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Post by hottubbeaver on Sept 26, 2023 10:12:27 GMT -8
Even if the projections for increased revenues in a 12 team playoff end up half of the projection given, the point is still the same. There's a couple reasons to think we still hold a big stack at the table.
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Post by castorcanadensis on Sept 26, 2023 10:30:45 GMT -8
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Post by grayman on Sept 26, 2023 11:18:20 GMT -8
Was just going to post this...pretty interesting and makes sense but a few big ifs involved.
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Post by avidbeaver on Sept 26, 2023 11:33:02 GMT -8
Explains why the Pac 2 wants clarity on control of assets. At least as far as what is left to the Pac 2.
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Post by beavaristotle on Sept 26, 2023 11:44:40 GMT -8
Explains why the Pac 2 wants clarity on control of assets. At least as far as what is left to the Pac 2. part of the assets in question are the 300-350 million dollars that the CFP owes the Pac 12 (2) for the next two years. If the 2 schools keep the Pac alive and are judged to be the only legitimate members that money is theirs
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Post by 93beav on Sept 26, 2023 13:14:50 GMT -8
IF this is really true - and keep in mind "Immaculate" is just another fan as far as I know (I've seen him on another web guy's show) - it makes it very interesting as to the next step. If you wisely invest ~$150 million, you could be looking at $7-$10 million a year. Maybe you reverse-merge the MWC, get a $10 million dollar media deal and take the extra $7 million for yourself. If $$$=wins, then you'd have a better shot to the best of the G5 playoff spot.
One thing I really hope they'd do is take $2-$3 million a year and commit it to "NIL" for men/women's basketball and baseball. They did say last year it would take around $1 million to "fund" a quality basketball team. We might be able to get that investment back with NCAA Tourney credits.
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 26, 2023 13:20:17 GMT -8
IF this is really true - and keep in mind "Immaculate" is just another fan as far as I know (I've seen him on another web guy's show) - it makes it very interesting as to the next step. If you wisely invest ~$150 million, you could be looking at $7-$10 million a year. Maybe you reverse-merge the MWC, get a $10 million dollar media deal and take the extra $7 million for yourself. If $$$=wins, then you'd have a better shot to the best of the G5 playoff spot. One thing I really hope they'd do is take $2-$3 million a year and commit it to "NIL" for men/women's basketball and baseball. They did say last year it would take around $1 million to "fund" a quality basketball team. We might be able to get that investment back with NCAA Tourney credits. That would be illegal. The university cannot have anything to do with NIL.
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Post by nabeav on Sept 26, 2023 14:08:41 GMT -8
I think if we're trying to entice the top schools from other conferences to join us, we aren't going to able to just pocket all of that CFP money. It's going to have to be used to facilitate moves most likely, particularly if we aren't offering an increased media deal to prospective schools.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 26, 2023 14:27:45 GMT -8
IF this is really true - and keep in mind "Immaculate" is just another fan as far as I know (I've seen him on another web guy's show) - it makes it very interesting as to the next step. If you wisely invest ~$150 million, you could be looking at $7-$10 million a year. Maybe you reverse-merge the MWC, get a $10 million dollar media deal and take the extra $7 million for yourself. If $$$=wins, then you'd have a better shot to the best of the G5 playoff spot. One thing I really hope they'd do is take $2-$3 million a year and commit it to "NIL" for men/women's basketball and baseball. They did say last year it would take around $1 million to "fund" a quality basketball team. We might be able to get that investment back with NCAA Tourney credits. That would be illegal. The university cannot have anything to do with NIL. I am amazed that people continue to get this wrong.
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Post by ag87 on Sept 26, 2023 15:24:25 GMT -8
From OSU and WSU'S perspective, the B10 makes much more sense. Two northwest rivals and a total of six west coast teams. Travel doesn't matter for football. For every other sport, maybe half the extra costs disappear. I'm sure the bean counters in Seattle and Eugene want this. To the marketeers, the ego blow may be fatal.
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Sept 26, 2023 15:40:57 GMT -8
If it plays out the way that guy says, Cal and Stanford will look even dumber, if that's possible.
I don't think we should schedule those schools if for no other reason than their STUPID might rub off.
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Post by speakthetruth on Sept 26, 2023 15:45:24 GMT -8
That would be illegal. The university cannot have anything to do with NIL. I am amazed that people continue to get this wrong. OK supposedly the university, athletic department, coaches can't have anything to do with NIL. So how does the collective know which recruit needs some enticement? Say a school is targeting two QBs and the coaches prefer one over the other. How does the collective know which one to pursue unless the coaches are feeding the collective info. Or isn't that illegal? Can a school give money to a collective and then the collective gives money to a player/recruit.
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Post by hottubbeaver on Sept 26, 2023 16:00:38 GMT -8
From OSU and WSU'S perspective, the B10 makes much more sense. Two northwest rivals and a total of six west coast teams. Travel doesn't matter for football. For every other sport, maybe half the extra costs disappear. I'm sure the bean counters in Seattle and Eugene want this. To the marketeers, the ego blow may be fatal. I personally am still leaning towards we try to make a renewed PAC after we win in court. Is the long term future of the B12 all that more secure? It may look ok in the short term, but seems it would be the the least likely to survive future "realignments". Traveling two time zones away to the B1G seems impractical for so many reasons outside of 4 or 5 football games a year.. "If" the gist of the points made in this video are correct, and we win in court, then we would control some serious revenue streams and could use to potentially attract a UU, ASU, and UofA back, something I think the B12 is seriously concerned about right now, and then form a partnership with the MWC, and N.D. for schedule filling and we could have a viable and legitimate P5 way forward that's mostly sill regional.
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Post by 93beav on Sept 26, 2023 16:11:45 GMT -8
IF this is really true - and keep in mind "Immaculate" is just another fan as far as I know (I've seen him on another web guy's show) - it makes it very interesting as to the next step. If you wisely invest ~$150 million, you could be looking at $7-$10 million a year. Maybe you reverse-merge the MWC, get a $10 million dollar media deal and take the extra $7 million for yourself. If $$$=wins, then you'd have a better shot to the best of the G5 playoff spot. One thing I really hope they'd do is take $2-$3 million a year and commit it to "NIL" for men/women's basketball and baseball. They did say last year it would take around $1 million to "fund" a quality basketball team. We might be able to get that investment back with NCAA Tourney credits. That would be illegal. The university cannot have anything to do with NIL. Actually, they can have something to do with NIL. You are correct, they can't pay a player directly, but they can coordinate with booster collectives.
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Post by sparty on Sept 26, 2023 16:29:31 GMT -8
That would be illegal. The university cannot have anything to do with NIL. Actually, they can have something to do with NIL. You are correct, they can't pay a player directly, but they can coordinate with booster collectives. I think what he is saying there are ways to cheat. Just got to be creative because everyone is doing it. We need to start bend the rules anyway we can because this is the only way we can survive. Gotta change our ways from here on out. If it takes back room deals like the SEC is known for then do it.
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