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Post by grackle on Aug 12, 2023 7:07:09 GMT -8
.....the current reshuffling of college FB alliances will result in CFB becoming little more than a generic farm system for the NFL. The result will be the loss of regional rivalries, collegiate traditions, fan loyalties, etc. And, ultimately, I really expect that CFB will, in the not too distant future, become far less popular than it is presently. Ultimately, I expect that TV $$$ will trail off enough that there will be a trend toward reestablishment of the old associations and conferences.
Interestingly, I am hearing more and more opinions on national sports talk shows that square almost exactly with this outlook (including sports talk shows on national Fox sports radio talk shows. Remember that Fox is almost solely responsible for funding the currently developing CFB mess).
Finally, and FWIW, the sex-pervert former athletic director at USC is squarely to blame for having started this ball rolling...and I also understand that initially UCLA wanted no part of any move to the Big10. How UCLA was eventually coerced into going along with USC is an, as yet, untold story which may have little to do with decisions by the athletic administration.
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Post by Werebeaver on Aug 12, 2023 7:44:42 GMT -8
.....the current reshuffling of college FB alliances will result in CFB becoming little more than a generic farm system for the NFL. The result will be the loss of regional rivalries, collegiate traditions, fan loyalties, etc. And, ultimately, I really expect that CFB will, in the not too distant future, become far less popular than it is presently. Ultimately, I expect that TV $$$ will trail off enough that there will be a trend toward reestablishment of the old associations and conferences. Interestingly, I am hearing more and more opinions on national sports talk shows that square almost exactly with this outlook (including sports talk shows on national Fox sports radio talk shows. Remember that Fox is almost solely responsible for funding the currently developing CFB mess). Finally, and FWIW, the sex-pervert former athletic director at USC is squarely to blame for having started this ball rolling...and I also understand that initially UCLA wanted no part of any move to the Big10. How UCLA was eventually coerced into going along with USC is an, as yet, untold story which may have little to do with decisions by the athletic administration. Good for you. Your self-proclaimed brilliance is truly inspiring.  |
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Post by fridaynightlights on Aug 12, 2023 8:06:33 GMT -8
.....the current reshuffling of college FB alliances will result in CFB becoming little more than a generic farm system for the NFL. The result will be the loss of regional rivalries, collegiate traditions, fan loyalties, etc. And, ultimately, I really expect that CFB will, in the not too distant future, become far less popular than it is presently. Ultimately, I expect that TV $$$ will trail off enough that there will be a trend toward reestablishment of the old associations and conferences. Interestingly, I am hearing more and more opinions on national sports talk shows that square almost exactly with this outlook (including sports talk shows on national Fox sports radio talk shows. Remember that Fox is almost solely responsible for funding the currently developing CFB mess). Finally, and FWIW, the sex-pervert former athletic director at USC is squarely to blame for having started this ball rolling...and I also understand that initially UCLA wanted no part of any move to the Big10. How UCLA was eventually coerced into going along with USC is an, as yet, untold story which may have little to do with decisions by the athletic administration. A classic case of wishful thinking. Whenever there is significant rapid change, many people tend to long for the way things used to be, however they rarely ever return. For better or worse the way college football used to be is not coming back. |
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Post by grackle on Aug 12, 2023 11:41:53 GMT -8
.....the current reshuffling of college FB alliances will result in CFB becoming little more than a generic farm system for the NFL. The result will be the loss of regional rivalries, collegiate traditions, fan loyalties, etc. And, ultimately, I really expect that CFB will, in the not too distant future, become far less popular than it is presently. Ultimately, I expect that TV $$$ will trail off enough that there will be a trend toward reestablishment of the old associations and conferences. Interestingly, I am hearing more and more opinions on national sports talk shows that square almost exactly with this outlook (including sports talk shows on national Fox sports radio talk shows. Remember that Fox is almost solely responsible for funding the currently developing CFB mess). Finally, and FWIW, the sex-pervert former athletic director at USC is squarely to blame for having started this ball rolling...and I also understand that initially UCLA wanted no part of any move to the Big10. How UCLA was eventually coerced into going along with USC is an, as yet, untold story which may have little to do with decisions by the athletic administration. Good for you. Your self-proclaimed brilliance is truly inspiring. And your aggressive snarkiness says more about it being well past the due date for your rabies/distemper booster than it reveals about anything I'm saying. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Aug 12, 2023 11:51:13 GMT -8
Good for you. Your self-proclaimed brilliance is truly inspiring. And your aggressive snarkiness says more about it being well past the due date for your rabies/distemper booster than it reveals about anything I'm saying. Thanks🙂 |
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Post by grackle on Aug 12, 2023 11:57:39 GMT -8
And your aggressive snarkiness says more about it being well past the due date for your rabies/distemper booster than it reveals about anything I'm saying. Thanks🙂 Anytime.... |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Aug 12, 2023 13:18:01 GMT -8
Grackle, I wish I could say I think you're right, but this re-shuffling is just the beginning. Eventually, there will be an upper tier consisting of the richest schools.....below that will be everyone else, playing for a smaller trophy. We will be playing for the smaller trophy.
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Post by irimi on Aug 12, 2023 14:59:24 GMT -8
.....the current reshuffling of college FB alliances will result in CFB becoming little more than a generic farm system for the NFL. The result will be the loss of regional rivalries, collegiate traditions, fan loyalties, etc. And, ultimately, I really expect that CFB will, in the not too distant future, become far less popular than it is presently. Ultimately, I expect that TV $$$ will trail off enough that there will be a trend toward reestablishment of the old associations and conferences. Interestingly, I am hearing more and more opinions on national sports talk shows that square almost exactly with this outlook (including sports talk shows on national Fox sports radio talk shows. Remember that Fox is almost solely responsible for funding the currently developing CFB mess). Finally, and FWIW, the sex-pervert former athletic director at USC is squarely to blame for having started this ball rolling...and I also understand that initially UCLA wanted no part of any move to the Big10. How UCLA was eventually coerced into going along with USC is an, as yet, untold story which may have little to do with decisions by the athletic administration. I think your first sentence is wrong. The NFL has nothing to do with this and most likely would prefer the way things are right now as this enables quality players at smaller schools to show what they can do against premier athletes. Think of the Cal players that have to go against the Ducks, Trojans, Huskies. In the near future, we could be the only tough opponent they face. No, this is all about the golden goose. College Football has exploded in popularity over the years and they want to find a way to get more money from it all.TV deals and playoff games. |
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Post by bvrbooster on Aug 12, 2023 15:52:23 GMT -8
While I would certainly place much blame on USC, you have to go a bit further back in time. Had Oklahoma and Texas not destroyed the Big 12 by moving to the SEC, the Big 10 might not have felt they had to ruin west coast football.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Aug 12, 2023 20:49:15 GMT -8
While I would certainly place much blame on USC, you have to go a bit further back in time. Had Oklahoma and Texas not destroyed the Big 12 by moving to the SEC, the Big 10 might not have felt they had to ruin west coast football. Yea, that move got the B1G all riled up....gotta keep up with the Jones'(SEC) |
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Post by speakthetruth on Aug 12, 2023 21:28:00 GMT -8
While I would certainly place much blame on USC, you have to go a bit further back in time. Had Oklahoma and Texas not destroyed the Big 12 by moving to the SEC, the Big 10 might not have felt they had to ruin west coast football. If the usc prez hadn't f'd things up and let texas and ok into the pac12 we would all be sitting pretty. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 12, 2023 21:43:16 GMT -8
While I would certainly place much blame on USC, you have to go a bit further back in time. Had Oklahoma and Texas not destroyed the Big 12 by moving to the SEC, the Big 10 might not have felt they had to ruin west coast football. If the usc prez hadn't f'd things up and let texas and ok into the pac12 we would all be sitting pretty. Oklahoma and Texas wanted unequal shares. USC wanted unequal shares, as well. It was the other universities that shot down unequal shares and killed Oklahoma and Texas coming to the Pac-12. |
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Post by beavheart on Aug 13, 2023 8:19:30 GMT -8
If the usc prez hadn't f'd things up and let texas and ok into the pac12 we would all be sitting pretty. Oklahoma and Texas wanted unequal shares. USC wanted unequal shares, as well. It was the other universities that shot down unequal shares and killed Oklahoma and Texas coming to the Pac-12. "other universities" = who? My guess, hole and UW. The same wannabe, 2nd rate beauty queens that skated at 11:59. And folks here still want to schedule these d!(%holes. At some point it stops being an emotional response, and becomes our best self interest to not associate with organizations that screw us over at every turn. At all. Ever. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 13, 2023 10:25:31 GMT -8
Oklahoma and Texas wanted unequal shares. USC wanted unequal shares, as well. It was the other universities that shot down unequal shares and killed Oklahoma and Texas coming to the Pac-12. "other universities" = who? My guess, hole and UW. The same wannabe, 2nd rate beauty queens that skated at 11:59. And folks here still want to schedule these d!(%holes. At some point it stops being an emotional response, and becomes our best self interest to not associate with organizations that screw us over at every turn. At all. Ever. No, I believe that is why the four teams left. Equal shares meant that they were not getting compensated for what they are worth. Equal shares for unequal contribution never works, unless you already have a monopoly. |
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Post by rgeorge on Aug 13, 2023 11:50:04 GMT -8
"other universities" = who? My guess, hole and UW. The same wannabe, 2nd rate beauty queens that skated at 11:59. And folks here still want to schedule these d!(%holes. At some point it stops being an emotional response, and becomes our best self interest to not associate with organizations that screw us over at every turn. At all. Ever. No, I believe that is why the four teams left. Equal shares meant that they were not getting compensated for what they are worth. Equal shares for unequal contribution never works, unless you already have a monopoly. Other than the distain for something new as represented by the Apple deal, I've not understood why unequal distribution wasn't broached in terms of viewership #s in terms of new subscriptions?? Let's say the Apple deal was indeed increased to $25 mil/team for let's say 6 years. That is more than the current deal and with other revenue would lead to over $40 mil/team in revenue. If the Pac12 network sale to Apple, as to have a linear option, could have been negotiated in, even more revenue. If not, still at $40 mil plus. Then take into account Apple's offer of subscription incentives... have each school's payout reflect overall viewership percentages based on new subscribers. Now, I think it was UW saying something immature about having to go out a sell apples or some dumb analogy. But, a bit of local advertising, and simply scheduling high level NC opponents would increase viewership and new subscribers. Plus I am assuming not every former Pac12 household had an Apple subscription, so there would be an influx immediately. USC and UCLA were long gone, and maybe so was UW and Oregon... but, the others that left could have been kept in the fold with an amount that exceeded playing in an inferior B12 (had they stayed in the Pac). But, again... who knows the insider details and thinking of those in charge. After blowing a gimme ESPN deal earlier, that rarely had Pac12 games in prime time, and many on their lesser feeds, you'd think they would have learned their lesson. I and others here could be very wrong, but I'm betting after 2-3 seasons having to deal with travel expenses and other related travel issues some schools are going to severely regret their decisions. Just as OSU will if they take some bargain basement pit offer from the B12 now. And, so be it... you reap what you sow! |
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