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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 15, 2023 20:35:11 GMT -8
I'm sure this has been asked but, should UW or UO get into the CFB championship and advance or even win the title, would associated payouts be received by the Conference before the July 1, 2024 severance date?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 15, 2023 21:16:09 GMT -8
I am hoping for home-and-homes with Cal and Oregon. Maybe Utah. There are a lot of scheduling rumors out there, specifically that we would schedule Stanford, Cal & Utah next year. No ducks. With Purdue and WSU, we would have 5 P5 schools, 6 G5 schools and Idaho St. We shall see. I think that Stanford rounded out their schedule already. UCLA had an opening that closed. Arizona or Colorado also had an opening that closed. The only ones with openings this year are Cal and Utah. Oregon would make three, if they can get out of the Idaho game, which would keep Oregon State at five P5 schools. Then, you just need the Mountain West to cancel five conference games from every team besides Boise and San Diego State (who already play Oregon State and Wazzu, respectively) and have each of those teams play Oregon State or Wazzu in one game in 2024. Easy peasy. I could put that together in like two hours' time. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 15, 2023 21:18:19 GMT -8
I'm sure this has been asked but, should UW or UO get into the CFB championship and advance or even win the title, would associated payouts be received by the Conference before the July 1, 2024 severance date? It is my understanding that the CFP payouts get paid out after the end of February each year. |
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Post by irimi on Nov 16, 2023 7:01:30 GMT -8
I'm sure this has been asked but, should UW or UO get into the CFB championship and advance or even win the title, would associated payouts be received by the Conference before the July 1, 2024 severance date? Official page for CFP says the payoff will be in "Spring". Damn. Wish they could hold onto it just a little longer..... |
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Post by hottubbeaver on Nov 16, 2023 10:47:17 GMT -8
I'm sure this has been asked but, should OSU UW or UO get into the CFB championship and advance or even win the title, would associated payouts be received by the Conference before the July 1, 2024 severance date? FIXED |
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 16, 2023 11:26:32 GMT -8
I'm sure this has been asked but, should OSU UW or UO get into the CFB championship and advance or even win the title, would associated payouts be received by the Conference before the July 1, 2024 severance date? FIXED I admire your optimism. |
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Post by kersting13 on Nov 16, 2023 11:32:02 GMT -8
so round numbers for the 23/24 year...Call it $420M. Agree to $30M to each of the 10 and $60M to each of us and WSU. Basically each the 10 pay $5M to take care of the damage done to OSU and WSU... or maybe $28m x 10 and $70 x 2.  Costs the 10 $7m each and we are all done with it We keep all the assets, including the Pac 12 name and rights and future payments after Aug 1, 2024 TBD- liabilities that are unknown at this time but are from activity prior to Aug 1, 2024. Do we require all 12 schools to share in those potential future cash outlays? seems it would follow the judge's rule that nobody gets screwed over... Didn't someone say the exit fee from the MWC was something like $28 million? There seems to be at least some precedent of how much it costs to bail on a conference. $5-$7 million seems like getting off pretty cheaply. IDK. |
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Post by rgeorge on Nov 16, 2023 12:07:01 GMT -8
so round numbers for the 23/24 year...Call it $420M. Agree to $30M to each of the 10 and $60M to each of us and WSU. Basically each the 10 pay $5M to take care of the damage done to OSU and WSU... or maybe $28m x 10 and $70 x 2. Costs the 10 $7m each and we are all done with it We keep all the assets, including the Pac 12 name and rights and future payments after Aug 1, 2024 TBD- liabilities that are unknown at this time but are from activity prior to Aug 1, 2024. Do we require all 12 schools to share in those potential future cash outlays? seems it would follow the judge's rule that nobody gets screwed over... Didn't someone say the exit fee from the MWC was something like $28 million? There seems to be at least some precedent of how much it costs to bail on a conference. $5-$7 million seems like getting off pretty cheaply. IDK. For months folks have tossed about so many numbers and info it all gets jumbled and the truth gets lost. MWC media deal is $270 mil over 6 years, $45 mil per year. It is about $4 mil per team + extra payouts involved with bowls, NCAA tourney, etc. I believe BSU get 1.5 shares as part of a deal to stay put. Last I saw after the SD St fiasco was the MWC set a buyout of $16.5 mil IF notice is given OVER (1) year in advance. One year or less it is like double that, $33 mil. It really has nothing to do with the media amount to each team, it is just a penalty to offset lost revenue for a time. But, since the Pac2 has no existing media deal to offset such a buyout it has never been a real consideration as even full control of Pac12 $ would not allow OSU/WSU to afford paying buyouts for enough MWC to make a difference, and have extra dollars to offset a lower media deal. The key was to have the MWC to vote to disband the conference, hence no buyouts. But, the MWC is not going to get said votes if all the members aren't included. There might be other intricacies, but I think that is the basics that gets lost in all of this. |
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Post by ftd on Nov 16, 2023 12:25:24 GMT -8
anybody know if the appeal has been filed with the WA Supreme Court? Does the SC make a ruling soon after the appeal is filed or does it take days/ weeks/months?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 16, 2023 15:08:19 GMT -8
so round numbers for the 23/24 year...Call it $420M. Agree to $30M to each of the 10 and $60M to each of us and WSU. Basically each the 10 pay $5M to take care of the damage done to OSU and WSU... or maybe $28m x 10 and $70 x 2. Costs the 10 $7m each and we are all done with it We keep all the assets, including the Pac 12 name and rights and future payments after Aug 1, 2024 TBD- liabilities that are unknown at this time but are from activity prior to Aug 1, 2024. Do we require all 12 schools to share in those potential future cash outlays? seems it would follow the judge's rule that nobody gets screwed over... Didn't someone say the exit fee from the MWC was something like $28 million? There seems to be at least some precedent of how much it costs to bail on a conference. $5-$7 million seems like getting off pretty cheaply. IDK. Supposedly, the Mountain West exit fees are $34 million but only $17 million, if you give more than a year's notice before June 30, 2024. The Mountain West fees are tied to how much the conference's contract is or something like that, so the actual numbers are very squirrelly. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 16, 2023 15:09:45 GMT -8
anybody know if the appeal has been filed with the WA Supreme Court? Does the SC make a ruling soon after the appeal is filed or does it take days/ weeks/months? The University of Washington has appealed to the Washington Supreme Court. Briefs are due by November 28th. But that can be expedited by the parties. |
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Post by sparty on Nov 16, 2023 15:26:53 GMT -8
anybody know if the appeal has been filed with the WA Supreme Court? Does the SC make a ruling soon after the appeal is filed or does it take days/ weeks/months? The University of Washington has appealed to the Washington Supreme Court. Briefs are due by November 28th. But that can be expedited by the parties. Just read it on O-live. File briefs by Nov 28th then that gets tight before portal flood gates open on Dec 5th |
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Post by rgeorge on Nov 16, 2023 16:06:52 GMT -8
The University of Washington has appealed to the Washington Supreme Court. Briefs are due by November 28th. But that can be expedited by the parties. Just read it on O-live. File briefs by Nov 28th then that gets tight before portal flood gates open on Dec 5th Nothing will be decided by the Portal date. It never was. It's a cluster and OSU/WSU will lucky if the briefs are even reviewed by the portal date. As we all know courts aren't going to be rushed by something the NCAA portal. However, under the Washington Sate SC guidelines this issue does fall into the scope of: "broad public interest and requires a prompt and ultimate determination." The best hope is the once reviewed, the Commissioner and Central Staff decide the case does not deserve a full hearing. Very few of over 1000 petitions are heard by this court, so ?? |
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Post by ftd on Nov 16, 2023 16:41:48 GMT -8
The University of Washington has appealed to the Washington Supreme Court. Briefs are due by November 28th. But that can be expedited by the parties. Just read it on O-live. File briefs by Nov 28th then that gets tight before portal flood gates open on Dec 5th They do need time to review the briefs |
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Post by grayman on Nov 16, 2023 16:47:30 GMT -8
The football portal is open for 45 days. I would think that current OSU players will have made up their minds going into the time period.
I think it has much higher potential to do more damage as far as OSU being a landing spot.
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Costs the 10 $7m each and we are all done with it