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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Jan 28, 2024 21:59:01 GMT -8
I think OSU will be ok with FT's going forward. OSU's only had 4 games all season where they shot under 70%
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 28, 2024 22:15:54 GMT -8
I think OSU will be ok with FT's going forward. OSU's only had 4 games all season where they shot under 70% Shooting FTs will not be their issue.
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Post by beaverinohio on Jan 29, 2024 13:18:29 GMT -8
Well... the downside to a 13 pt home win... - when is OSU going to shoot 49 FTs again? And get 29 points from the line? Yeah 20 misses! Many were because of the situation but... - will ASU shoot 3/26 from 3 at home? They took 20 more shots, mostly due to the late foul strategy. Such a weird season... About 20 of those came after we had built a 18-20 point lead and Hurley continued to foul. If they just play straight-up defense instead of hackball, we shhot 29 free throws, still win by 15-20 and everyone goes home 20 minutes earlier. MacLean was getting pretty disgusted by Hurley's approach in the final 5-10 minutes. But Hurley's a dick. Dick coaches do dick things. Glad we kicked his ass back to Tempe. Heard Hurley might be on his way out. Early money is on Musselman.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 29, 2024 13:20:38 GMT -8
About 20 of those came after we had built a 18-20 point lead and Hurley continued to foul. If they just play straight-up defense instead of hackball, we shhot 29 free throws, still win by 15-20 and everyone goes home 20 minutes earlier. MacLean was getting pretty disgusted by Hurley's approach in the final 5-10 minutes. But Hurley's a dick. Dick coaches do dick things. Glad we kicked his ass back to Tempe. Heard Hurley might be on his way out. Early money is on Musselman. He's not having a great year at Arkansas, but why would ASU be a step up?
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 29, 2024 13:49:11 GMT -8
Heard Hurley might be on his way out. Early money is on Musselman. He's not having a great year at Arkansas, but why would ASU be a step up? And, not a person who delves into researching coaches/hires, but if you hired Hurley why not go to Alford over Musselman??
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Post by beaverinohio on Jan 29, 2024 14:40:59 GMT -8
Heard Hurley might be on his way out. Early money is on Musselman. He's not having a great year at Arkansas, but why would ASU be a step up? Not sure it would be necessarily. It would be more lateral it seems as long as ASU wants to spend some of its new media rights revenue because I think he makes twice as much as Hurley. He does have reputation of being somewhat difficult. Not sure he’s had a season at Arkansas without at least one assistant changing — and don’t think any left for head jobs. Might just be time for him to move on. And probably time for a change at ASU too. This is Hurley’s ninth year, 3 tourney appearances so far but all three times were in play-in game. Won two of them, but no wins in main bracket. They might want to make a splash with new conferences.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 29, 2024 14:43:36 GMT -8
He's not having a great year at Arkansas, but why would ASU be a step up? Not sure it would be necessarily. It would be more lateral it seems as long as ASU wants to spend some of its new media rights revenue because I think he makes twice as much as Hurley. He does have reputation of being somewhat difficult. Not sure he’s had a season at Arkansas without at least one assistant changing — and don’t think any left for head jobs. Might just be time for him to move on. And probably time for a change at ASU too. This is Hurley’s ninth year, 3 tourney appearances so far but all three times were in play-in game. Won two of them, but no wins in main bracket. They might want to make a splash with new conferences. If I was ASU, I would go after Bryce Drew......He's already right in their backyard.
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Post by beaverinohio on Jan 29, 2024 14:57:01 GMT -8
He's not having a great year at Arkansas, but why would ASU be a step up? And, not a person who delves into researching coaches/hires, but if you hired Hurley why not go to Alford over Musselman?? Not really understanding your logic? As long as they’re ready to pony up, Musselman is much “sexier” hire than Alford despite the current down year of the former. Six straight tourney appearances, with two E8 and a S16 at Ark and a S16 at Nevada. Alford has only one appearance while at Nevada — a First Four game last year in which ASU blew them out. So unless he has a big tourney run this year, doubt fan base would be excited about Alford with that big loss and his prior “failings” in its old conference.
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Post by beaverinohio on Jan 29, 2024 15:08:38 GMT -8
Not sure it would be necessarily. It would be more lateral it seems as long as ASU wants to spend some of its new media rights revenue because I think he makes twice as much as Hurley. He does have reputation of being somewhat difficult. Not sure he’s had a season at Arkansas without at least one assistant changing — and don’t think any left for head jobs. Might just be time for him to move on. And probably time for a change at ASU too. This is Hurley’s ninth year, 3 tourney appearances so far but all three times were in play-in game. Won two of them, but no wins in main bracket. They might want to make a splash with new conferences. If I was ASU, I would go after Bryce Drew......He's already right in their backyard. I like Drew, but have a feeling with the conference move (and I’m assuming more revenue), they’ll want to make a bigger splash. Musselman’s resume dwarves Drew’s, though maybe Muss’s bad current year might give them pause. Actually saw Bryce’s name in article on potential DePaul candidates. He’d be a great get for them with his Midwest roots. Not sure if he’d be interested though.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 29, 2024 15:21:57 GMT -8
If I was ASU, I would go after Bryce Drew......He's already right in their backyard. I like Drew, but have a feeling with the conference move (and I’m assuming more revenue), they’ll want to make a bigger splash. Musselman’s resume dwarves Drew’s, though maybe Muss’s bad current year might give them pause. Actually saw Bryce’s name in article on potential DePaul candidates. He’d be a great get for them with his Midwest roots. Not sure if he’d be interested though. DePaul has been a coaching graveyard.....I would think twice before I took that job.
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Post by beaverinohio on Jan 29, 2024 15:55:05 GMT -8
I like Drew, but have a feeling with the conference move (and I’m assuming more revenue), they’ll want to make a bigger splash. Musselman’s resume dwarves Drew’s, though maybe Muss’s bad current year might give them pause. Actually saw Bryce’s name in article on potential DePaul candidates. He’d be a great get for them with his Midwest roots. Not sure if he’d be interested though. DePaul has been a coaching graveyard.....I would think twice before I took that job. Definitely agree. Tough gig. Very little NIL. Off campus arena. I’d guess he’d get a pretty decent raise — think Stubbs was getting about $1.5M per. I believe they announce last year plans to build a new on campus bball practice facility, but I think that is at least a couple years away.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 29, 2024 17:22:10 GMT -8
And, not a person who delves into researching coaches/hires, but if you hired Hurley why not go to Alford over Musselman?? Not really understanding your logic? As long as they’re ready to pony up, Musselman is much “sexier” hire than Alford despite the current down year of the former. Six straight tourney appearances, with two E8 and a S16 at Ark and a S16 at Nevada. Alford has only one appearance while at Nevada — a First Four game last year in which ASU blew them out. So unless he has a big tourney run this year, doubt fan base would be excited about Alford with that big loss and his prior “failings” in its old conference. Well, the ASU fan base isn't excited about much. And, I'm not sure there's much logic in coaching hires these days?! But, EM will want bigger money (makes $4.25mil or so now) and is a vagabond. He's has at least 16 stops, including ASU, and will head back to the NBA any chance he can. If I'm a college looking wouldn't touch the guy unless his buyout equaled his salary owed.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Jan 29, 2024 17:50:14 GMT -8
I think OSU will be ok with FT's going forward. OSU's only had 4 games all season where they shot under 70% Shooting FTs will not be their issue. If there's one thing WT teams have been good at in his 10 years without much disagreement, it's shooting free throws. A big part of why the Elite 8 team happened. Always at or near the top of the conference in FT %.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 29, 2024 21:20:08 GMT -8
Shooting FTs will not be their issue. If there's one thing WT teams have been good at in his 10 years without much disagreement, it's shooting free throws. A big part of why the Elite 8 team happened. Always at or near the top of the conference in FT %. Oregon State's free throw shooting by year: 2018-19 .742 3 2019-20 .751 1 2020-21 .762 3 2021-22 .709 7 2022-23 .753 1 2023-24 .729 4
It should come as no surprise that Oregon State's 2021 Elite Eight run came in the Beavers' best free throw shooting season in at least the past 70 years.
It should also come come as no surprise that Oregon State's loss to Houston was in the Beavers' worst quartile of free throw shooting in 2020-21.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Jan 30, 2024 1:01:11 GMT -8
If there's one thing WT teams have been good at in his 10 years without much disagreement, it's shooting free throws. A big part of why the Elite 8 team happened. Always at or near the top of the conference in FT %. Oregon State's free throw shooting by year: 2018-19 .742 3 2019-20 .751 1 2020-21 .762 3 2021-22 .709 7 2022-23 .753 1 2023-24 .729 4
It should come as no surprise that Oregon State's 2021 Elite Eight run came in the Beavers' best free throw shooting season in at least the past 70 years.
It should also come come as no surprise that Oregon State's loss to Houston was in the Beavers' worst quartile of free throw shooting in 2020-21. 11/20 on free throws after 18/20 against Loyola and 32/35 against OkSt. That and giving up 19 offensive rebounds when we held Houston to 32% from the floor. What could've been. Baylor would've steam rolled us but they were on another level entirely that year.
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