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Post by speakthetruth on Jan 2, 2024 21:07:25 GMT -8
Weird that a guy that some beaverfans saw as average and nothing special got two offers already.
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Post by beaverology on Jan 2, 2024 21:10:19 GMT -8
There's no doubt $ilas could start for a lot of teams at WR. His kick return and punt return abilities make him even more marketable. What kinda NIL are we thinking for SiBo: $100,000?
Dam Nation couldn't match $100,000?
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Post by irimi on Jan 2, 2024 21:48:12 GMT -8
Weird that a guy that some beaverfans saw as average and nothing special got two offers already. Oh, come on. Everybody knows that Bolden is special, even though he is small. But we are weary and gun shy from losing many good players. So sorry if we don’t say hooray as he rejects us or get excited when he post pics of his new suitors. As soon as he said goodbye to Beaver Nation, he became the competition. Editing to add that given the unclear future of the Pac, I don’t blame him. That doesn’t mean that I like his decision though. And it certainly doesn’t mean that I won’t root against him, especially if he’s a Trojan.
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Post by grayman on Jan 2, 2024 23:44:58 GMT -8
Nobody likes his decision, but let's be honest, some posters were really minimizing how good he is. I guess USC and Arizona beg to differ.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 3, 2024 0:16:04 GMT -8
Let's be honest. I saw most of the discussion about when he was compared to being more valuable than DM. And that is just silly stuff.
VB is going to get offers its the portal. And I'm guessing mostly because he's versatile. Not too many elite WR want or have a ton of experience as returners.
Zona has 14 returning WR in their roster, 13 are Fr (6), RFr(5), So(2), all 5'11" to 6'5". Some may end up leaving, so pretty young but deep.
SC has about 14 returners with great depth in all classes and lots of size a game experience.
But, he's good not elite. He may want new scenery, good for him. But, he was good at OSU and went from being "the man" to one of the guys.
If one was to guess on either roster does he the targets he got here? The nearly 800 yds?
But, again much of the earlier discussion on VB stemmed from an early comparison that he was more valuable than DM.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jan 3, 2024 6:19:15 GMT -8
Weird that a guy that some beaverfans saw as average and nothing special got two offers already. Oh, come on. Everybody knows that Bolden is special, even though he is small. But we are weary and gun shy from losing many good players. So sorry if we don’t say hooray as he rejects us or get excited when he post pics of his new suitors. As soon as he said goodbye to Beaver Nation, he became the competition. Editing to add that given the unclear future of the Pac, I don’t blame him. That doesn’t mean that I like his decision though. And it certainly doesn’t mean that I won’t root against him, especially if he’s a Trojan. He's only competition if he's in our schedule. If you ain't with us you are against us lol
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Post by atownbeaver on Jan 3, 2024 8:11:59 GMT -8
Weird that a guy that some beaverfans saw as average and nothing special got two offers already. I think the conversation was that overall, he is an average D1 WR and the magnitude of loss wasn't devastating. That doesn't preclude him from going to a team that would use him to his strengths better, which honestly we didn't. He is pretty fast and he is good with the ball in space. I am sure there are dozens of teams that would take him to round out their WR corps, and most like use him in a versatile gadget type roll where he both goes deep or takes fly sweep action runs or tunnel screens. Teams are always happy to add a weapon.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jan 3, 2024 8:22:01 GMT -8
I don't get the negative comments regarding Silas. He was our 1st or 2nd best receiver as I kind of see Gould and him as interchangeable. Yes, he was small so what. At anypoint on the field he could break it for a td. To somehow say well we recruited a 4 star guy that can take his place. Maybe, but probably not. I'd rather rely on a small, quick, fast experienced wide receiver than a receiver with zilch for experience. Yea, I don't get it either. In many games over the last couple seasons he was our best offensive player on the field. The Vegas bowl was the Silas Bolden show. Elite quickness, and elusiveness. People get hung up on his size, and he proved em wrong every time. Run first, and less than stellar QB play, held him back, imo. Yet the narrative is our WR's were too small.....that's why DJU (at times) had a tough time hitting them. I call BS
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jan 3, 2024 8:37:01 GMT -8
Let's be honest. I saw most of the discussion about when he was compared to being more valuable than DM. And that is just silly stuff. VB is going to get offers its the portal. And I'm guessing mostly because he's versatile. Not too many elite WR want or have a ton of experience as returners. Zona has 14 returning WR in their roster, 13 are Fr (6), RFr(5), So(2), all 5'11" to 6'5". Some may end up leaving, so pretty young but deep. SC has about 14 returners with great depth in all classes and lots of size a game experience. But, he's good not elite. He may want new scenery, good for him. But, he was good at OSU and went from being "the man" to one of the guys. If one was to guess on either roster does he the targets he got here? The nearly 800 yds? But, again much of the earlier discussion on VB stemmed from an early comparison that he was more valuable than DM. The reality is you can't compare Bolden to DM. DM is a workhorse RB in a run first O. He will get waaaay more touches than Bolden. DM had around 200 touches and Bolden 60ish. They played different roles. All im saying is at times, and more than just a couple, Bolden was our best offensive player on the field.....his limited touches he did more with than anyone....you could argue Velling on that point as well. And not to take too much from Dame, but he, and Fenwick were almost interchangeable...at times, Fenny was the better back.....a testament to both their talent, and our run first mentality. I just think it's funny that we can't have this discussion without a couple of posters on here trying to belittle. The offers Bolden is getting are based on what we saw on the field. The dude is a baller, and he gets around the corner with the best of em in college football.
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Post by beavs6 on Jan 3, 2024 8:55:35 GMT -8
Weird that a guy that some beaverfans saw as average and nothing special got two offers already. Huh. BIG 10 or BIG 12 I guess...
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 3, 2024 12:09:21 GMT -8
In my book Silas is a great return guy, and a way above average receiever.
He's just short. He can't help that, it doesn't hurt his return production, but probably hurts the perception of him as a receiver, it might hurt some of his production as a receiver on occasion.
I think wherever he goes, he will be the return guy. He may find it more difficult to be a featured receiver, especially at a school like USC that routinely brings in higher profile recruits.
He got 4 years in here, it'd be nice to have him for a 5th but I don't begrudge him testing the waters.
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Post by orangeattack on Jan 3, 2024 12:20:48 GMT -8
Let's be honest. I saw most of the discussion about when he was compared to being more valuable than DM. And that is just silly stuff. VB is going to get offers its the portal. And I'm guessing mostly because he's versatile. Not too many elite WR want or have a ton of experience as returners. Zona has 14 returning WR in their roster, 13 are Fr (6), RFr(5), So(2), all 5'11" to 6'5". Some may end up leaving, so pretty young but deep. SC has about 14 returners with great depth in all classes and lots of size a game experience. But, he's good not elite. He may want new scenery, good for him. But, he was good at OSU and went from being "the man" to one of the guys. If one was to guess on either roster does he the targets he got here? The nearly 800 yds? But, again much of the earlier discussion on VB stemmed from an early comparison that he was more valuable than DM. The reality is you can't compare Bolden to DM. DM is a workhorse RB in a run first O. He will get waaaay more touches than Bolden. DM had around 200 touches and Bolden 60ish. They played different roles. All im saying is at times, and more than just a couple, Bolden was our best offensive player on the field.....his limited touches he did more with than anyone....you could argue Velling on that point as well. And not to take too much from Dame, but he, and Fenwick were almost interchangeable...at times, Fenny was the better back.....a testament to both their talent, and our run first mentality. I just think it's funny that we can't have this discussion without a couple of posters on here trying to belittle. The offers Bolden is getting are based on what we saw on the field. The dude is a baller, and he gets around the corner with the best of em in college football. In boxing, the axiom is "styles make fights". Silas has a style that will win him some fights if he can be in a position to be successful. His ceiling is limited at Oregon State. He did not demand a double team like an elite receiver will. His catch radius was small. He struggled with getting off the jam because of his size. He has elite speed, good to excellent hands, and is a weapon with gadget plays. We didn't run a style of offense that really put Bolden in a position to be successful given his skillset. He excelled anyway, but if you make him an option in an offense that is designed to put players in space, look out.
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Post by jefframp on Jan 3, 2024 12:25:07 GMT -8
Let's be honest. I saw most of the discussion about when he was compared to being more valuable than DM. And that is just silly stuff. VB is going to get offers its the portal. And I'm guessing mostly because he's versatile. Not too many elite WR want or have a ton of experience as returners. Zona has 14 returning WR in their roster, 13 are Fr (6), RFr(5), So(2), all 5'11" to 6'5". Some may end up leaving, so pretty young but deep. SC has about 14 returners with great depth in all classes and lots of size a game experience. But, he's good not elite. He may want new scenery, good for him. But, he was good at OSU and went from being "the man" to one of the guys. If one was to guess on either roster does he the targets he got here? The nearly 800 yds? But, again much of the earlier discussion on VB stemmed from an early comparison that he was more valuable than DM. Who is VB? Are you confusing him with Victor? Or are we discussing VolleyBall?
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 3, 2024 12:27:20 GMT -8
Let's be honest. I saw most of the discussion about when he was compared to being more valuable than DM. And that is just silly stuff. VB is going to get offers its the portal. And I'm guessing mostly because he's versatile. Not too many elite WR want or have a ton of experience as returners. Zona has 14 returning WR in their roster, 13 are Fr (6), RFr(5), So(2), all 5'11" to 6'5". Some may end up leaving, so pretty young but deep. SC has about 14 returners with great depth in all classes and lots of size a game experience. But, he's good not elite. He may want new scenery, good for him. But, he was good at OSU and went from being "the man" to one of the guys. If one was to guess on either roster does he the targets he got here? The nearly 800 yds? But, again much of the earlier discussion on VB stemmed from an early comparison that he was more valuable than DM. Who is VB? Are you confusing him with Victor? Or are we discussing VolleyBall? Not confused just brain fart and no double check to edit!
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jan 3, 2024 12:27:54 GMT -8
The reality is you can't compare Bolden to DM. DM is a workhorse RB in a run first O. He will get waaaay more touches than Bolden. DM had around 200 touches and Bolden 60ish. They played different roles. All im saying is at times, and more than just a couple, Bolden was our best offensive player on the field.....his limited touches he did more with than anyone....you could argue Velling on that point as well. And not to take too much from Dame, but he, and Fenwick were almost interchangeable...at times, Fenny was the better back.....a testament to both their talent, and our run first mentality. I just think it's funny that we can't have this discussion without a couple of posters on here trying to belittle. The offers Bolden is getting are based on what we saw on the field. The dude is a baller, and he gets around the corner with the best of em in college football. In boxing, the axiom is "styles make fights". Silas has a style that will win him some fights if he can be in a position to be successful. His ceiling is limited at Oregon State. He did not demand a double team like an elite receiver will. His catch radius was small. He struggled with getting off the jam because of his size. He has elite speed, good to excellent hands, and is a weapon with gadget plays. We didn't run a style of offense that really put Bolden in a position to be successful given his skillset. He excelled anyway, but if you make him an option in an offense that is designed to put players in space, look out. How many times did he look like he wouldn't get to the edge, but would beat the defender and turn it into a big play? I think he will increase his big play frequency in an offense that gets him the ball more
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