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Post by bvrbooster on Oct 16, 2023 11:22:01 GMT -8
I think we wanted the Scmucks to win from a strategic perspective. I'm guessing the odds are we have a better chance of beating UW at our house, than winning in Eugene. And if UW lost to UO and then us, we have the two loss tie breaker over them, and a possible spot in Pac-12 championship. Now if we beat UW they could be a one-loss team and if we lose to Ducks we become a two loss team watching UO and UW play again.] We need to beat UW and UO now to get in.
You come to the wrong conclusion, though. Washington's win over Oregon makes the Civil War far more important than the Washington game; whereas, if Oregon had defeated Washington, the reverse would be true. That would have been an awful perfunctory Civil War to set up the Civil War that matters in Vegas.
The scenario that you set up, though, would be a Civil War to play Washington in the rematch in Vegas.
Still a lot of football to be played, though, so we'll see.Regarding Vegas, you guys seem to be forgetting that USC is still undefeated in conference. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 16, 2023 12:08:59 GMT -8
I was trying to figure out what you were talking about, but I believe that you are correct. It should be easier to beat Washington in Corvallis than Oregon in Eugene. None of the other teams are likely to finish with fewer than two losses, although it is still possible.
You come to the wrong conclusion, though. Washington's win over Oregon makes the Civil War far more important than the Washington game; whereas, if Oregon had defeated Washington, the reverse would be true. That would have been an awful perfunctory Civil War to set up the Civil War that matters in Vegas.
The scenario that you set up, though, would be a Civil War to play Washington in the rematch in Vegas.
Still a lot of football to be played, though, so we'll see. Regarding Vegas, you guys seem to be forgetting that USC is still undefeated in conference. USC had the earliest bye of any team (September 16th!). They have played four games of nine straight, winning the first three and then losing the fourth. USC's remaining schedule is Utah, @ Cal (fresh off of Cal's bye), Washington, @ Oregon, and UCLA. So, you have a relatively fresh Utah coming to the Coliseum to play a USC in week five of nine straight, a completely fresh Cal after their bye in Berkeley against USC in week six, Washington after Arizona State and @ Stanford in week four of seven straight against USC in week seven, Oregon after @ Utah and Cal in week five of seven straight against USC in week eight, and UCLA after @ Stanford, Colorado, @ Arizona, and Arizona State in week seven of eight straight against USC in week nine. If USC loses fewer than three of those games, my hats are off to them. They earned it. However, I think that you would need to see a drastically improved USC from the one that we just saw in South Bend, and they do not ever have a week off to retool. Personally, I hope they lose every game from here on out, because they are scum. USC is the last of the teams that I would want to see in Vegas playing Oregon State or anybody else for that matter. I am not forgetting that USC is still undefeated in conference. I am projecting that that will change and will change both drastically and immediately beginning with Utah and continuing throughout the remaining weeks. If it does not change, I will reevaluate my projection. |
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Post by kersting13 on Oct 17, 2023 16:51:01 GMT -8
That end-of-half decision reminded me a little bit of the 2021 AFCCG where the Chiefs were completely dominating the Bengals in the first half. Had the ball at the 1-yard line with 5 seconds left and Mahomes convinced Reid to allow him a shot at the end zone: A quick pass into the end zone was the only viable play to preserve a chance at the FG, but Mahomes threw a pass to the flat to Tyreek Hill who got stuffed. Instead of taking momentum and a 24-10 lead into halftime, they gave a HUGE boost to the Bengals defense who went on to dominate the Chiefs in the 2nd half.
I just thought that getting within 1 point of UW on a FG with a full half to play could have saved some of that momentum for hole. I think the momentum shift of their defense stopping them would be worth a lot more than their offense would gain by scoring the TD there.
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 17, 2023 17:59:11 GMT -8
If he kicks the first two, there is no 4th qtr decision. Oregon would lead by 10... right?
He simply blew it. It that kind of matchup you get as many sure points as you can.
Unless of course he doesn't truly believe in his own highly touted D??
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Post by sessbeav on Oct 18, 2023 15:19:29 GMT -8
If you go by Massey ratings, they give Beavs 32% chance at Oregon, 46% vs Washington (FWIW - 91% Stanford, 80% Colorado, 70% Arizona). Zona seems way too high to me... UW favored in remainder of their games (their road games vs USC/OSU will be the tough ones on the schedule) Oregon favored rest of the way but have a tough road game at Utah. USC has Utah, Washington, Oregon, UCLA on the schedule. That might be 3-4 losses. With all of that said, Just Win Baby!!! So, question for the board - does hole come out in Rice Eccles Stadium with their hair on fire, or does Utah do to Oregon what they have done to many opponents in the past? Utah may be hurting on offense, but their defense is still pretty good. Here's to hoping they are looking down the road to USC and playing us!  OR.........just hear me out (at least those that came from the old scout boards)....... could this hole loss to UW signal the return of the FAAAAAADDDDDDDEEEEE? Maybe the hole returns to thier old ways,,,,,,? |
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Post by orangeattack on Oct 25, 2023 12:06:15 GMT -8
So, question for the board - does hole come out in Rice Eccles Stadium with their hair on fire, or does Utah do to Oregon what they have done to many opponents in the past? Utah may be hurting on offense, but their defense is still pretty good. Here's to hoping they are looking down the road to USC and playing us! OR.........just hear me out (at least those that came from the old scout boards)....... could this hole loss to UW signal the return of the FAAAAAADDDDDDDEEEEE? Maybe the hole returns to thier old ways,,,,,,? One can hope. |
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