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Post by sparty on Jan 1, 2024 16:34:45 GMT -8
Who knows? One thing for sure - you have to be awake to watch or enjoy the game - unlikely with the current guy  Bwahahahahaha! Well played! |
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 1, 2024 19:47:48 GMT -8
I'd just be curious to know how many "fans" were awake at the start of the 4th Q in this classic barn-burner (not).
Whoever thought that Liberty even belonged on the gridiron?
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Post by jimbeav on Jan 1, 2024 20:00:09 GMT -8
Thats what I am saying . The final score in the Sun Bowl may not show it but Oregon State made Notre Dame earn every point I think the lower tiered schools should in ineligible from New Years Day bowl games regardless of record. I think you will see a have verses have not tier of bowls in the future. Strength of schedule should matter a lot not just the season record. Liberty is a prime example. Um...in case you haven't noticed, we are well on our way to becoming such a lower tier school. The path that Liberty took to get here is the exact path that we are betting our entire athletic department on. |
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 1, 2024 20:11:34 GMT -8
I think the lower tiered schools should in ineligible from New Years Day bowl games regardless of record. I think you will see a have verses have not tier of bowls in the future. Strength of schedule should matter a lot not just the season record. Liberty is a prime example. Um...in case you haven't noticed, we are well on our way to becoming such a lower tier school. The path that Liberty took to get here is the exact path that we are betting our entire athletic department on. If our entire AD was dependent on CFP berths OSU would be in trouble. But, next year and after is no different than years past... CFP $ go to the conference and OSU has survived with one berth (this is the 2nd) since the inception. And none of course was OSU. So, the $ would be a boon in a two team conference, not required to survive. Now, if you want to talk to a media deal being essential... |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 1, 2024 20:16:07 GMT -8
Um...in case you haven't noticed, we are well on our way to becoming such a lower tier school. The path that Liberty took to get here is the exact path that we are betting our entire athletic department on. If our entire AD was dependent on CFP berths OSU would be in trouble. But, next year and after is no different than years past... CFP $ go to the conference and OSU has survived with one berth (this is the 2nd) since the inception. And none of course was OSU. So, the $ would be a boon in a two team conference, not required to survive. Now, if you want to talk to a media deal being essential... This year is the 3rd berth for the PAC 12. uo made it the first year (2014) |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 1, 2024 20:19:28 GMT -8
If our entire AD was dependent on CFP berths OSU would be in trouble. But, next year and after is no different than years past... CFP $ go to the conference and OSU has survived with one berth (this is the 2nd) since the inception. And none of course was OSU. So, the $ would be a boon in a two team conference, not required to survive. Now, if you want to talk to a media deal being essential... This year is the 3rd berth for the PAC 12. uo made it the first year (2014) Oregon in 2014, Washington in 2016, and Washington in 2023. Two previous in the CFP's first nine years. This is the third. Basically the entire explanation as to why 10 schools are leaving. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 1, 2024 20:23:10 GMT -8
This year is the 3rd berth for the PAC 12. uo made it the first year (2014) Oregon in 2014, Washington in 2016, and Washington in 2023. Two previous in the CFP's first nine years. This is the third. Basically the entire explanation as to why 10 schools are leaving. They’re leaving because our conference sucks at football? We didn’t a lot of arguments for teams that got left out. It also didn’t help that your supposed flagship program USC was not very good. UW also had the Lake years. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 1, 2024 20:26:39 GMT -8
I think the lower tiered schools should in ineligible from New Years Day bowl games regardless of record. I think you will see a have verses have not tier of bowls in the future. Strength of schedule should matter a lot not just the season record. Liberty is a prime example. Um...in case you haven't noticed, we are well on our way to becoming such a lower tier school. The path that Liberty took to get here is the exact path that we are betting our entire athletic department on. Liberty ran through a very weak conference. The MWC on the other hand was a pretty strong conference. Boise State, Fresno State, UNLV, Air Force and Wyoming all were ranked in the Top 25 or received votes for it at some point this season. It gets stronger if combined with OSU and WSU. The new Pac-12 could be stronger yet if the Pac takes the best of the MWC and the best of other G5 schools in 2 years. www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-conference-power-rankings-pac-12-tops-sec-mountain-west-stands-out-among-group-of-five/ |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 1, 2024 20:29:39 GMT -8
Oregon in 2014, Washington in 2016, and Washington in 2023. Two previous in the CFP's first nine years. This is the third. Basically the entire explanation as to why 10 schools are leaving. They’re leaving because our conference sucks at football? We didn’t a lot of arguments for teams that got left out. It also didn’t help that your supposed flagship program USC was not very good. UW also had the Lake years. The Pac-12 did not suck at football. The Pac-12 "suffered" from parity. The teams ate each other, leaving no undefeated or once-defeated teams. The other conferences tended to not have a slew of teams that could beat up one another. They all seemed to have one or two great teams that just crushed a weak slate. The Pac-12 got hosed, because the system sucked, still sucks, and was allowed to fester for 10 years. Ultimately, the Pac-12 traded its birthright, the Rose Bowl, for a system that would work to destroy it. Sucks. |
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Post by gnawitall on Jan 1, 2024 21:31:56 GMT -8
I have a handful of friends from high school who are ewwwregon fans and before every game they run a group text, with me in it. Go ducks!, they post and so forth. Interestingly, nothing today.
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Post by sparty on Jan 1, 2024 21:34:59 GMT -8
I think the lower tiered schools should in ineligible from New Years Day bowl games regardless of record. I think you will see a have verses have not tier of bowls in the future. Strength of schedule should matter a lot not just the season record. Liberty is a prime example. Um...in case you haven't noticed, we are well on our way to becoming such a lower tier school. The path that Liberty took to get here is the exact path that we are betting our entire athletic department on. Sounds like doom and gloom. Think positive. New playoff system next year. |
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Post by sparty on Jan 1, 2024 21:39:29 GMT -8
Um...in case you haven't noticed, we are well on our way to becoming such a lower tier school. The path that Liberty took to get here is the exact path that we are betting our entire athletic department on. Liberty ran through a very weak conference. The MWC on the other hand was a pretty strong conference. Boise State, Fresno State, UNLV, Air Force and Wyoming all were ranked in the Top 25 or received votes for it at some point this season. It gets stronger if combined with OSU and WSU. The new Pac-12 could be stronger yet if the Pac takes the best of the MWC and the best of other G5 schools in 2 years. www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-conference-power-rankings-pac-12-tops-sec-mountain-west-stands-out-among-group-of-five/Anyone see the irony in taking the best from the mountinan west and the best of the other G5 schools and leave the leftovers that suck the most? I guess it will suck to be them when the time comes. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 1, 2024 22:23:33 GMT -8
Anyone see the irony in taking the best from the mountinan west and the best of the other G5 schools and leave the leftovers that suck the most? I guess it will suck to be them when the time comes. I think Barnes and Chun want to make the best conference possible AND help identify teams that will make the remaining MWC conference whole. That relegation idea, or something equally interesting, might still be in play. That should leave 10 FBS conferences (barring another realignment storm if FSU wins its lawsuit) and an argument for a P5/G5 situation going forward. If a full reverse merger were planned, they could just do it now because the MWC would jump in a flash. There's no reason for the MWC to play along (the 14 million they're getting wouldn't be enough) for 2 years just to have the Pac-12 kill the MWC and strand several teams. Heck, maybe they have a backroom tentative deal with Apple to make a deal with both conferences in 1-2 years since the MWC is due to end their media deal in 2 seasons. Something's up, because the MWC got awful agreeable suddenly. It would be indeed ironic if the Pac-2 destroyed the MWC and stranded teams. We'd lose the perceived moral "authority"/image perception our ADs have been enjoying of late. |
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Post by jimbeav on Jan 2, 2024 0:55:26 GMT -8
Um...in case you haven't noticed, we are well on our way to becoming such a lower tier school. The path that Liberty took to get here is the exact path that we are betting our entire athletic department on. If our entire AD was dependent on CFP berths OSU would be in trouble. But, next year and after is no different than years past... CFP $ go to the conference and OSU has survived with one berth (this is the 2nd) since the inception. And none of course was OSU. So, the $ would be a boon in a two team conference, not required to survive. Now, if you want to talk to a media deal being essential... Our AD is dependent on our football program. And our football program is, indeed, dependent on the HOPE of getting to the CFP (or rather, it will be starting next year). Just like it has always been dependent on the HOPE of getting to the Rose Bowl/BCS/NY6. We don't need to do it very often, or even at all, but we need that possibility there to keep attracting quality players and coaches, as well as fans. We absolutely need some element of hope for truly great achievements on a national level, to continue to operate and fund as a P5 school with national aspirations in many of our sports. I was simply responding to the comment that eliminating that hope for non-P4 teams will also eliminate that hope for us, and that hope is indeed what Barnes is betting the football program on, and by extension our entire athletic department. That's the first thing he mentions about our strategy going forward, is our unique "path to the CFP". |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 2, 2024 1:37:13 GMT -8
Anyone see the irony in taking the best from the mountain west and the best of the other G5 schools and leave the leftovers that suck the most? I guess it will suck to be them when the time comes. I am hoping that the Pac-2 will be able to re-add California and Stanford and maybe add Southern Methodist for free in 2025. Maybe add some Mountain West teams then. |
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