristotle on Feb 3, 2024 10:59:20 GMT -8
Turley hit 14 bombs in 149 at bats. If he had played all season in 2023 and kept hitting at that clip, he would have hit 22, breaking Jim Wilson's record of 21. Larnach had 253 at bats in 2018. If Turley kept hitting like he did in 2023, he would have hit 24 home runs in 253 at bats. The post-2000 Pac-10/12 record for home runs is Arizona State's Spencer Torkelson's 25 in 2018. As long as he does not suffer a huge sophomore slump, Turley should not be seriously challenged for the 2024 home run crown. And, if he is, Oregon State's offense may be pretty close to unstoppable. even deeper dive. Turley struck out 60 times in those 149 at bats. Of the 89 balls he put in play 14 left the yard or every 6.3 balls in play is a home run. If he could cut his strike outs in half which is not that big of an ask. ( he doesn’t that often swing and miss at strikes so it’s mostly control of the strike zone and getting count leverage) those 30 balls on play would produce 5-6 more home runs. Putting him at 19-20 homers for 149 at bats. Now give him 250 at bats and see what the number is. YIKES |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Feb 3, 2024 14:45:26 GMT -8
Bazz has been working on launch angle for a natural conversion to more lift. Given his zone and contact acumen, would it be possible for him to hit more Dingers than Turley or Guerra ? Worth watching for sure. With so many guys on the team who are able to launch one, I think Bazz is going to focus on getting on base where he can break the pitcher's concentration. When he's feeling it like he was at the end of last year, he's going to drive the pitchers wild.
I'm sure he wants to show the Bigs that he can hit the dinger, too, but if I were coach, I want him on base.
Agreed.....and now the whole country knows who he is, which gives him even more rent free space in opposing pitchers' heads. |
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Post by irimi on Feb 3, 2024 15:42:40 GMT -8
With so many guys on the team who are able to launch one, I think Bazz is going to focus on getting on base where he can break the pitcher's concentration. When he's feeling it like he was at the end of last year, he's going to drive the pitchers wild.
I'm sure he wants to show the Bigs that he can hit the dinger, too, but if I were coach, I want him on base.
Agreed.....and now the whole country knows who he is, which gives him even more rent free space in opposing pitchers' heads. So much of baseball is psychological. |
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Post by easyheat on Feb 3, 2024 16:16:27 GMT -8
Assumption: A HR swing on a strike somehow reduces your OBP as opposed to a single or double swing. Is that valid?
Beaver home runs most often come with a good swing on a strike and don't differ from any other swing. A HR and a hard hit single result from timed up barrel contact, and the difference is point of contact in relationship to the body (EX: out front to maximize pull side power), hand speed, exit velocity and launch angle.
A hard hit ball's trajectory can be on a line resulting in a single or double, or in the air which can result in a home run. One does not exist at the expense of the other.
Make the Madrigal - Bazzana comparison. Fundamentally, two different hitters. Nick was a high contact, slap it all over the yard hitter. Travis has power in the tank that scouts think could result in 25-30 dingers a year in MLB. If the Rockies draft him at #3, make that 30-35 dingers in mile-high Denver.
If Bazzana's HR production bumps up this year, it will not be at the expense of his OBP. He will just be converting some of those singe/double swings into home runs.
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Post by ag87 on Feb 3, 2024 18:10:38 GMT -8
Agreed.....and now the whole country knows who he is, which gives him even more rent free space in opposing pitchers' heads. So much of baseball is psychological. and the other half is in your head? |
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Post by cake on Feb 3, 2024 18:12:19 GMT -8
Assumption: A HR swing on a strike somehow reduces your OBP as opposed to a single or double swing. Is that valid? Beaver home runs most often come with a good swing on a strike and don't differ from any other swing. A HR and a hard hit single result from timed up barrel contact, and the difference is point of contact in relationship to the body (EX: out front to maximize pull side power), hand speed, exit velocity and launch angle. A hard hit ball's trajectory can be on a line resulting in a single or double, or in the air which can result in a home run. One does not exist at the expense of the other. Make the Madrigal - Bazzana comparison. Fundamentally, two different hitters. Nick was a high contact, slap it all over the yard hitter. Travis has power in the tank that scouts think could result in 25-30 dingers a year in MLB. If the Rockies draft him at #3, make that 30-35 dingers in mile-high Denver. If Bazzana's HR production bumps up this year, it will not be at the expense of his OBP. He will just be converting some of those singe/double swings into home runs. I get what you're saying, and I think Travis is an incredible prospect. But the best launch angle for a base hit is somewhere around 15 to 18 degrees. That produces the highest batting average. The best launch angle for a home run is somewhere around 30 degrees. Most bombs. Cool. But there's a tradeoff, a better home run launch angle results in fewer hits, so a lower on base percentage results. We can talk about weighted OBP or whatever, maybe that makes that tradeoff is worth it? Sure, I'd probably agree. But higher average launch angles do result in lower batting averages in general. Therefore, lower on base percentages. And of course that doesn't mean he won't hit for a higher average this year than last year because he worked his ass off to improve. Either way, we're gonna clown some teams. |
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Post by abureid on Feb 4, 2024 14:23:48 GMT -8
Batting order has a lot to do with it. If Turley is followed by Kaspar or Mason, he is getting a bunch more hittable balls. If he is the protection for someone else, then it’s a different ball game. He is also one of the few with the easy swinging power and blazing speed to be a dangerous lead off hitter. But lead off will drop his HR production and probably his BA since 1/4 of his ABs will be the first AB of the game. Whoever follows Bazanna will get a distracted pitcher 50% of his ABs.
Bazz, Gavin, Mason, Trent, Brady, Hainline in whatever order is one of the better top 6 we have seen, and the order they bat will add/subtract to their offensive numbers.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Feb 4, 2024 15:03:32 GMT -8
Let's say everyone is batting 300+ with power. Does protection apply when you can't risk walking anyone?
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Post by whocares on Feb 4, 2024 15:45:06 GMT -8
Let's say everyone is batting 300+ with power. Does protection apply when you can't risk walking anyone? Seems like I've been told that protection is always important. And yes, that's what she said. |
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Post by irimi on Feb 4, 2024 15:58:06 GMT -8
Batting order has a lot to do with it. If Turley is followed by Kaspar or Mason, he is getting a bunch more hittable balls. If he is the protection for someone else, then it’s a different ball game. He is also one of the few with the easy swinging power and blazing speed to be a dangerous lead off hitter. But lead off will drop his HR production and probably his BA since 1/4 of his ABs will be the first AB of the game. Whoever follows Bazanna will get a distracted pitcher 50% of his ABs. Bazz, Gavin, Mason, Trent, Brady, Hainline in whatever order is one of the better top 6 we have seen, and the order they bat will add/subtract to their offensive numbers. 2 of these six are new to the team, so we hope they can produce. But you left off McDowell who had a breakout year last year. |
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Post by irimi on Feb 4, 2024 16:12:46 GMT -8
Let's say everyone is batting 300+ with power. Does protection apply when you can't risk walking anyone? I think so. I think it can be a factor mentally. The pitcher knows who is coming up next, so it is added pressure. And look back at Adley’s last year with us. He was intentionally walked frequently because he had no one behind him to protect him. If we have six batters hammering the ball, how Canham arranges his lineup will be interesting. I am skeptical, though. We rarely get all the cylinders going at the same time. |
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