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Post by grayman on Nov 21, 2023 22:01:06 GMT -8
The very next question Canzano asks is how committed Smith is to the future at Oregon State:
"I will say that I grow more and more confident every time I talk to Scott (Barnes) in regards to the plan to operate and fund at the Power 5 level, scheduling and trying to create a schedule that works. It's not an easy task. You know the situation that us and Washington State are in, but my confidence grows listening to Scott more and more on the plan to fund it at that level and how we're going to get it done -- my confidence grows on that end."
Smith also said "there's been discussions" about a contract extension.
Basically there's nothing in the interview that can be read into with any surety.
Smith has no doubt been contacted by other schools. Why wouldn't he be? I just don't think there's a high chance of him leaving OSU in the near future unless he really believes the bottom is going to fall out.
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Post by gnawitall on Nov 22, 2023 0:32:43 GMT -8
Hmmmm... not sure why fans get so riled up on this coaching stuff. In actuality there is zero fans can do, and it's almost the same for the school. OSU has about reached the limit, probably over, what they can shell out for a HC and football staff. With the next couple years in flux there is no way a raise/extension is a wise financial move. Secondly, a coaches value? There is no such thing other than what a school's budget and boosters allow. Was Jimbo worth $75 mil? T A&M said so, but no he wasn't. For now JS's value has been reached... at OSU. Next... if JS values a bigger pay check, for himself & staff, OSU is in no position to compete with big budget schools. And, I'm sorry if JS doesn't value loyalty, commitment, and not abandoning the school that gave him his chance with the situation OSU is in... well, don't let the door hit ya too hard on the way out. Plus, JS has proven there are very talented assistants with zero HCing experience that can build and sustain a program. Coaches leaving are the way of college athletics. I don't see JS leaving during the transition. But, I'm not going to worry about it either way. Hopefully the montra 'low ego, high output' will be his reason to stay. |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 22, 2023 6:17:15 GMT -8
As a JS fan, I'd hate to see him at any of these schools. MSU isn't too far off from OSU in terms of culture but better opportunities are on the horizon for JS (i.e. USC when Riley gets canned, Washington should DeBoer move on, Michigan when Harbaugh goes to NFL).
IMO all three of the high profile jobs currently avail have the huge potential to quickly rub the shine off his career.
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 22, 2023 9:41:32 GMT -8
My take on the comments are generally that it is a bit of JS posturing and that him moving on is a real risk due to our situation.
The conversations about confidence and funding at a P5 level are really it. JS knows he cannot do what he needs to do if we fall behind in recruiting and NIL money, etc. He knows he can't keep assistants with a cut budget. He also knows if OSU fades away, so does he if he does want to move on at some point. He is a captain that would go down with this ship, if we sunk.
That said, Martinez announcing he is coming back makes me feel a little better. He probably doesn't announce that if he thought Smith was gone.
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Post by sessbeav on Nov 22, 2023 9:46:59 GMT -8
My take on the comments are generally that it is a bit of JS posturing and that him moving on is a real risk due to our situation. The conversations about confidence and funding at a P5 level are really it. JS knows he cannot do what he needs to do if we fall behind in recruiting and NIL money, etc. He knows he can't keep assistants with a cut budget. He also knows if OSU fades away, so does he if he does want to move on at some point. He is a captain that would go down with this ship, if we sunk. That said, Martinez announcing he is coming back makes me feel a little better. He probably doesn't announce that if he thought Smith was gone. I think I read somewhere that Chiles is committed to coming back as well? Can anyone confirm that?? |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 22, 2023 12:33:20 GMT -8
Sounds to me like the biggest risk of losing Smith would be if a school were to offer his assistants huge raises, along with more money to himself - But that assistant money could be what seals any potential move.
We'll probably lose him at some point. I hope it's well down the line.
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Post by sparty on Nov 22, 2023 12:36:16 GMT -8
Sounds to me like the biggest risk of losing Smith would be if a school were to offer his assistants huge raises, along with more money to himself - But that assistant money could be what seals any potential move. We'll probably lose him at some point. I hope it's well down the line. That is basically what he wants. The wallet to open for his assistants. We can't really do that at this point. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 22, 2023 12:44:44 GMT -8
Sounds to me like the biggest risk of losing Smith would be if a school were to offer his assistants huge raises, along with more money to himself - But that assistant money could be what seals any potential move. We'll probably lose him at some point. I hope it's well down the line. That is basically what he wants. The wallet to open for his assistants. We can't really do that at this point. We've come a long ways in the assistant pay department, but some schools can afford "crazy" money if they want. The thing about paying asstants crazy money, they're usually only on two and three year contracts max. Canning them potentially might not cost as much as paying huge money to a HC with a lot of years left on their contract. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 22, 2023 13:43:48 GMT -8
Well, if he does leave we will have good candidates. OSU will be the best G5 job in the country, and probably better than P5 jobs like Northwestern and Vanderbilt.
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Post by grayman on Nov 22, 2023 14:22:36 GMT -8
If Smith leaves, it's not going to be just for the money.
A big part of it will be determined by how he views the future of the program.
Hard for me to believe OSU is just going to have a bunch of truly good (proven) candidates waiting in the wings if that's the case.
Obviously they'd be able to hire someone and bringing in a new coach is always something that comes down to chance but it would be far from the best circumstances.
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 22, 2023 14:26:21 GMT -8
If Smith leaves, it's not going to be just for the money. A big part of it will be determined by how he views the future of the program. Hard for me to believe OSU is just going to have a bunch of truly good (proven) candidates waiting in the wings if that's the case. Obviously they'd be able to hire someone and bringing in a new coach is always something that comes down to chance but it would be far from the best circumstances. JS was not "proven". No head coaching experience and he was getting some heat as OC at UW. |
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Post by grayman on Nov 22, 2023 14:38:31 GMT -8
If Smith leaves, it's not going to be just for the money. A big part of it will be determined by how he views the future of the program. Hard for me to believe OSU is just going to have a bunch of truly good (proven) candidates waiting in the wings if that's the case. Obviously they'd be able to hire someone and bringing in a new coach is always something that comes down to chance but it would be far from the best circumstances. JS was not "proven". No head coaching experience and he was getting some heat as OC at UW. No, but OSU was not coming off three straight winning seasons and consistent ranking in the past two, etc. In many people's eyes the program had bottomed out. And while Smith was unproven as far as head coaching experience, his ties to OSU and the prevailing notion among people in and around the OSU football program that he was almost destined to be a head coach were big reasons to take a step that would most likely not be taken otherwise. If OSU was still the Pac-12 (moving forward) and Smith took another job, do you think the Beavers would be looking at a lot of unproven candidates? |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 22, 2023 14:43:46 GMT -8
JS was not "proven". No head coaching experience and he was getting some heat as OC at UW. No, but OSU was not coming off three straight winning seasons and consistent ranking in the past two, etc. In many people's eyes the program had bottomed out. And while Smith was unproven as far as head coaching experience, his ties to OSU and the prevailing notion among people in and around the OSU football program that he was almost destined to be a head coach were big reasons to take a step that would most likely not be taken otherwise. If OSU was still the Pac-12 (moving forward) and Smith took another job, do you think the Beavers would be looking at a lot of unproven candidates? There would be ample outstanding candidates for this job. Check out the candidate field for Boise State. We're a better job than BSU. |
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Post by grayman on Nov 22, 2023 14:49:59 GMT -8
No, but OSU was not coming off three straight winning seasons and consistent ranking in the past two, etc. In many people's eyes the program had bottomed out. And while Smith was unproven as far as head coaching experience, his ties to OSU and the prevailing notion among people in and around the OSU football program that he was almost destined to be a head coach were big reasons to take a step that would most likely not be taken otherwise. If OSU was still the Pac-12 (moving forward) and Smith took another job, do you think the Beavers would be looking at a lot of unproven candidates? There would be ample outstanding candidates for this job. Check out the candidate field for Boise State. We're a better job than BSU. For the moment. Maybe. I don't think potential candidates are going to be unaware of the current situation OSU is in and would take pause when considering why Smith would leave. Again, IMO no way he would leave for more money alone. |
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 22, 2023 14:59:05 GMT -8
There would be ample outstanding candidates for this job. Check out the candidate field for Boise State. We're a better job than BSU. For the moment. Maybe. I don't think potential candidates are going to be unaware of the current situation OSU is in and would take pause when considering why Smith would leave. Again, IMO no way he would leave for more money alone. Hell, lets not act like Bray wouldn't be on the shortlist himself... Lets not forget he was head coach of Nebraska once!!! |
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