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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 15, 2023 14:24:04 GMT -8
I think within a week, we are going to have a general framework of a schedule announced. I believe it will include the Civil War in Corvallis and at least one other surprise.
It will be a good enough schedule to convince recruits that we have a path to the 12 team playoff. School is going to sit down with every football player one on one to discuss, and our big guns are being well looked after NIL wise. For the first time in a while, I feel like there is some decent light at the end of the tunnel
I am hoping for home-and-homes with Cal and Oregon. Maybe Utah. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 15, 2023 14:30:34 GMT -8
I think within a week, we are going to have a general framework of a schedule announced. I believe it will include the Civil War in Corvallis and at least one other surprise.
It will be a good enough schedule to convince recruits that we have a path to the 12 team playoff. School is going to sit down with every football player one on one to discuss, and our big guns are being well looked after NIL wise. For the first time in a while, I feel like there is some decent light at the end of the tunnel
I am hoping for home-and-homes with Cal and Oregon. Maybe Utah. There are a lot of scheduling rumors out there, specifically that we would schedule Stanford, Cal & Utah next year. No ducks. With Purdue and WSU, we would have 5 P5 schools, 6 G5 schools and Idaho St. We shall see. |
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Post by jrbeavo on Nov 15, 2023 14:36:08 GMT -8
I am hoping for home-and-homes with Cal and Oregon. Maybe Utah. There are a lot of scheduling rumors out there, specifically that we would schedule Stanford, Cal & Utah next year. No ducks. With Purdue and WSU, we would have 5 P5 schools, 6 G5 schools and Idaho St. We shall see. I have a reasonably good source saying that the Civil War is very much a possibility. Smith and Lanning are leading the charge. |
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Post by beavaristotle on Nov 15, 2023 14:56:26 GMT -8
There are a lot of scheduling rumors out there, specifically that we would schedule Stanford, Cal & Utah next year. No ducks. With Purdue and WSU, we would have 5 P5 schools, 6 G5 schools and Idaho St. We shall see. I have a reasonably good source saying that the Civil War is very much a possibility. Smith and Lanning are leading the charge. why would the new coach at Texas A&M care about the civil war 😉 |
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Post by ftd on Nov 15, 2023 14:59:34 GMT -8
so round numbers for the 23/24 year...Call it $420M. Agree to $30M to each of the 10 and $60M to each of us and WSU. Basically each the 10 pay $5M to take care of the damage done to OSU and WSU... or maybe $28m x 10 and $70 x 2.  Costs the 10 $7m each and we are all done with it We keep all the assets, including the Pac 12 name and rights and future payments after Aug 1, 2024 TBD- liabilities that are unknown at this time but are from activity prior to Aug 1, 2024. Do we require all 12 schools to share in those potential future cash outlays? seems it would follow the judge's rule that nobody gets screwed over... No! Absolutely not! The rest of the Pac-12 gets next to none of the $457 million. They get whatever is leftover on June 30, 2024. No future income travels from the Pac-12 to former members. That is money that the conference needs and should go to current members. No golden parachutes! The other 10 made their beds. They should have to sleep in them. Good luck with that. The Judge specifically said that type of approach would not be allowed. |
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Post by p8nted on Nov 15, 2023 15:16:03 GMT -8
That is where I am. Withholding any significant amount from the 23-24 payouts will lead to a few years of court battles and more limbo and nobody gets paid anything for 23-24. Can we afford to go a year or two with no revenue stream to speak of? I'm still not really convinced that the other 10 can simply ride it out with "a few years of court battles". Unless you have an uncle with a shoe company, there's not some big pile of money they can live off of while this plays out. Cal and Stanford just took a revenue hit to join the ACC. Zona is a dumpster fire. ASU is getting a huge subsidy from the university to stay afloat. UCLA posted a 28m athletic dept deficit in 2022. Those guys have bills coming due just like everyone else and budgets already baked in based on projected revenue. dragging this out hurts them just as much as it hurts us. Understood but many of them will have solid revenue streams in place in 9 months or so. We will not. Game of chicken? |
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Post by p8nted on Nov 15, 2023 15:18:00 GMT -8
I think within a week, we are going to have a general framework of a schedule announced. I believe it will include the Civil War in Corvallis and at least one other surprise.
It will be a good enough schedule to convince recruits that we have a path to the 12 team playoff. School is going to sit down with every football player one on one to discuss, and our big guns are being well looked after NIL wise. For the first time in a while, I feel like there is some decent light at the end of the tunnel
I am hoping for home-and-homes with Cal and Oregon. Maybe Utah. According to Ute fans Utah has one opening left. Cal may have to sign a road one and done $$ game with a SEC or BIG team to balance the books. Arizona might need a road money game the next few years as well. fbschedules.com/2024-utah-football-schedule/ Baylor is now a non-conference game for Utah fbschedules.com/2024-baylor-utah-football-game-to-be-considered-non-conference-contest/BYU signed a home and home with SMU. Fewer and fewer options |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 15, 2023 15:24:52 GMT -8
I have a reasonably good source saying that the Civil War is very much a possibility. Smith and Lanning are leading the charge. why would the new coach at Texas A&M care about the civil war 😉 I think Lanning is holding out for Michigan.  |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 15, 2023 15:35:33 GMT -8
The departing teams certainly should share in the 2023-24 media rights. They were part of the conference. They earned them. If we try to screw them, we're back in court in a New York minute, and justifiably so.
Maybe not the full share, as has been suggested maybe deduct $5 million or so from each school to give us and Wazzu more transition money in addition to future NCAA basketball and other payouts to stay afloat until the new Pac-12 is formed.
The judge was pretty clear, he expects OSU and WSU to act in a forthright manner with our soon-to-be-departing colleagues. I'd expect nothing less.
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Post by ftd on Nov 15, 2023 15:47:11 GMT -8
why would the new coach at Texas A&M care about the civil war 😉 I think Lanning is holding out for Michigan. State. Change the city name to East Lanning....Done deal! |
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Post by grayman on Nov 15, 2023 16:38:19 GMT -8
Canzano reporting that "As expected, University of Washington has filed a motion to stay in the state Supreme Court to put Tuesday's ruling on hold and extend TRO to allow the Supreme Court to establish a schedule for a more complete review."
Also posted this in the football board thread.
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Post by ftd on Nov 15, 2023 17:01:04 GMT -8
Canzano reporting that "As expected, University of Washington has filed a motion to stay in the state Supreme Court to put Tuesday's ruling on hold and extend TRO to allow the Supreme Court to establish a schedule for a more complete review." Also posted this in the football board thread. The judge agreed to holding his decision until end of week/Monday at noon for this appeal, correct? Or is this a different legal maneuver? I have no idea how long it takes the appeals court (WA supreme court I assume) to rule on the motion....anybody know? Or do we (OSU and WSU) just move forward on Monday as if Judge Libey's rule is in place? |
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Post by grayman on Nov 15, 2023 17:08:29 GMT -8
Canzano reporting that "As expected, University of Washington has filed a motion to stay in the state Supreme Court to put Tuesday's ruling on hold and extend TRO to allow the Supreme Court to establish a schedule for a more complete review." Also posted this in the football board thread. The judge agreed to holding his decision until end of week/Monday at noon for this appeal, correct? Or is this a different legal maneuver? I have no idea how long it takes the appeals court (WA supreme court I assume) to rule on the motion....anybody know? Or do we (OSU and WSU) just move forward on Monday as if Judge Libey's rule is in place? I think the intent (along with the stay) is to extend it past Monday. But I'm not a lawyer... |
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Post by sparty on Nov 15, 2023 19:05:33 GMT -8
No! Absolutely not! The rest of the Pac-12 gets next to none of the $457 million. They get whatever is leftover on June 30, 2024. No future income travels from the Pac-12 to former members. That is money that the conference needs and should go to current members. No golden parachutes! The other 10 made their beds. They should have to sleep in them. Good luck with that. The Judge specifically said that type of approach would not be allowed. Screw the judge, What could he really do to enforce it if the by laws are changed now. He is looking at the by laws as they currently are. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 15, 2023 20:31:14 GMT -8
No! Absolutely not! The rest of the Pac-12 gets next to none of the $457 million. They get whatever is leftover on June 30, 2024. No future income travels from the Pac-12 to former members. That is money that the conference needs and should go to current members. No golden parachutes! The other 10 made their beds. They should have to sleep in them. Good luck with that. The Judge specifically said that type of approach would not be allowed. The judge indicated that Oregon State and Wazzu could not withhold payments before July 1, 2024. The judge's ruling does not cover what happens thereafter. The $457 million number is my very rough guesstimate of what net funds the Pac-12 could reasonably count on after July 1, 2024. There could be another say $444 million (or thereabouts) on top of that $457 million number that is set to paid out throughout fiscal 2023-2024. I believe that that $444 million is what the judge's order is focusing on. |
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Costs the 10 $7m each and we are all done with it
