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Post by gnawitall on Jan 5, 2024 12:49:17 GMT -8
Saw alot of the word "IF" in the comments. Let's make it simple IF the Beavs scored 8 more points or IF wazoo scored 8 less we would have won by 1. IF both happened we would have won by 9. A 7 point game is literally a 3 shot difference, between two teams. There's a lot of inherent "if" in basketball in single digit wins or losses. This is why taking a shot from deep with no one near the key to rebound, not finding someone to block out every time, standing on offense instead of making your man work to defend you (or move in the zone) etc... can make the difference in wins and losses. Details, details, details... This is why it's hard for me to watch anymore.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 5, 2024 13:54:29 GMT -8
A 7 point game is literally a 3 shot difference, between two teams. There's a lot of inherent "if" in basketball in single digit wins or losses. This is why taking a shot from deep with no one near the key to rebound, not finding someone to block out every time, standing on offense instead of making your man work to defend you (or move in the zone) etc... can make the difference in wins and losses. Details, details, details... This is why it's hard for me to watch anymore. Anyone at or who watched the SC game, and even some of the UCLA contest, the WSU game was a giant step(s) back. Ball movement was essentially nonexistent most of the game. The ball got "stuck" in players' hands, there was no swinging the ball to the opposite side of the court, and a lot of over dribbling. On defense a lot of half hearted footwork, and reaching. Rice is a quick athletic kid, but there were several of his drives where (3) defenders just stood and gave up the lane. Overall it was a game I counted on as a road "W" as WSU was struggling coming off Utah/Buff road losses and there is this talent gap between them and OSU. Giving up 44 second half points was disappointing. After watching every team at least once, this Pac12 is very very unpredictable and while you need to show up every game, it appears every team is capable of lapses of very poor play. However, Buffs with a bunch of key players missing vs Zona, Arizona, Utah, and Oregon clearly seem to be the top of the Pac12. I still think SC and UW will turn it around and be in that next group. ASU... no idea... they are long, athletic, a rough and tumble team that plays with an edge... but, a 3-0 start gives them a huge confidence boost. WSU's style will bother teams, but can't see them breaking into the top 6. I think UCLA will get better, shoot better, and will be a threat, but a mid tier team. I thought Cal and Furd would both be W's, but an 18 point win over Zona erased that thought. Cal seems to be the weak "sister", but... Dropping the UW game to start 1-3 would be a blow. With Furd @ Gill, away @ Utah and Colorado, followed by the Arizona schools at home is scary. UW is an early contest that seems very important now with the WSU loss.
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Post by beaverology on Jan 5, 2024 14:04:02 GMT -8
Anybody who counted the Beavers going to WSU and winning doesn't really understand basketball. We were 12 point underdogs. That was before the last minute scratch with Dexter. WSU is a difficult place to play. All that and IF Tyler and Rataj hit half of those easy shots they missed, we may have won. Take it one game at a time with a young team like this.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 5, 2024 14:49:21 GMT -8
In the past decade, only one Oregon State team has won at home against USC and lost in Pullman. And that was the 2020-21 Elite Eight team. That team started 1-2 in the Pac-12, as well, splitting at home and losing once on the road (to Wazzu). The difference is that the 2020-21 team did not get to overall win number nine until February 4th, beating Washington to get to 5-5 and 9-7 overall.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 5, 2024 14:57:03 GMT -8
Anymore, if it's a road game I'm assuming we'll lose. I'm no "sunshine pumper" when it comes to MBB.
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