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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 20, 2024 9:49:09 GMT -8
The On3 numbers aren't legit or useful. They were never factored into the equation. So, you’re admitting that the ones you provided were pulled out of your ass. Got it. |
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Post by beaverology on Jan 20, 2024 9:58:55 GMT -8
I think the $13M deal between Rashada and the Florida NIL collective has not only destroyed my opposition's arguments, but proven my case.
No amount of name calling or slurs will change this.
The defense rests.
I'm off to the gym.
As always, Go Beavs!!!
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jan 20, 2024 10:11:04 GMT -8
I see smails and george are in here making lots of friends, as per usual
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Post by bdc101 on Jan 20, 2024 10:55:53 GMT -8
I've read that Uncle Phil has spent around a billion dollars on doink sports in the past 20-25 years (estimate), or roughly $50 million a year.
And now that he can just go and buy the players instead of buying stupid facilities to convince the players to come, Judge Smalls and rgeorge think that it was unlikely that he spent $12 million dollars for one signing class.
OK
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 20, 2024 11:21:47 GMT -8
I think the $13M deal between Rashada and the Florida NIL collective has not only destroyed my opposition's arguments, but proven my case. No amount of name calling or slurs will change this. The defense rests. I'm off to the gym. As always, Go Beavs!!! Yes, you got me by posting a deal that never happened. I promised a guy $50 million to come here, so there’s more proof for you. Unfortunately, the player wouldn’t take a post-dated, out of state, third-party check. 😆 |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 20, 2024 11:23:05 GMT -8
I see smails and george are in here making lots of friends, as per usual I see you’re still reading posts from posters you claim to ignore. |
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 20, 2024 11:35:16 GMT -8
I've read that Uncle Phil has spent around a billion dollars on doink sports in the past 20-25 years (estimate), or roughly $50 million a year. And now that he can just go and buy the players instead of buying stupid facilities to convince the players to come, Judge Smalls and rgeorge think that it was unlikely that he spent $12 million dollars for one signing class. OK Then you read wrong or joined your friend in making up BS. Knights' largest donations are to academics and dwarf athletic donations. At Oregon, other academic institutions, health care, and community organizations the vast number of $ are not to athletics. Pretty easy to document. Try it sometime. Here is just one excerpt from one of hundreds of articles: "...most of Knight’s big-ticket donations have headed to health care facilities, academic institutions and political campaigns... Over $2 billion of the the Knight family's fortune has been donated to research, academics and politics in the last two decades... The Knights invested $1 billion into the University of Oregon in two tranches for the Phil and Penny Knight Campus for Accelerated Scientific Impact for bioengineering and applied scientific research and training. Out of the classroom, the Knights have donated hundreds of millions of dollars into a new library, a new law school building, a basketball arena and improvements to Hayward Field and Autzen Stadium..." FFS... anymore BS you and your histrionic buddies want to toss out? |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 20, 2024 11:37:27 GMT -8
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 20, 2024 11:42:43 GMT -8
The player said he was offered that and he agreed to it, but the booster didn’t have the money. So, to use that as an example, when it was never completed, is worthless. |
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 20, 2024 11:52:26 GMT -8
The collective was disbanded and the deal although "signed" was never an actual "deal" as the collective/booster never had the money. It happens more than not, along with poor advice and bad contracts. This NIL situation doesn't prove squat other than 3rd parties are taking advantage of players. Nor does it change the fact that the vast majority of NIL deals aren't for cash and in the 4 figure range. Not to mention exaggerated and misinterpreted... is the use of a $50-70k pickup that is not theirs a $70k NIL deal? |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 20, 2024 11:58:08 GMT -8
I've read that Uncle Phil has spent around a billion dollars on doink sports in the past 20-25 years (estimate), or roughly $50 million a year. And now that he can just go and buy the players instead of buying stupid facilities to convince the players to come, Judge Smalls and rgeorge think that it was unlikely that he spent $12 million dollars for one signing class. OK Then you read wrong or joined your friend in making up BS. Knights' largest donations are to academics and dwarf athletic donations. At Oregon, other academic institutions, health care, and community organizations the vast number of $ are not to athletics. Pretty easy to document. Try it sometime. Here is just one excerpt from one of hundreds of articles: "...most of Knight’s big-ticket donations have headed to health care facilities, academic institutions and political campaigns... Over $2 billion of the the Knight family's fortune has been donated to research, academics and politics in the last two decades... The Knights invested $1 billion into the University of Oregon in two tranches for the Phil and Penny Knight Campus for Accelerated Scientific Impact for bioengineering and applied scientific research and training. Out of the classroom, the Knights have donated hundreds of millions of dollars into a new library, a new law school building, a basketball arena and improvements to Hayward Field and Autzen Stadium..." FFS... anymore BS you and your histrionic buddies want to toss out? There were articles documenting Phi's gifts to uo sports to the tune of a half a billion several years ago, before covid, before the track. The stadium, the locker rooms (a couple times?), the AD complex, the athlete dorm, the grandiose weightroom, the basketball arena. And that's the old stuff I can remember, there's probably more. Who knows how much of the 270 million buck track facility came directly out of Phil's pocket. There were rumors/accusations of direct player money and future job hire involvement by Phil/Nike well before NIL became allowed. Now that NIL is allowed, I don't really care about who donates what to NIL. I didn't really care about all of Phi's previously documented legal donations. I'm kinda envious that we don't have a comparable sugar daddy, them's the breaks. But there's no denying Phil has sent a LOT of dollars the direction of uo athletics, and that billion $ number may not be far off. |
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Post by bdc101 on Jan 20, 2024 11:58:40 GMT -8
I've read that Uncle Phil has spent around a billion dollars on doink sports in the past 20-25 years (estimate), or roughly $50 million a year. And now that he can just go and buy the players instead of buying stupid facilities to convince the players to come, Judge Smalls and rgeorge think that it was unlikely that he spent $12 million dollars for one signing class. OK Then you read wrong or joined your friend in making up BS. Knights' largest donations are to academics and dwarf athletic donations. At Oregon, other academic institutions, health care, and community organizations the vast number of $ are not to athletics. Pretty easy to document. Try it sometime. Here is just one excerpt from one of hundreds of articles: "...most of Knight’s big-ticket donations have headed to health care facilities, academic institutions and political campaigns... Over $2 billion of the the Knight family's fortune has been donated to research, academics and politics in the last two decades... The Knights invested $1 billion into the University of Oregon in two tranches for the Phil and Penny Knight Campus for Accelerated Scientific Impact for bioengineering and applied scientific research and training. Out of the classroom, the Knights have donated hundreds of millions of dollars into a new library, a new law school building, a basketball arena and improvements to Hayward Field and Autzen Stadium..." FFS... anymore BS you and your histrionic buddies want to toss out?https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2021/03/knights-university-of-oregon-donations-push-1-billion-mark-with-new-hayward-field-project.html
"Oregon officials have declined to quantify Knight’s total contributions. They said the list above “does not reflect other giving from the Knights over the years to support faculty and teaching not related to a facility gift.”"
Before the half-billion dollar scientific campus, his academic-side donations to the UO were miniscule in comparison to the athletic side.
Also, Uncle Phil didn't give a penny to the academic side for a period of almost 20 years, after UO students protested Nike sweatshops in the late 90s or early 2000s. Not a cent. It's a recent thing for him to start giving money to the academic side again. During that time he gave a bunch of money for academic purposes at other universities, like Stanford and OHSU, though. OHSU has received over a billion dollars for example, none of it for athletics, obviously.
So is your point that it's unlikely for him to spend $12 million a year on a signing class? I'm still kind of shocked that you are fighting this fight here, sir.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 20, 2024 12:04:11 GMT -8
Then you read wrong or joined your friend in making up BS. Knights' largest donations are to academics and dwarf athletic donations. At Oregon, other academic institutions, health care, and community organizations the vast number of $ are not to athletics. Pretty easy to document. Try it sometime. Here is just one excerpt from one of hundreds of articles: "...most of Knight’s big-ticket donations have headed to health care facilities, academic institutions and political campaigns... Over $2 billion of the the Knight family's fortune has been donated to research, academics and politics in the last two decades... The Knights invested $1 billion into the University of Oregon in two tranches for the Phil and Penny Knight Campus for Accelerated Scientific Impact for bioengineering and applied scientific research and training. Out of the classroom, the Knights have donated hundreds of millions of dollars into a new library, a new law school building, a basketball arena and improvements to Hayward Field and Autzen Stadium..." FFS... anymore BS you and your histrionic buddies want to toss out?https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2021/03/knights-university-of-oregon-donations-push-1-billion-mark-with-new-hayward-field-project.html
"Oregon officials have declined to quantify Knight’s total contributions. They said the list above “does not reflect other giving from the Knights over the years to support faculty and teaching not related to a facility gift.”"
Before the half-billion dollar scientific campus, his academic-side donations to the UO were miniscule in comparison to the athletic side.
Also, Uncle Phil didn't give a penny to the academic side for a period of almost 20 years, after UO students protested Nike sweatshops in the late 90s or early 2000s. Not a cent. It's a recent thing for him to start giving money to the academic side again. During that time he gave a bunch of money for academic purposes at other universities, like Stanford and OHSU, though. OHSU has received over a billion dollars for example, none of it for athletics, obviously.
So is your point that it's unlikely for him to spend $12 million a year on a signing class? I'm still kind of shocked that you are fighting this fight here, sir.
Did you actually read the story you linked? Well over half of the $1 billion went to academic facilities, including $500 million towards the science facility. In addition, he didn’t fully fund the track center or Autzen or tatt court, so your statement that he has donated $1 billion to uo athletics is incorrect. |
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Post by beaverology on Jan 20, 2024 12:08:17 GMT -8
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Post by bdc101 on Jan 20, 2024 12:14:46 GMT -8
Did you actually read the story you linked? Well over half of the $1 billion went to academic facilities, including $500 million towards the science facility. In addition, he didn’t fully fund the track center or Autzen or tatt court, so your statement that he has donated $1 billion to uo athletics is incorrect. "Oregon officials have declined to quantify Knight’s total contributions. They said the list above “does not reflect other giving from the Knights over the years to support faculty and teaching not related to a facility gift.”"
You know Judge, you are a big reason I have taken more than one multiple-year break from this board. The amount of asshattery around here is not really what I expect from beaver fans. I think it's time for another break.
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