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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 14, 2023 19:05:04 GMT -8
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Post by korculabeav on Nov 14, 2023 20:27:57 GMT -8
YES. After his destructive actions toward WSU and OSU, his ill intent is grounds for being termed. No one can defend or justify his conspiratorial behavior.
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Post by irimi on Nov 14, 2023 22:01:16 GMT -8
Monday morning
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 14, 2023 22:18:13 GMT -8
I doubt OSU and WSU will can him immediately- I could be very wrong, but the Pac 2 leadership has not appeared to operate off knee-jerk reactions.
The current Pac-12 is an ongoing concern and needs to be managed and there would be a void needing immediate filling. I's there a #2/3/4 guy at the Pac-12 OSU & WSU could trust? Barnes could be a good alternative, but he's busy and seemingly committed here, maybe Mr. Luck?
I see Kliavkoff gone, but it might be months, not days.
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Post by irimi on Nov 15, 2023 5:06:09 GMT -8
I doubt OSU and WSU will can him immediately- I could be very wrong, but the Pac 2 leadership has not appeared to operate off knee-jerk reactions. The current Pac-12 is an ongoing concern and needs to be managed and there would be a void needing immediate filling. I's there a #2/3/4 guy at the Pac-12 OSU & WSU could trust? Barnes could be a good alternative, but he's busy and seemingly committed here, maybe Mr. Luck? I see Kliavkoff gone, but it might be months, not days. Then at least a salary reduction. |
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Post by beaver55to7 on Nov 15, 2023 7:23:48 GMT -8
I doubt OSU and WSU will can him immediately- I could be very wrong, but the Pac 2 leadership has not appeared to operate off knee-jerk reactions. The current Pac-12 is an ongoing concern and needs to be managed and there would be a void needing immediate filling. I's there a #2/3/4 guy at the Pac-12 OSU & WSU could trust? Barnes could be a good alternative, but he's busy and seemingly committed here, maybe Mr. Luck? I see Kliavkoff gone, but it might be months, not days. just no, Georgie is not doing ANYTHING but hanging in his Montana home. He knows he is done, probably spending any work time that he does do talking to his lawyer to come up with a lawsuit for when he gets FIRED for cause with no buyout. Fire his ass Monday at 12:01. Any decently run company knows you have to get cancers out of the office immediately. |
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Post by irimi on Nov 15, 2023 7:32:35 GMT -8
A man with integrity would step down, understanding that he backed the wrong dog in this fight. A man of lesser character will hang on as long as possible. If he hasn't resigned by Monday, either make him really, really want to resign or fire him. He has shown his true colors, so it is clear that he wouldn't work in the interests of WSU and OSU. He's got to go.
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 15, 2023 8:56:39 GMT -8
Yes, the ruling takes effect Monday at noon. There is a 100% certainty that UW files their appeal before then. There is less certainty the appeals court grants a stay or takes the appeal. OSU/WSU case seems strong, there doesn't appear to be errors in the ruling, because ultimately despite everything said and thrown around, it all hinges on one simple idea: who gets a board seat. On top of that, the judge put in reasonable limitations to OSU/WSU and largely said: no you can't take the money and run or these schools can sue you. |
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Post by p8nted on Nov 15, 2023 9:00:35 GMT -8
A man with integrity would step down, understanding that he backed the wrong dog in this fight. A man of lesser character will hang on as long as possible. If he hasn't resigned by Monday, either make him really, really want to resign or fire him. He has shown his true colors, so it is clear that he wouldn't work in the interests of WSU and OSU. He's got to go. This |
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 15, 2023 10:02:42 GMT -8
A man with integrity would step down, understanding that he backed the wrong dog in this fight. A man of lesser character will hang on as long as possible. If he hasn't resigned by Monday, either make him really, really want to resign or fire him. He has shown his true colors, so it is clear that he wouldn't work in the interests of WSU and OSU. He's got to go. In Japan they’d commit hara-kiri. |
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Post by irimi on Nov 15, 2023 10:55:22 GMT -8
A man with integrity would step down, understanding that he backed the wrong dog in this fight. A man of lesser character will hang on as long as possible. If he hasn't resigned by Monday, either make him really, really want to resign or fire him. He has shown his true colors, so it is clear that he wouldn't work in the interests of WSU and OSU. He's got to go. In Japan they’d commit hara-kiri. I'll provide the tanto and serve as his second. |
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Post by irimi on Nov 15, 2023 10:56:08 GMT -8
Yes, the ruling takes effect Monday at noon. There is a 100% certainty that UW files their appeal before then. There is less certainty the appeals court grants a stay or takes the appeal. OSU/WSU case seems strong, there doesn't appear to be errors in the ruling, because ultimately despite everything said and thrown around, it all hinges on one simple idea: who gets a board seat. On top of that, the judge put in reasonable limitations to OSU/WSU and largely said: no you can't take the money and run or these schools can sue you. Right. But I woke up with that Fleetwood Mac song in my head. |
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Post by beaver94 on Nov 15, 2023 11:10:09 GMT -8
A man with integrity would step down, understanding that he backed the wrong dog in this fight. A man of lesser character will hang on as long as possible. If he hasn't resigned by Monday, either make him really, really want to resign or fire him. He has shown his true colors, so it is clear that he wouldn't work in the interests of WSU and OSU. He's got to go. I’m not sure he wouldn’t work in the interests of WSU and OSU now, and it’s not a reason to keep him, but I think what he’s really shown is he’s going to latch on to whatever he thinks is in his best interests. |
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Post by irimi on Nov 15, 2023 11:22:46 GMT -8
A man with integrity would step down, understanding that he backed the wrong dog in this fight. A man of lesser character will hang on as long as possible. If he hasn't resigned by Monday, either make him really, really want to resign or fire him. He has shown his true colors, so it is clear that he wouldn't work in the interests of WSU and OSU. He's got to go. I’m not sure he wouldn’t work in the interests of WSU and OSU now, and it’s not a reason to keep him, but I think what he’s really shown is he’s going to latch on to whatever he thinks is in his best interests. You might be right; I'm just not willing to wait and see. He had an opportunity to side with us and he chose not to, even when he, of all people, knew that we were in the right. A bit of a hypocrite and a bit too two-faced for my tastes. |
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Post by rgeorge on Nov 15, 2023 11:27:39 GMT -8
A man with integrity would step down, understanding that he backed the wrong dog in this fight. A man of lesser character will hang on as long as possible. If he hasn't resigned by Monday, either make him really, really want to resign or fire him. He has shown his true colors, so it is clear that he wouldn't work in the interests of WSU and OSU. He's got to go. I’m not sure he wouldn’t work in the interests of WSU and OSU now, and it’s not a reason to keep him, but I think what he’s really shown is he’s going to latch on to whatever he thinks is in his best interests. The downside in wanting control of a conference is that OSU/WSU are tied to the current contracts and obligations to employees. Hence, they need to be careful to each and every move as to it being in the best interest of the Pac12. As for now they are the only voting members, but the judge stated they have to be careful on their financial moves. Since GK aligned with the other Ten, he has some people in his corner. Unless there is "cause" OSU/WSU need to tread lightly for a while as to not expose themselves to a lawsuit. The same with every other contract that was approved under the last board meeting. Until the time for dismissal (with cause) or contract renewal GK should be instructed by the board to be in office, and give him assigned tasks that have zero connection to the future of the conference, no matter how minimal. He also needs to have all top level clearance removed for any info regarding financial data. Any failure to follow conditions of employment would then be cause for termination. If the two Presidents allow him to hunker down in Montana without it being assigned PTO or vaca time it is on them. I myself would work the guy to death on the most menial tasks until he begs to resign. |
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