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Post by nuclearbeaver on Oct 19, 2023 5:20:10 GMT -8
11 undefeated programs left.
ACC - UNC and FSU
BIG12 - Oklahoma
BIG10 - tOSU, Michigan and PSU
PAC - UW
SEC - Georgia
USA - Liberty
MWC - Air Force
Sun Belt - James Madison
Biggest matchup this week is #7 PSU at #3 tOSU. I'm guessing this game doesn't affect the rankings much, in the short term, for the Beavs.
#17 TN at #11 Bamba should clarify something, if TN wins they may jump us for reasons.
#16 Duke at #4 FSU, cheering for Duke!
Utah heads to LA in what could be a weird one. Utah has limited offense and great defense, USC has impressive offense (well they have impressive Williams) and a high school defense. I think Utah makes mincemeat of the condoms protection getting to Williams. Either way this Utah has a shot to hand SC it's first conference loss.
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 19, 2023 10:13:34 GMT -8
Remaining schedules:
Sooners... vs UCF, @ Kansas, @ Ok St, vs WV, @ BYU, vs TCU, B12 Title game
UNC... vs Virginia, @ Ga Tech, vs Campbell, vs Duke, @ Clemson, @ NC St, ACC Title game??
FSU... vs Duke, @ Wake, @ Pitt, vs Miami, vs N. Alabama, @ FL, ACC Title game??
tOSU... vs Penn St, @ Wisky, @ Rutgers, vs Mich St, vs Minny, @ Michigan, B10 Title game??
Penn St... @ tOSU, vs Indiana, @ Maryland, vs Michigan, vs Rutgers, @ Mich St, B10 Title game??
Michigan... @ Mich St, vs Purdue, @ Penn St, @ Maryland, vs tOSU, B10 Title game??
UW... vs ASU, @ Stanford, @ USC, vs Utah, @ OSU, vs WSU... Pac12 Title game??
Georgia... @ FL, vs Missouri, vs Ole Miss, @ UT, @ Ga Tech, SEC Title game
In the 4 team system... Liberty, Air Force, JM are nonfactors except to be undefeated and still not be invited to NY6 bowl.
It appears that Georgia is a CFP lock, even as a one loss team (in SEC title game).
FSU would be my next "lock" based on their schedule, but they are FSU and seem to have their own version of "couging it".
B10 1 loss (not sure anyone goes undefeated, but a lock if so) champ is the 3rd team
OK appears to have the next easiest path as even a rematch with Texas doesn't appear that threatening??
Unless UW goes undefeated the Pac12 has no chance. The CFP will use the old excuse that the Pac12 was so good it cannibalized itself. Even though a 1 loss, non champ B10 team might go before a 1 loss Pac12 champ! There needs to be an ACC & B12 upset or two. But, honestly I do not see UW going undefeated, so I think a Pac12 entry is a moot point unless several upsets happen??
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 19, 2023 11:06:23 GMT -8
James Madison is not bowl-eligible as a transitional FBS school.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 19, 2023 11:38:03 GMT -8
James Madison is not bowl-eligible as a transitional FBS school. That really blows for them. You'd think FBS teams wouldn't restrict incoming FCS teams from bowl participation. Is that a NCAA thing or a Sun Belt rule? |
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Post by p8nted on Oct 19, 2023 12:07:32 GMT -8
James Madison is not bowl-eligible as a transitional FBS school. That really blows for them. You'd think FBS teams wouldn't restrict incoming FCS teams from bowl participation. Is that a NCAA thing or a Sun Belt rule? NCAA. They appealed and just lost that appeal. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 19, 2023 12:14:54 GMT -8
James Madison is not bowl-eligible as a transitional FBS school. That really blows for them. You'd think FBS teams wouldn't restrict incoming FCS teams from bowl participation. Is that a NCAA thing or a Sun Belt rule? That is an everyone rule. James Madison from the Sun Belt and Jacksonville State and Sam Houston from Conference USA are all bowl ineligible this year. Arizona State self-imposed a bowl band. Sam Houston is 0-7, so I do not believe that it would matter. UMass is 1-7 and is also already bowl ineligible, unless they win out, and the bowls finish a couple of teams short. 128 bowl-eligible teams left. I believe that the new FBS teams can qualify for a waiver, but I do not know the logistics there. James Madison travels to Marshall tonight on an extremely short week. And then they have the big trip down to Atlanta to play Georgia State. I do not foresee that they will remain undefeated, but you would not think that they would both travel to and beat both Utah State and Virginia either. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 19, 2023 16:12:32 GMT -8
James Madison is not bowl-eligible as a transitional FBS school. That really blows for them. You'd think FBS teams wouldn't restrict incoming FCS teams from bowl participation. Is that a NCAA thing or a Sun Belt rule? It's an academic thing. All of your athletes have to have been admitted under FCS academic rules, so there is a four-year transition period while those recruited under FCS standards filter through. I can sort of understand it when you are playing for an official NCAA title. However, there is no NCAA title for FBS. Bowl games for the most part are meaningless exhibitions and JMU would not be hurting anyone by being able to participate. The transition rules probably cost NDSU three or four FCS titles. They were clearly the best team after moving up from DII but were ineligible for the playoffs. |
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Post by korculabeav on Oct 19, 2023 17:20:59 GMT -8
11 undefeated programs left. ACC - UNC and FSU BIG12 - Oklahoma BIG10 - tOSU, Michigan and PSU PAC - UW SEC - Georgia USA - Liberty MWC - Air Force Sun Belt - James MadisonBiggest matchup this week is #7 PSU at #3 tOSU. I'm guessing this game doesn't affect the rankings much, in the short term, for the Beavs. #17 TN at #11 Bamba should clarify something, if TN wins they may jump us for reasons. #16 Duke at #4 FSU, cheering for Duke! Utah heads to LA in what could be a weird one. Utah has limited offense and great defense, USC has impressive offense (well they have impressive Williams) and a high school defense. I think Utah makes mincemeat of the condoms protection getting to Williams. Either way this Utah has a shot to hand SC it's first conference loss. Still dumbest NCAA rule of all time that JMU is bowl ineligible because teams who come up from fcs to fbs have to wait 2 years. Someone explain the merits of that idiotic rule. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Oct 19, 2023 17:28:55 GMT -8
11 undefeated programs left. ACC - UNC and FSU BIG12 - Oklahoma BIG10 - tOSU, Michigan and PSU PAC - UW SEC - Georgia USA - Liberty MWC - Air Force Sun Belt - James MadisonBiggest matchup this week is #7 PSU at #3 tOSU. I'm guessing this game doesn't affect the rankings much, in the short term, for the Beavs. #17 TN at #11 Bamba should clarify something, if TN wins they may jump us for reasons. #16 Duke at #4 FSU, cheering for Duke! Utah heads to LA in what could be a weird one. Utah has limited offense and great defense, USC has impressive offense (well they have impressive Williams) and a high school defense. I think Utah makes mincemeat of the condoms protection getting to Williams. Either way this Utah has a shot to hand SC it's first conference loss. Still dumbest NCAA rule of all time that JMU is bowl ineligible because teams who come up from fcs to fbs have to wait 2 years. Someone explain the merits of that idiotic rule. Some of the guys on the team might be dummies who don't go to class. That doesn't happen at FBS schools! |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 19, 2023 17:33:16 GMT -8
11 undefeated programs left. ACC - UNC and FSU BIG12 - Oklahoma BIG10 - tOSU, Michigan and PSU PAC - UW SEC - Georgia USA - Liberty MWC - Air Force Sun Belt - James MadisonBiggest matchup this week is #7 PSU at #3 tOSU. I'm guessing this game doesn't affect the rankings much, in the short term, for the Beavs. #17 TN at #11 Bamba should clarify something, if TN wins they may jump us for reasons. #16 Duke at #4 FSU, cheering for Duke! Utah heads to LA in what could be a weird one. Utah has limited offense and great defense, USC has impressive offense (well they have impressive Williams) and a high school defense. I think Utah makes mincemeat of the condoms protection getting to Williams. Either way this Utah has a shot to hand SC it's first conference loss. Still dumbest NCAA rule of all time that JMU is bowl ineligible because teams who come up from fcs to fbs have to wait 2 years. Someone explain the merits of that idiotic rule. Henry's explanation makes sense. A lot of their players potentially didn't meet the academic standards of FBS schools. Rather than kick kids out when schools move up, let 'em play. After 2 years they're likely up to academic snuff or gone. Seems much more fair than I originally thought. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 19, 2023 18:08:15 GMT -8
Still dumbest NCAA rule of all time that JMU is bowl ineligible because teams who come up from fcs to fbs have to wait 2 years. Someone explain the merits of that idiotic rule. Henry's explanation makes sense. A lot of their players potentially didn't meet the academic standards of FBS schools. Rather than kick kids out when schools move up, let 'em play. After 2 years they're likely up to academic snuff or gone. Seems much more fair than I originally thought. Wait, so if the FCS Ivy League wants to move up and actually compete in bowl games, we should make them wait 2 years to see if their players are morons or not? |
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Post by TheGlove on Oct 19, 2023 18:10:34 GMT -8
Henry's explanation makes sense. A lot of their players potentially didn't meet the academic standards of FBS schools. Rather than kick kids out when schools move up, let 'em play. After 2 years they're likely up to academic snuff or gone. Seems much more fair than I originally thought. Wait, so if the FCS Ivy League wants to move up and actually compete in bowl games, we should make them wait 2 years to see if their players are morons or not? yes, why would they get preferential treatment? |
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 19, 2023 18:32:08 GMT -8
Wait, so if the FCS Ivy League wants to move up and actually compete in bowl games, we should make them wait 2 years to see if their players are morons or not? yes, why would they get preferential treatment? Because they have rich asshole parents? |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 19, 2023 19:47:45 GMT -8
Henry's explanation makes sense. A lot of their players potentially didn't meet the academic standards of FBS schools. Rather than kick kids out when schools move up, let 'em play. After 2 years they're likely up to academic snuff or gone. Seems much more fair than I originally thought. Wait, so if the FCS Ivy League wants to move up and actually compete in bowl games, we should make them wait 2 years to see if their players are morons or not? The Ivy League doesn't even permit its teams to play in the FCS playoffs. So 1, that's not going to happen, and 2, if it did, then yes. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 20, 2023 14:04:36 GMT -8
Wait, so if the FCS Ivy League wants to move up and actually compete in bowl games, we should make them wait 2 years to see if their players are morons or not? The Ivy League doesn't even permit its teams to play in the FCS playoffs. So 1, that's not going to happen, and 2, if it did, then yes. The Ivy League also does not permit its members to offer athletic scholarships in football. Any Ivy League university would basically have to transition to become a full FCS member before they became an FBS university. |
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