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Post by beavaristotle on Aug 18, 2023 16:49:37 GMT -8
Somebody needs to tell Stanford that nobody gives a crap about college tennis and diving. Well except for the contestant and the parents and possibly the boyfriend or girlfriend. what’s the difference between a Stanford graduate and god ? God doesn’t think he is a Stanford grad |
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Post by NativeBeav on Aug 18, 2023 17:04:29 GMT -8
I always knew the huskies were bitc##s. I prefer leg humpers myself - but bitches works as well........ |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 18, 2023 17:10:39 GMT -8
There's been articles about the UW coach hating the idea of streaming, almost a non-starter. Add that to the UW president stating the Friday they skipped the Grant of Rights meeting something to the effect that Apple even offered them a 3 year out, so Apple itself didn't think it would work. I'm not giving uo a pass though, there were several rumors that UW was just following their decision. It's not that Apple didn't think it would work. It has been pretty well known that uw/uo didn't want a GOR that would tie them down long term in case the B1G ever decided to expand again. In my mind, it was Apple trying to placate them with a deal they could get out of early if they really liked the B1G, under the suspicion by that point in time, they'd see how good the Apple deal was and if it wasn't, no worries. But the uw admins want to CYA everything so they don't look like the humungous farts they are and so they turned that argument back around on them. True, I was not in the room, I don't know for sure what uw was thinking. But sans a $100 million dollar deal, I haven't heard one iota of uo/uw every saying they wanted to be locked in long-term w/ a GOR w/ the PAC12. I've heard the rumors about whom to blame on both sides but it sure sounded like uw was the one who wanted to move because they had some budget concerns, etc. etc. It's hard to tell because the arrogance level of both of them is so high it's plausible for either. Stanford is giving them a run for their money on arrogance, though, so... Yeah, I'm pretty sure UW's president was saying anything he could to use as cover for his decision. The moment I read it that day, I thought he was a blowhard that was trying to justify his decision by distorting the intent of the opt out offer. In my ideal world, OSU and WSU somehow save the PAC on their own and Apple keeps the deal offer and the new league manages to pick 3-5 million or more subscribers within a couple years.... and those who left could cry in their Wheaties for years. |
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Post by alexm on Aug 18, 2023 17:48:45 GMT -8
Somebody needs to tell Stanford that nobody gives a crap about college tennis and diving. Well except for the contestant and the parents and possibly the boyfriend or girlfriend. Yes but then how would rich kids get in school? |
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Post by fridaynightlights on Aug 18, 2023 18:05:10 GMT -8
It's not that Apple didn't think it would work. It has been pretty well known that uw/uo didn't want a GOR that would tie them down long term in case the B1G ever decided to expand again. In my mind, it was Apple trying to placate them with a deal they could get out of early if they really liked the B1G, under the suspicion by that point in time, they'd see how good the Apple deal was and if it wasn't, no worries. But the uw admins want to CYA everything so they don't look like the humungous farts they are and so they turned that argument back around on them. True, I was not in the room, I don't know for sure what uw was thinking. But sans a $100 million dollar deal, I haven't heard one iota of uo/uw every saying they wanted to be locked in long-term w/ a GOR w/ the PAC12. I've heard the rumors about whom to blame on both sides but it sure sounded like uw was the one who wanted to move because they had some budget concerns, etc. etc. It's hard to tell because the arrogance level of both of them is so high it's plausible for either. Stanford is giving them a run for their money on arrogance, though, so... Yeah, I'm pretty sure UW's president was saying anything he could to use as cover for his decision. The moment I read it that day, I thought he was a blowhard that was trying to justify his decision by distorting the intent of the opt out offer. In my ideal world, OSU and WSU somehow save the PAC on their own and Apple keeps the deal offer and the new league manages to pick 3-5 million or more subscribers within a couple years.... and those who left could cry in their Wheaties for years. UW's president is a woman, Ana Mari Cauce |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 18, 2023 18:30:03 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm pretty sure UW's president was saying anything he could to use as cover for his decision. The moment I read it that day, I thought he was a blowhard that was trying to justify his decision by distorting the intent of the opt out offer. In my ideal world, OSU and WSU somehow save the PAC on their own and Apple keeps the deal offer and the new league manages to pick 3-5 million or more subscribers within a couple years.... and those who left could cry in their Wheaties for years. UW's president is a woman, Ana Mari Cauce I stand corrected on the gender. She was quoted in several articles. |
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 18, 2023 19:51:06 GMT -8
I commented that uncle phil won't allow stanford wallow in the pac4 pit. And he is not the only donor willing to buy their way out. f%#* uncle Phil Unless he's helping pay Pat Casey. |
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 18, 2023 19:53:00 GMT -8
It sounds like Washington didn't like the Apple deal and poisoned Oregon on it. If Washington had stayed, you would still have at least eight (and probably nine) teams in the Pac-12, a GOR, and a great contract, a better contract than the five who left settled for, with a higher ceiling. UCLA and USC started the fire, but Washington was the school that decided to dump gas on it. Any evidence of this? Or just hearsay and speculation? Only thing we know (I think) is that uw and uo didn't show up for the meeting to approve the deal... I would like to know for fact what the two schools asking for $50M were. We can speculate all day..but would like to know for sure who it was Yes. The latest big article is that UW bailed, while Oregon was amenable to the Apple TV deal. Until they weren't. www.latimes.com/sports/story/2023-08-16/pac-12-collapse-decisions-realignment-ucla-oregon |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 18, 2023 19:57:21 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm pretty sure UW's president was saying anything he could to use as cover for his decision. The moment I read it that day, I thought he was a blowhard that was trying to justify his decision by distorting the intent of the opt out offer. In my ideal world, OSU and WSU somehow save the PAC on their own and Apple keeps the deal offer and the new league manages to pick 3-5 million or more subscribers within a couple years.... and those who left could cry in their Wheaties for years. UW's president is a woman, Ana Mari Cauce Here was my rundown of the 12 Pac-12 Presidents back on January 7, 2022. It is also a great thread about how ATown and I were canaries in a coal mine about our reservations about George K and a bunch of other people jumping in to defend George K. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 18, 2023 19:59:40 GMT -8
Any evidence of this? Or just hearsay and speculation? Only thing we know (I think) is that uw and uo didn't show up for the meeting to approve the deal... I would like to know for fact what the two schools asking for $50M were. We can speculate all day..but would like to know for sure who it was Yes. The latest big article is that UW bailed, while Oregon was amenable to the Apple TV deal. Until they weren't. www.latimes.com/sports/story/2023-08-16/pac-12-collapse-decisions-realignment-ucla-oregonYeah, I think that Oregon was on board, and I think that Arizona either was on board or realized that Arizona State was never going to leave and was going to force Arizona to stay. And then Washington poisoned Oregon into leaving and then Arizona convinced Arizona State and Utah to leave. And now we're right here, trying to figure our way out of Washington's selfish and self-defeating idiocy. |
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 18, 2023 20:54:00 GMT -8
Yeah, I think that Oregon was on board, and I think that Arizona either was on board or realized that Arizona State was never going to leave and was going to force Arizona to stay. And then Washington poisoned Oregon into leaving and then Arizona convinced Arizona State and Utah to leave. And now we're right here, trying to figure our way out of Washington's selfish and self-defeating idiocy. I think the truth is in between. Oregon and UW were paired up regardless. I mean they *could* have stayed, but losing their hated rival was the straw that broke the camel's back? If it was that easy I have a hard time believing they were really on board with the Apple deal. /shrug It's like someone offering me a free beer "poisoning" me. It's half way down before you finished the sentence. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 18, 2023 22:41:53 GMT -8
Yeah, I think that Oregon was on board, and I think that Arizona either was on board or realized that Arizona State was never going to leave and was going to force Arizona to stay. And then Washington poisoned Oregon into leaving and then Arizona convinced Arizona State and Utah to leave. And now we're right here, trying to figure our way out of Washington's selfish and self-defeating idiocy. I think the truth is in between. Oregon and UW were paired up regardless. I mean they *could* have stayed, but losing their hated rival was the straw that broke the camel's back? If it was that easy I have a hard time believing they were really on board with the Apple deal. /shrug It's like someone offering me a free beer "poisoning" me. It's half way down before you finished the sentence. Your final paragraph seems to be the way of it. Oregon was leaning to stay and then Washington indicated that they were strongly against staying, and Oregon went, too. |
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Post by fridaynightlights on Aug 18, 2023 23:38:06 GMT -8
Any evidence of this? Or just hearsay and speculation? Only thing we know (I think) is that uw and uo didn't show up for the meeting to approve the deal... I would like to know for fact what the two schools asking for $50M were. We can speculate all day..but would like to know for sure who it was Yes. The latest big article is that UW bailed, while Oregon was amenable to the Apple TV deal. Until they weren't. www.latimes.com/sports/story/2023-08-16/pac-12-collapse-decisions-realignment-ucla-oregonI refuse to believe that Oregon is not the main culprit for the demise of the conference of champions. Next thing you will be telling me is that they are not responsible for climate change. |
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Post by sparty on Aug 19, 2023 5:27:04 GMT -8
I refuse to believe that Oregon is not the main culprit for the demise of the conference of champions. Next thing you will be telling me is that they are not responsible for climate change. And many of you won't believe that Washington in a sense was in worse financial shape that OSU. And some to this day think that Oregon did the move for the money. Those guys are flush with cash.
I get the anger for Oregon but Washington is panicking for cash maybe more than anyone else except CAL.
"-2012 stadium renovation debt payments are $9.8 million a year. They jump to $17.7 million a year in 2026."
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Aug 19, 2023 9:29:36 GMT -8
Unless he's helping pay Pat Casey. I appreciate what Unky Phil has done for us. That said, imo, ultra wealthy donors like Phil are ruining college athletics......along with the networks, and NIL.....it has culminated in what we are currently headed towards. College football has turned into a monster that controls the entire collegiate world. So as much as I appreciate Unky Phil's contributions in the past, the whole "Hey f%#* you guys we're bailing to the B1G......but we'd still like to continue the Civil War.". It's the equivalent to breaking up with someone because you found someone better, but trying to keep them as a booty call. Am I bitter? Dam right! F em! |
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