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Post by grayman on Dec 2, 2023 12:56:28 GMT -8
WSU AD Pat Chun held a press conference on Friday and said that the Pac-12 name is going to be retained by OSU and WSU.
The logo will stay as it is.
Thought that was interesting.
He was also very adamant that OSU and WSU are going to keep looking at all options during the next two years and that the MWC scheduling agreement is nothing more than about filling out the schedule.
So again, a full merger with the MWC is not being seen as the No. 1 option by either WSU or OSU. IMO, it is the final option if there's nothing left.
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Post by speakthetruth on Dec 2, 2023 13:00:27 GMT -8
Nice to hear an AD have a press conference and provide some info.
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 2, 2023 13:07:06 GMT -8
WSU AD Pat Chun held a press conference on Friday and said that the Pac-12 name is going to be retained by OSU and WSU. The logo will stay as it is. Thought that was interesting. He was also very adamant that OSU and WSU are going to keep looking at all options during the next two years and that the MWC scheduling agreement is nothing more than about filling out the schedule. So again, a full merger with the MWC is not being seen as the No. 1 option by either WSU or OSU. IMO, it is the final option if there's nothing left. How are those mutually exclusive except for those who do not want it to happen?? All options... could it be the best/#1? Sure... is there even a hierarchy? Who knows. But, his presser in no way states what you concluded. Whatever is happening behind the scenes will be a process and be changing over the course of a few days, weeks, months, and even year(s). But, a reverse merger will certainly be on the table depending on ?? Exactly no one knows... not even Barnes or Chun. |
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Post by kersting13 on Dec 2, 2023 13:11:28 GMT -8
WSU AD Pat Chun held a press conference on Friday and said that the Pac-12 name is going to be retained by OSU and WSU. The logo will stay as it is. Thought that was interesting. He was also very adamant that OSU and WSU are going to keep looking at all options during the next two years and that the MWC scheduling agreement is nothing more than about filling out the schedule. So again, a full merger with the MWC is not being seen as the No. 1 option by either WSU or OSU. IMO, it is the final option if there's nothing left. As far as the name goes, the big ten has operated for decades with 11+ members, and other leagues have also not changed their names to reflect the number of teams they had, so they’re not really breaking any precedents. |
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Post by grayman on Dec 2, 2023 13:18:28 GMT -8
WSU AD Pat Chun held a press conference on Friday and said that the Pac-12 name is going to be retained by OSU and WSU. The logo will stay as it is. Thought that was interesting. He was also very adamant that OSU and WSU are going to keep looking at all options during the next two years and that the MWC scheduling agreement is nothing more than about filling out the schedule. So again, a full merger with the MWC is not being seen as the No. 1 option by either WSU or OSU. IMO, it is the final option if there's nothing left. How are those mutually exclusive except for those who do not want it to happen?? All options... could it be the best/#1? Sure... is there even a hierarchy? Who knows. But, his presser in no way states what you concluded. Whatever is happening behind the scenes will be a process and be changing over the course of a few days, weeks, months, and even year(s). But, a reverse merger will certainly be on the table depending on ?? Exactly no one knows... not even Barnes or Chun. Because a full merger is already an option. If everything falls apart, i.e. the legal battle, then it is there for OSU and WSU. It is there even if they win but no other option proves viable. Chun was talking about additional options both known and unknown at this point based on college football's lack of stability when it comes to realignment. The highlighted part in your post is patently untrue. |
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Post by messi on Dec 2, 2023 13:18:40 GMT -8
If I were in charge, the conference would be renamed the New Pac Order. When you’re nPo, you’re nPo 4 Life.
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 2, 2023 13:24:18 GMT -8
How are those mutually exclusive except for those who do not want it to happen?? All options... could it be the best/#1? Sure... is there even a hierarchy? Who knows. But, his presser in no way states what you concluded. Whatever is happening behind the scenes will be a process and be changing over the course of a few days, weeks, months, and even year(s). But, a reverse merger will certainly be on the table depending on ?? Exactly no one knows... not even Barnes or Chun. Because a full merger is already an option. If everything falls apart, i.e. the legal battle, then it is there for OSU and WSU. It is there even if they win but no other option proves viable. Chun was talking about additional options both known and unknown at this point based on college football's lack of stability when it comes to realignment. The highlighted part in your post is patently untrue. His presser stated no hierarchy. It stated nothing about #1 option. You completely interpreted his comments as you saw fit and that goes with your desires. |
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Post by grayman on Dec 2, 2023 13:29:51 GMT -8
Because a full merger is already an option. If everything falls apart, i.e. the legal battle, then it is there for OSU and WSU. It is there even if they win but no other option proves viable. Chun was talking about additional options both known and unknown at this point based on college football's lack of stability when it comes to realignment. The highlighted part in your post is patently untrue. His presser stated no hierarchy. It stated nothing about #1 option. You completely interpreted his comments as you saw fit and that goes with your desires. Nah...it just stands to reason that if a full merger with the MWC was the top option, they would make it happen instead of paying $14 million to add six games to the football schedule for next year and talking about taking two years to see what might pop up. And my "desires" were for the Pac-12 to stay intact. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Dec 2, 2023 13:30:06 GMT -8
Idk why there even is numbers. It's like when sequels always had the number. Just make it the PAC and you never have to change it for composition or look like you can't count.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 2, 2023 13:38:38 GMT -8
His presser stated no hierarchy. It stated nothing about #1 option. You completely interpreted his comments as you saw fit and that goes with your desires. Nah...it just stands to reason that if a full merger with the MWC was the top option, they would make it happen instead of paying $14 million to add six games to the football schedule for next year and talking about taking two years to see what might pop up. And my "desires" were for the Pac-12 to stay intact. Not merging immediately with the MWC does not necessarily mean it’s not the top option. The benefit to waiting to merge with the MWC for two years is that we can collect the residual $$ from the PAC 12 without sharing it with the MWC members. Merging with them after 2 years may still be the “top option”. |
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 2, 2023 13:41:13 GMT -8
His presser stated no hierarchy. It stated nothing about #1 option. You completely interpreted his comments as you saw fit and that goes with your desires. Nah...it just stands to reason that if a full merger with the MWC was the top option, they would make it happen instead of paying $14 million to add six games to the football schedule for next year and talking about taking two years to see what might pop up. And my "desires" were for the Pac-12 to stay intact. LOL... it is a bit more complicated that "just make it happen". There are 12 other universities involved. There is a current media deal to navigate that may not want to add $$ for two more teams. OR, may not want to add enough for the other (12) or for OSU/WSU to want. If I'm the media partner I love the idea of the scheduling alliance... get some P5 games without paying a premium fee to the conference. Plus I can then see how the numbers look after year 1 to see IF or how much to make a new/update a contract offer. It certainly could be the number 1 option simply based on a media deal... even if it is not what is truly wanted by OSU/WSU. It could be well, down the list in terms of wait and see. But my point stands you made a personal interpretation/conclusion that was not stated by Chun. That's all. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 2, 2023 13:48:04 GMT -8
It’s just the PAC 1…2.
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Post by grayman on Dec 2, 2023 14:13:23 GMT -8
Nah...it just stands to reason that if a full merger with the MWC was the top option, they would make it happen instead of paying $14 million to add six games to the football schedule for next year and talking about taking two years to see what might pop up. And my "desires" were for the Pac-12 to stay intact. Not merging immediately with the MWC does not necessarily mean it’s not the top option. The benefit to waiting to merge with the MWC for two years is that we can collect the residual $$ from the PAC 12 without sharing it with the MWC members. Merging with them after 2 years may still be the “top option”. Point taken but again, why won't they just come out and say that's their plan? They keep talking about options, plural. It also gives them two years before they have to expand to eight teams. If they can do so without spending a lot of money in the process it makes more sense to keep it there and wait on upheaval with other conferences that might provide a better financial situation. And just because some fans have declared that OSU and WSU will never be asked to join the Big 12 or other power conference doesn't mean that administrators like Chun necessarily believe it's off the table for the future. Also, Chun mentioned how the current situation of college football is in constant flux: "The reality is that realignment is not done. President Shulz has been quite clear, we are a power five school, our performance indicates that we are a power five school, we're going to do our best to continue to compete at that level and that's really our goal going forward." |
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Post by grayman on Dec 2, 2023 14:32:48 GMT -8
Nah...it just stands to reason that if a full merger with the MWC was the top option, they would make it happen instead of paying $14 million to add six games to the football schedule for next year and talking about taking two years to see what might pop up. And my "desires" were for the Pac-12 to stay intact. LOL... it is a bit more complicated that "just make it happen". There are 12 other universities involved. There is a current media deal to navigate that may not want to add $$ for two more teams. OR, may not want to add enough for the other (12) or for OSU/WSU to want. If I'm the media partner I love the idea of the scheduling alliance... get some P5 games without paying a premium fee to the conference. Plus I can then see how the numbers look after year 1 to see IF or how much to make a new/update a contract offer. It certainly could be the number 1 option simply based on a media deal... even if it is not what is truly wanted by OSU/WSU. It could be well, down the list in terms of wait and see.
But my point stands you made a personal interpretation/conclusion that was not stated by Chun. That's all. As in not the No. 1 plan...as far as how I interpret Chun's comments, he obviously did not state that any one plan was the No. 1 plan. But I can come to a certain conclusion based on what he says. I would be interested in what you conclude from this quote by Chun (for example): "The reality is that realignment is not done. President Shulz has been quite clear, we are a power five school, our performance indicates that we are a power five school, we're going to do our best to continue to compete at that level and that's really our goal going forward." |
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 2, 2023 14:33:17 GMT -8
Not merging immediately with the MWC does not necessarily mean it’s not the top option. The benefit to waiting to merge with the MWC for two years is that we can collect the residual $$ from the PAC 12 without sharing it with the MWC members. Merging with them after 2 years may still be the “top option”. Point taken but again, why won't they just come out and say that's their plan? They keep talking about options, plural. It also gives them two years before they have to expand to eight teams. If they can do so without spending a lot of money in the process it makes more sense to keep it there and wait on upheaval with other conferences that might provide a better financial situation. And just because some fans have declared that OSU and WSU will never be asked to join the Big 12 or other power conference doesn't mean that administrators like Chun necessarily believe it's off the table for the future. Also, Chun mentioned how the current situation of college football is in constant flux: "The reality is that realignment is not done. President Shulz has been quite clear, we are a power five school, our performance indicates that we are a power five school, we're going to do our best to continue to compete at that level and that's really our goal going forward." I get your thinking that if you wish hard enough, a power conference invite will appear. The problem is that it won’t. |
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