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Post by zzufrevaeb on Jan 21, 2024 9:34:14 GMT -8
I followed the WT hire. He was the last man standing to take a job nobody else wanted. Current UW coach Mike Hopkins was a finalist. He's gonna get fired at UW, how would he have done at OSU? Eric Musselman was also a final candidate. Does anybody think he actually considered taking the job? Hell no. He was smart and waited. He loves Arkansas. I don't think a lot of people liked the WT hire from the onset. That displeasure slowly grew until it hit a flashpoint on Jan 14 2021 when the Beavers were routed by Arizona 98-64. This was the moment of validation, some said the Beavers wouldn't win another game the rest of the season, now is the time: Fire Him. Fair enough. WT got his chance. Time to move on. What happened next was the most improbable series of events that shook the CBB world: the Beaver team galvanized and shocked the conference by winning the Pac12 MBB tournament, thus getting an invite to March Madness. The WT doubters were stunned but not silenced. "Beavers got lucky by UCLA missing a free throw." That theme still lives. The thought process was: "The Beavers will get bounced outta the NCAA and we can still fire him." Cue up the magical Cinderella run that nobody could have predicted. It was devine. The march to the Elite 8 both silenced the doubters and proved them wrong. It embarrassed them, esp on social media and chat boards. That embarrassment was magnified because they were forced to endure the Pac12 championship and the NCAA run and couldn't root for the Beavers because it proved them wrong. That embarrassment lives today and it explains the angst. It is time to fire WT. Let's get on with it so all the naysayers can say: "I told you so". When he does get fired, I will look forward to hiring a new coach but I will also say thank you for the greatest season in modern day OSU MBB history. It's the best I've ever felt about Beaver basketball. Get on with it. When I read the headline, I believed it. Orange Army lost it's moron.
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Post by beaverology on Jan 21, 2024 9:38:26 GMT -8
I think I just described BeaverFuzz with a direct hit.
If it's a truth bomb that hits so close, at least it's accurate.
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Jan 21, 2024 9:40:25 GMT -8
If it's a truth bomb that hits too close, at least it's accurate. Yes, the truth that any momentum from the glorious one month run was shat on, pissed on, puked on, run over, left out in the cold, and sold for scrap by Wayne sTinkle. No other program in the country would have held onto as bad of a coach for this long. Which happens first, a third member joins the Orange Army message board or Wayne is removed from this job?
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Post by beaverology on Jan 21, 2024 9:41:54 GMT -8
It was a mistake to extend WT that long with that kind of money. Most will agree on that.
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Jan 21, 2024 9:42:56 GMT -8
It was a mistake to extend WT that long with that kind of money. Most will agree on that. Most? Who's the holdout, the second member of the Orange Army message board?
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Post by beaverology on Jan 21, 2024 9:46:22 GMT -8
What if this job is so BAD, he's the best we can do? You can laugh, but the OSU MBB job got much worse with the advent of the NIL and transporter, for WT and the next Beaver coach. How do you keep the diamonds in the rough that OSU coaching develops?
And before you refernce WSU and Kyle Smith, the WSU program has separated itself from its running mate, OSU. And Kyle Smith is a very good coach and he never would have taken the OSU job.
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Jan 21, 2024 9:49:12 GMT -8
What if this job is so BAD, he's the best we can do? You can laugh, but the OSU MBB job got much worse with the advent of the NIL and transporter, for WT and the next Beaver coach. How do you keep the diamonds in the rough that OSU coaching develops? Ralph Miller's ashes would do a better job than Wayne right now. What diamonds in the rough, there aren't any. If you say "Drew Eubanks", you've clearly not watched any of his games for OSU...Pop and company took 2+ years to get him out of the bad habits Wayne taught him and now he's a serviceable NBA player.
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Post by beaverology on Jan 21, 2024 9:51:11 GMT -8
Drew Eubanks Stevie and Ethan Warith Alatishe Jarod Lucas Glenn Taylor Jr Jordan Pope Tyler B
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 21, 2024 10:04:21 GMT -8
It is hard for me to understand why people continue to hold onto the elite 8 run as if it shows his coaching prowess. As great as those few weeks were it was strictly an aberration of his coaching ability. Wilky will surely have some reply to this, but it was just one of those sporting anomalies. Happens and why you play the games. I see it as just that special circumstances from Zona being ineligible changing the Pac12 tourney, on. Each and every game in the 6-1 postseason run OSU had players contribute that hadn't or were spectacularly inconsistent all season. Happens, but it wasn't due to coaching and some new strategies. But, those that focus on the outcome want to ignore the process. A program supposedly on the "rise" would have benefited from such circumstances. OSU? Nope, off into a prolonged slide and not do to a previous excuse... injuries. Nope... players leaving, graduating & transfers, and no recruiting. No depth. A program with a solid coach would have been able to sustain at least a decent level of conference play, maybe NIT level postseason? But, nope. Also two other Pac12 teams made that E8, SC & UCLA. UCLA on to the F4. And both followed up with some solid seasons: UCLA 27-6/15-5 ; 31-6/18-2 SC 26-8/14-6 ; 22-11/14-6 OSU 3-28/1-19 ; 11-21/5-15 If course those are LA schools, automatic better recruiting (coaching). But, how about EVERY conference team had a better two years post that E8 than OSU?! Even lowly Cal... 12-20/5-15 ; 3-29/2-18 And, here we are into the 3rd season post-anomaly with an opportunity to "catch" Cal for only having the 11th worst Pac12 record since the E8!
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 21, 2024 10:10:17 GMT -8
I followed the WT hire. He was the last man standing to take a job nobody else wanted. Current UW coach Mike Hopkins was a finalist. He's gonna get fired at UW, how would he have done at OSU? Eric Musselman was also a final candidate. Does anybody think he actually considered taking the job? Hell no. He was smart and waited. He loves Arkansas. I don't think a lot of people liked the WT hire from the onset. That displeasure slowly grew until it hit a flashpoint on Jan 14 2021 when the Beavers were routed by Arizona 98-64. This was the moment of validation, some said the Beavers wouldn't win another game the rest of the season, now is the time: Fire Him. Fair enough. WT got his chance. Time to move on. What happened next was the most improbable series of events that shook the CBB world: the Beaver team galvanized and shocked the conference by winning the Pac12 MBB tournament, thus getting an invite to March Madness. The WT doubters were stunned but not silenced. "Beavers got lucky by UCLA missing a free throw." That theme still lives. The thought process was: "The Beavers will get bounced outta the NCAA and we can still fire him." Cue up the magical Cinderella run that nobody could have predicted. It was devine. The march to the Elite 8 both silenced the doubters and proved them wrong. It embarrassed them, esp on social media and chat boards. That embarrassment was magnified because they were forced to endure the Pac12 championship and the NCAA run and couldn't root for the Beavers because it proved them wrong. That embarrassment lives today and it explains the angst. It is time to fire WT. Let's get on with it so all the naysayers can say: "I told you so". When he does get fired, I will look forward to hiring a new coach but I will also say thank you for the greatest season in modern day OSU MBB history. It's the best I've ever felt about Beaver basketball. Get on with it. When I read the headline, I believed it. Followed it closely? From what 35,000 feet? Do you ever get tired of making stuff up? WT wasn't the last man. There were several reasons other candidates didn't accept, and it wasn't the program. Please begin to grow up. Learn how to state an opinion vs stating garbage as fact. You litter this board with so much false info you have to be a troll seeking attention you don't get elsewhere. PS- to accentuate your overall cluelessness maybe take a look at the recruits a Hopkins brought in at UW. WT could only dream if that. And whether he gets fired at UW only makes the WT issue stronger since he has a far superior tenure.
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Post by zeroposter on Jan 21, 2024 10:16:15 GMT -8
It would be nice to find some words of encouragement and text the coach. He has to feel battered after the 27 point beatdown in Salt Lake followed by a 33 point blowout in Boulder today. No OSU coach should have to endure those kind of losses. Maybe he needs to look in the mirror. Easyheat was being sarcastic.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 21, 2024 10:23:09 GMT -8
It is hard for me to understand why people continue to hold onto the elite 8 run as if it shows his coaching prowess. As great as those few weeks were it was strictly an aberration of his coaching ability. Wilky will surely have some reply to this, but it was just one of those sporting anomalies. Happens and why you play the games. I see it as just that special circumstances from Zona being ineligible changing the Pac12 tourney, on. Each and every game in the 6-1 postseason run OSU had players contribute that hadn't or were spectacularly inconsistent all season. Happens, but it wasn't due to coaching and some new strategies. But, those that focus on the outcome want to ignore the process. A program supposedly on the "rise" would have benefited from such circumstances. OSU? Nope, off into a prolonged slide and not do to a previous excuse... injuries. Nope... players leaving, graduating & transfers, and no recruiting. No depth. A program with a solid coach would have been able to sustain at least a decent level of conference play, maybe NIT level postseason? But, nope. Also two other Pac12 teams made that E8, SC & UCLA. UCLA on to the F4. And both followed up with some solid seasons: UCLA 27-6/15-5 ; 31-6/18-2 SC 26-8/14-6 ; 22-11/14-6 OSU 3-28/1-19 ; 11-21/5-15 If course those are LA schools, automatic better recruiting (coaching). But, how about EVERY conference team had a better two years post that E8 than OSU?! Even lowly Cal... 12-20/5-15 ; 3-29/2-18 And, here we are into the 3rd season post-anomaly with an opportunity to "catch" Cal for only having the 11th worst Pac12 record since the E8! Comparing Oregon State's basketball's situation to the situation of UCLA and USC is always a winner. Why, oh why, can't we do what UCLA and USC do in basketball? Outside of the Pac-12 Tournament run, I would say that Oregon State benefited in the Tournament from the refs not randomly swallowing their whistle like in the Pac-12. The refs in the Pac-12 seem to be a lot more "let them play" than most of the other conferences, but it seems to be wildly inconsistent. I would like to see what Tinkle's Oregon State can do in a different conference, because I believe that the Beavers benefit from the refs being more consistent with the foul calls.
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Post by TheGlove on Jan 21, 2024 10:24:35 GMT -8
Would be a great headline to read tomorrow tomorrow? I'd take today. Scott Barnes met the team on the tarmac at Mahlon Sweet at 1 AM today and relieved Tinkle on the spot. Interim coach is Eric Reveno.
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Post by TheGlove on Jan 21, 2024 10:27:12 GMT -8
I followed the WT hire. He was the last man standing to take a job nobody else wanted. Current UW coach Mike Hopkins was a finalist. He's gonna get fired at UW, how would he have done at OSU? Eric Musselman was also a final candidate. Does anybody think he actually considered taking the job? Hell no. He was smart and waited. He loves Arkansas. I don't think a lot of people liked the WT hire from the onset. That displeasure slowly grew until it hit a flashpoint on Jan 14 2021 when the Beavers were routed by Arizona 98-64. This was the moment of validation, some said the Beavers wouldn't win another game the rest of the season, now is the time: Fire Him. Fair enough. WT got his chance. Time to move on. What happened next was the most improbable series of events that shook the CBB world: the Beaver team galvanized and shocked the conference by winning the Pac12 MBB tournament, thus getting an invite to March Madness. The WT doubters were stunned but not silenced. "Beavers got lucky by UCLA missing a free throw." That theme still lives. The thought process was: "The Beavers will get bounced outta the NCAA and we can still fire him." Cue up the magical Cinderella run that nobody could have predicted. It was devine. The march to the Elite 8 both silenced the doubters and proved them wrong. It embarrassed them, esp on social media and chat boards. That embarrassment was magnified because they were forced to endure the Pac12 championship and the NCAA run and couldn't root for the Beavers because it proved them wrong. That embarrassment lives today and it explains the angst. It is time to fire WT. Let's get on with it so all the naysayers can say: "I told you so". When he does get fired, I will look forward to hiring a new coach but I will also say thank you for the greatest season in modern day OSU MBB history. It's the best I've ever felt about Beaver basketball. Get on with it. When I read the headline, I believed it. Can I get a TL;DR? Ain’t no way I’m reading that wall of text.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 21, 2024 10:31:27 GMT -8
It would be nice to find some words of encouragement and text the coach. He has to feel battered after the 27 point beatdown in Salt Lake followed by a 33 point blowout in Boulder today. No OSU coach should have to endure those kind of losses. He has his supporters I’ve long suspected that one of them is…..Beaverology.
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