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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 6, 2023 15:37:34 GMT -8
I have enough faith and trust in the coaches that they won't let it slip, and that the fanbase will respond if there is a capital expenditure we need to fund-raise for.
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Post by mbabeav on Sept 6, 2023 17:17:04 GMT -8
I think NIL is a real funding need - L$U showed us that much.
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 8, 2023 6:00:35 GMT -8
Trying to see the plus side: College sports are out of control! Perhaps this is an opportunity for OSU to return to a semblance of what college sports used to be (and should be, in my opinion). A simpler, more regional approach. OSU is not going to compete for the National Championship in football or basketball, except once in a generation/lifetime. Neither are the ducks. It is unrealistic to gear your entire program's existence and judge one's success around that goal. To dominate or be near the top in a MWC/PAC4 in nearly every sport sounds attractive. Not everything has to be national. Regional dominance and then a shot at advancing EACH year could be a lot of fun. How about being the team that every other team in the league envies? Agree with the above post - no reason baseball cannot continue to be a top national power. except when football pays for most of the money loser sports. |
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 8, 2023 6:05:02 GMT -8
I think NIL is a real funding need - L$U showed us that much. we’ll see if Omar Speights regrets his transfer decision to LSU. |
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Post by seastape on Sept 8, 2023 10:29:06 GMT -8
I think NIL is a real funding need - L$U showed us that much. we’ll see if Omar Speights regrets his transfer decision to LSU. He tied for the team lead in tackles vs. LSU this past weekend. Tough loss, but FSU may be back in the saddle again. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 8, 2023 15:28:53 GMT -8
Trying to see the plus side: College sports are out of control! Perhaps this is an opportunity for OSU to return to a semblance of what college sports used to be (and should be, in my opinion). A simpler, more regional approach. OSU is not going to compete for the National Championship in football or basketball, except once in a generation/lifetime. Neither are the ducks. It is unrealistic to gear your entire program's existence and judge one's success around that goal. To dominate or be near the top in a MWC/PAC4 in nearly every sport sounds attractive. Not everything has to be national. Regional dominance and then a shot at advancing EACH year could be a lot of fun. How about being the team that every other team in the league envies? Agree with the above post - no reason baseball cannot continue to be a top national power. except when football pays for most of the money loser sports. Baseball is close, if not completely, self-sufficient. I worry about soccer. They just got to the Elite Eight two years ago. They seemed like they might just be coming into their own. |
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Sept 19, 2023 14:44:58 GMT -8
NIL needs to be at the forefront of the Athletic department. Yes, competing regionally is all fine and dandy but not being able to compete at all on a national stage hurts the university as a whole. A move into the Mountain West or even a rebrand of the PAC is going to hurt funding and national recognition. The goal from the universities standpoint doesn't necessarily need to be national championships every year but the goal should be to stay nationally relevant. Look at the Big West Conference. Are they competitive, yes. Are they nationally recognized baseball brands like they used to be? Absolutely not. The best players want to play the best competition. So either build a hyper competitive out of conference schedule or pray a Power-4 conference scoops us up. The only other option would be to replicate what ECU and Southern Mississippi have done with their programs. Dominate the conference and have the best venue that is comparable to anywhere in the country. In my opinion OSU can replicate that even on the west coast.
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 19, 2023 16:39:38 GMT -8
NIL needs to be at the forefront of the Athletic department. Yes, competing regionally is all fine and dandy but not being able to compete at all on a national stage hurts the university as a whole. A move into the Mountain West or even a rebrand of the PAC is going to hurt funding and national recognition. The goal from the universities standpoint doesn't necessarily need to be national championships every year but the goal should be to stay nationally relevant. Look at the Big West Conference. Are they competitive, yes. Are they nationally recognized baseball brands like they used to be? Absolutely not. The best players want to play the best competition. So either build a hyper competitive out of conference schedule or pray a Power-4 conference scoops us up. The only other option would be to replicate what ECU and Southern Mississippi have done with their programs. Dominate the conference and have the best venue that is comparable to anywhere in the country. In my opinion OSU can replicate that even on the west coast. I understand your post, but... NIL is NEVER going to be at the forefront of the AD. The AD has zero to do with anything NIL. The NIL organizations are completely outside the university and AD and are independently run organizations that in many ways are at the whim of those in charge. As far as baseball, unless some folks begin a baseball specific NIL group, baseball will never be the focus of NIL dollars for the organizations that exist. And that's because baseball can't sustain the entire athletic program. As much as many of the huge baseball fans want to believe it, baseball brings some national attention, but it is a minor sport compared to football and NCAA MBB money. OSU baseball has been very successful, it is a national brand among those in the know. But, really NCAA baseball is not a big $ maker for the media, and the only time they care is the postseason. We'd all love OSU to attract the best players. But, really OSU will never, EVER, have the NIL $ to compete with many schools if that is the motivation for some of the "best" players to pick a school. And, really what the best players want is the best opportunity to play. Every D1 team has some level of great players. And, OSU has had a plethora come thru the CC/JC ranks. As far as your opening lines... OSU, the university, is not going to be hurt as an academic institution if baseball falls off the national stage. OSU represents over 32,000 students from all walks of life and baseball funds none of the academics and is a pebble on the beach in terms of OSU's national reputation. For those into athletics it is much more important, but those folks seem to forget the vast majority of students and the public are not athletic fanatics. OSU... the baseball program, and the university are not going anywhere. And, they do not have to try to keep up with the Jones's to stay relevant. Go Beavs |
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Post by rafer on Sept 20, 2023 8:27:57 GMT -8
Does anyone have a clue as to how much, in $$$, Unca Fill kicks in to the duckies NIL coffers? I'm guessing he's single handedly, literally, buying all their recruits.
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Sept 27, 2023 23:18:12 GMT -8
NIL needs to be at the forefront of the Athletic department. Yes, competing regionally is all fine and dandy but not being able to compete at all on a national stage hurts the university as a whole. A move into the Mountain West or even a rebrand of the PAC is going to hurt funding and national recognition. The goal from the universities standpoint doesn't necessarily need to be national championships every year but the goal should be to stay nationally relevant. Look at the Big West Conference. Are they competitive, yes. Are they nationally recognized baseball brands like they used to be? Absolutely not. The best players want to play the best competition. So either build a hyper competitive out of conference schedule or pray a Power-4 conference scoops us up. The only other option would be to replicate what ECU and Southern Mississippi have done with their programs. Dominate the conference and have the best venue that is comparable to anywhere in the country. In my opinion OSU can replicate that even on the west coast. I understand your post, but... NIL is NEVER going to be at the forefront of the AD. The AD has zero to do with anything NIL. The NIL organizations are completely outside the university and AD and are independently run organizations that in many ways are at the whim of those in charge. As far as baseball, unless some folks begin a baseball specific NIL group, baseball will never be the focus of NIL dollars for the organizations that exist. And that's because baseball can't sustain the entire athletic program. As much as many of the huge baseball fans want to believe it, baseball brings some national attention, but it is a minor sport compared to football and NCAA MBB money. OSU baseball has been very successful, it is a national brand among those in the know. But, really NCAA baseball is not a big $ maker for the media, and the only time they care is the postseason. We'd all love OSU to attract the best players. But, really OSU will never, EVER, have the NIL $ to compete with many schools if that is the motivation for some of the "best" players to pick a school. And, really what the best players want is the best opportunity to play. Every D1 team has some level of great players. And, OSU has had a plethora come thru the CC/JC ranks. As far as your opening lines... OSU, the university, is not going to be hurt as an academic institution if baseball falls off the national stage. OSU represents over 32,000 students from all walks of life and baseball funds none of the academics and is a pebble on the beach in terms of OSU's national reputation. For those into athletics it is much more important, but those folks seem to forget the vast majority of students and the public are not athletic fanatics. OSU... the baseball program, and the university are not going anywhere. And, they do not have to try to keep up with the Jones's to stay relevant. Go Beavs I understand what you’re saying. I’m not saying the university will wether away or anything of that nature. All I’m saying is if the we can’t find a home in a Power-4 conference and a move is made to the Mountain West it’s a problem. |
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