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Post by grackle on Oct 5, 2023 9:55:03 GMT -8
IMO, the Beavs+Cougs are very likely to (i) collect a LOT of $$$ in the next couple of years under existing TV contracts AND (ii) be well positioned to win an anti-trust/collusion lawsuit against the combined entities of FOX+ESPN+ other conferences.
If, either or both (i) or (ii) above are about to, or have, eventuated, you can bet that a number of parties are going to approach the PAC2(!) to settle things out of court and quietly and quickly...and be likely to offer OSU/WSU conditions and/or situations far better than anyone here could imagine at this point. Perhaps the very best thing to do right now is bide our time and see who comes calling. Ironically, we may well be in the catbird seat...best to play our cards close to the vest and act slowly and wisely....
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 5, 2023 10:28:36 GMT -8
The next 40 days are so are probably going to be full of backroom discussions we're not privvy to.
Not sure about the collusion aspect of it, but there could be some kind of favorable settlement by the November 14th trial date - or not.
Interesting times.
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Post by grayman on Oct 5, 2023 11:13:38 GMT -8
IMO, the Beavs+Cougs are very likely to (i) collect a LOT of $$$ in the next couple of years under existing TV contracts AND (ii) be well positioned to win an anti-trust/collusion lawsuit against the combined entities of FOX+ESPN+ other conferences. If, either or both (i) or (ii) above are about to, or have, eventuated, you can bet that a number of parties are going to approach the PAC2(!) to settle things out of court and quietly and quickly... and be likely to offer OSU/WSU conditions and/or situations far better than anyone here could imagine at this point. Perhaps the very best thing to do right now is bide our time and see who comes calling. Ironically, we may well be in the catbird seat...best to play our cards close to the vest and act slowly and wisely.... This. I've mentioned this (more like hinted at it) several times but never really focused on how much of an impact it could make on the future of OSU and WSU. It's also another reason why I believe the Pac-2/MWC would be more about settling for that situation out of a need to do so (if none of the above -- or most of it -- does not come to pass), not because it's the best option. |
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Post by fishwrapper on Oct 5, 2023 11:40:56 GMT -8
Patience is often rewarded with a more favorable outcome than rushing in...
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 5, 2023 11:55:13 GMT -8
IMO, the Beavs+Cougs are very likely to (i) collect a LOT of $$$ in the next couple of years under existing TV contracts AND (ii) be well positioned to win an anti-trust/collusion lawsuit against the combined entities of FOX+ESPN+ other conferences. If, either or both (i) or (ii) above are about to, or have, eventuated, you can bet that a number of parties are going to approach the PAC2(!) to settle things out of court and quietly and quickly...and be likely to offer OSU/WSU conditions and/or situations far better than anyone here could imagine at this point. Perhaps the very best thing to do right now is bide our time and see who comes calling. Ironically, we may well be in the catbird seat...best to play our cards close to the vest and act slowly and wisely.... One's eyebrow does raise when you realize that the morning Oregon and Washington were set to walk in and sign a GOR with Apple, Fox suddenly comes up with some $60-70M dollars on the spot to bring in Oregon and UW and tells the Big10 to get them. Is there grounds for a collusion lawsuit? I dunno, I am just a rando on the internet. Is it clear Fox interfered with a contract negotiation with Apple in the 11th hour to kill that deal, prevent a prominent streaming service from having college games that millions of people would watch take off, and by effect, kill a conference in the process? Yes, it is very clear they did that. |
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Post by sparty on Oct 5, 2023 11:58:12 GMT -8
If we don't get a football schedule put together soon we will be playing Eastern Oregon, Portland State, WSU and whomever has bye weeks in 2025. Gotta get off the duff fast here.
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Post by beavs6 on Oct 5, 2023 12:53:34 GMT -8
If we don't get a football schedule put together soon we will be playing Eastern Oregon, Portland State, WSU and whomever has bye weeks in 2025. Gotta get off the duff fast here. Completely incorrect. No reason to rush. There has already been indications that there is some sort of "partnership"(my word) with MW to work on scheduling. Why try to stoke a fire that doesn't need to have fuel added to it? Nice try though. Go Spartans! Go Tucker! |
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Post by sparty on Oct 5, 2023 18:00:27 GMT -8
If we don't get a football schedule put together soon we will be playing Eastern Oregon, Portland State, WSU and whomever has bye weeks in 2025. Gotta get off the duff fast here. Completely incorrect. No reason to rush. There has already been indications that there is some sort of "partnership"(my word) with MW to work on scheduling. Why try to stoke a fire that doesn't need to have fuel added to it? Nice try though. Go Spartans! Go Tucker! If you have inside knowledge of joining the MWC please share. The MWC will join the Pac and we will work on scheduling from this end. Not the other way around unless you gave up on the Pac rebuild scenario. If so then you have little faith. |
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Post by beavs6 on Oct 5, 2023 18:45:16 GMT -8
JHC
I just googled MWC/PAC12 scheduling and got a bazzlion (exaggeration) hits for a potential scheduling alliance.(no inside knowledge necessary). I never said anything about a merger. Grow up and have an adult conversation. Scheduling Alliance is NOT a merger. Stop exaggerating and spreading fear. Putting together a schedule for next year is not akin to unlocking the code to the cure for cancer. I have complete faith. Go back to East Lansing
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Post by bvrbooster on Oct 5, 2023 18:49:01 GMT -8
If we don't get a football schedule put together soon we will be playing Eastern Oregon, Portland State, WSU and whomever has bye weeks in 2025. Gotta get off the duff fast here. Completely incorrect. No reason to rush. There has already been indications that there is some sort of "partnership"(my word) with MW to work on scheduling. Why try to stoke a fire that doesn't need to have fuel added to it? Nice try though. Go Spartans! Go Tucker! I've been saying this for weeks. We can form a partnership or alliance with the MWC for 2024 - '25, and schedule their teams without being a part of their conference or being eligible for the conference championship. Might complicate things for the postseason for a year, but that's really a small price to pay to make sure we get it right. In football, the MWC only plays an 8 game conference schedule, so 4 OOC games. The PAC could help them buy out 18 of the lesser ones to provide a 9 game schedule for WSU and us. This keeps the PAC conference alive, and collecting and distributing money, for another full year and firmly establishes OSU and WSU as the only schools entitled to payouts after 8/1/24. Understand, this is just talking out loud, like everybody else is doing. I have no idea what is being considered or discussed; neither do you. I just think we can hold the line on the lawsuit, and somehow, we'll have a viable schedule next year. |
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Post by beavaristotle on Oct 5, 2023 19:00:55 GMT -8
IMO, the Beavs+Cougs are very likely to (i) collect a LOT of $$$ in the next couple of years under existing TV contracts AND (ii) be well positioned to win an anti-trust/collusion lawsuit against the combined entities of FOX+ESPN+ other conferences. If, either or both (i) or (ii) above are about to, or have, eventuated, you can bet that a number of parties are going to approach the PAC2(!) to settle things out of court and quietly and quickly...and be likely to offer OSU/WSU conditions and/or situations far better than anyone here could imagine at this point. Perhaps the very best thing to do right now is bide our time and see who comes calling. Ironically, we may well be in the catbird seat...best to play our cards close to the vest and act slowly and wisely.... great points. I think if there is all the sudden a forthcoming offer to join one of the power 4 conferences, the question WHY must be asked. Nothing has changed on our end, still small towns with small media footprints. So has something changed on their end ? For them to offer after all time would tip their position. If we have those bitches by the ball and they know it. Then it’s time for revenge. They tried to ruin our program, so f… them |
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Post by p8nted on Oct 6, 2023 15:52:13 GMT -8
If we don't get a football schedule put together soon we will be playing Eastern Oregon, Portland State, WSU and whomever has bye weeks in 2025. Gotta get off the duff fast here. Completely incorrect. No reason to rush. There has already been indications that there is some sort of "partnership"(my word) with MW to work on scheduling. Why try to stoke a fire that doesn't need to have fuel added to it? Nice try though. Go Spartans! Go Tucker! No agreement to a merger of some kind with the MWC then no scheduling agreement is possible |
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Post by beavs6 on Oct 6, 2023 15:55:07 GMT -8
Completely incorrect. No reason to rush. There has already been indications that there is some sort of "partnership"(my word) with MW to work on scheduling. Why try to stoke a fire that doesn't need to have fuel added to it? Nice try though. Go Spartans! Go Tucker! No agreement to a merger of some kind with the MWC than no scheduling agreement is possible Ok. Your opinion or do you have a source to link? |
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Post by p8nted on Oct 6, 2023 15:57:16 GMT -8
No agreement to a merger of some kind with the MWC than no scheduling agreement is possible Ok. Your opinion or do you have a source to link? Logic. Why would they do that? Takes away the only leverage they have for a possible merger. Would be stupid on their part |
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Post by cake on Oct 6, 2023 17:19:15 GMT -8
Ok. Your opinion or do you have a source to link? Logic. Why would they do that? Takes away the only leverage they have for a possible merger. Would be stupid on their part Having Oregon State and Wazzu on the schedule for a couple of years, say 8 games each for 2 years, that's a lot of extra views and attention. The Mountain West teams love when they get to play Pac 12 teams. |
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