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Post by sparty on Jul 30, 2023 18:31:36 GMT -8
Seems a stretch at this point but things change almost weekly if not daily now. Went from not adding to everyone now wanting 20 team mega conferences. When will it stop please. I am rethinking the ACC is starting to look good now.
Clemson, Florida State, ore, Wash.
.....That would poach two universities from the ACC - arguably its top-two athletics programs - and two from the Pac-12.....
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Post by beaver55to7 on Jul 30, 2023 19:05:41 GMT -8
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jul 30, 2023 19:15:06 GMT -8
This just in. Ohio State, Oklahoma State and Oregon State make the OSU conference but replace letters with a symbol, like prince.
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Post by sparty on Jul 30, 2023 19:18:11 GMT -8
Yeah, that is almost a given. And what is all this talk about Connecticut joining the Big 12. Do they even have a football team. If they can get in then every pac team should be automatic. Seriously what are their fans thinking. Besides Husky basketball they bring nothing of value yet they are serious about it in their forums. Very serious and their AD is working things hard to get them in. |
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Post by sparty on Jul 30, 2023 19:20:28 GMT -8
This just in. Ohio State, Oklahoma State and Oregon State make the OSU conference but replace letters with a symbol, like prince. The OSU? "The" |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 30, 2023 19:24:09 GMT -8
Yeah, that is almost a given. And what is all this talk about Connecticut joining the Big 12. Do they even have a football team. If they can get in then every pac team should be automatic. Seriously what are their fans thinking. Besides Husky basketball they bring nothing of value yet they are serious about it in their forums. Very serious and their AD is working things hard to get them in. Yes, the have a football team. Their coach is Jim Mora and he is actually doing a good job. |
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Post by sparty on Jul 31, 2023 5:50:07 GMT -8
Yeah, that is almost a given. And what is all this talk about Connecticut joining the Big 12. Do they even have a football team. If they can get in then every pac team should be automatic. Seriously what are their fans thinking. Besides Husky basketball they bring nothing of value yet they are serious about it in their forums. Very serious and their AD is working things hard to get them in. Yes, the have a football team. Their coach is Jim Mora and he is actually doing a good job. So for Big 12 consideration you would put them ahead of any other pac school under consideration including WSU and OSU? |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 31, 2023 6:52:43 GMT -8
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 31, 2023 6:57:25 GMT -8
Yes, the have a football team. Their coach is Jim Mora and he is actually doing a good job. So for Big 12 consideration you would put them ahead of any other pac school under consideration including WSU and OSU? The big 12 is putting a heavy emphasis on basketball. That is why they may take UCONN and also why they are going after Arizona. |
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Post by mb on Jul 31, 2023 8:36:28 GMT -8
This just in. Ohio State, Oklahoma State and Oregon State make the OSU conference but replace letters with a symbol, like prince. The OSU? "The" I'm thinking, "Them" OSUs. Get your pronouns in order. Come on, man! |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jul 31, 2023 8:49:30 GMT -8
Big 10 has been waiting on Notre Dame. Looks like that will not happen. So maybe this is their move instead.
I don't believe any of the "we're going to focus USC and UCla." crap. All these people talk out both sides of their mouths.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jul 31, 2023 8:54:02 GMT -8
Yeah, that is almost a given. And what is all this talk about Connecticut joining the Big 12. Do they even have a football team. If they can get in then every pac team should be automatic. Seriously what are their fans thinking. Besides Husky basketball they bring nothing of value yet they are serious about it in their forums. Very serious and their AD is working things hard to get them in. You could ask yourself what do we bring to the table? In the big picture of college athletics.......not a whole lot. Had we gotten Smith earlier and built football up might've helped. If our basketball program wasn't a joke, that would help.......the other programs that football, and men's b-ball pay for don't factor into the fold much. |
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Post by cake on Jul 31, 2023 10:12:09 GMT -8
Yeah, that is almost a given. And what is all this talk about Connecticut joining the Big 12. Do they even have a football team. If they can get in then every pac team should be automatic. Seriously what are their fans thinking. Besides Husky basketball they bring nothing of value yet they are serious about it in their forums. Very serious and their AD is working things hard to get them in. You could ask yourself what do we bring to the table? In the big picture of college athletics.......not a whole lot. Had we gotten Smith earlier and built football up might've helped. If our basketball program wasn't a joke, that would help.......the other programs that football, and men's b-ball pay for don't factor into the fold much. We're not THAT bad.
The football team made $38 million with half a stadium. If we'd been at capacity, we'd have ended up 4th or 5th in revenue in the Pac-12. Basketball made $11.6M. That would be comparable to Oklahoma State, overall about $5M ahead of them adding football and basketball together. Basketball made more money than Colorado, Utah, Cal and Washington State.
And UConn hoops made $32.5M with football bringing in $18.5M. We'd be comfortably ahead of them by around $15M.
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Post by rgeorge on Jul 31, 2023 11:15:16 GMT -8
You could ask yourself what do we bring to the table? In the big picture of college athletics.......not a whole lot. Had we gotten Smith earlier and built football up might've helped. If our basketball program wasn't a joke, that would help.......the other programs that football, and men's b-ball pay for don't factor into the fold much. We're not THAT bad.
The football team made $38 million with half a stadium. If we'd been at capacity, we'd have ended up 4th or 5th in revenue in the Pac-12. Basketball made $11.6M. That would be comparable to Oklahoma State, overall about $5M ahead of them adding football and basketball together. Basketball made more money than Colorado, Utah, Cal and Washington State.
And UConn hoops made $32.5M with football bringing in $18.5M. We'd be comfortably ahead of them by around $15M.
OSU football and basketball didn't "make" as in profit... In 2022 overall revenue and expenses were at a deficit. Football "made" about $14 million in profit. MBB lost $1.3 million. WBB lost $3 million. "Other Sports" combined lost $13 million!! And, overall revenue was 10th out of 10 reporting Pac12 schools... USC and Stanford being private. A full stadium would have made OSU more, but not much in terms of $31 mil of that $38 mil was from media and conference disbursements. Tickets accounted for $5.3 million. UConn was 38th in the country with a PROFIT overall of $2.3 mil. OSU ranked 89th with a deficit (-4.2) mil. Putting OSU comfortably behind by $6.5 million. BUT... UConn basically receives 1/2 of their athletic budget from direct institutional support ($46 million) and only $3.5 million for media rights/conference distributions. A far different revenue model than OSU. OSU's "survival" in terms of revenue is heavily dependent not only on a media deal, but conference success. More than 1/2 of the overall athletic revenue ($25.7 million Media... $10.5 million Pac12 distributions... $6 million NCAA distributions) $42.2 million of the $83.5 million came from those sources. OSU was already running at a budget deficit, with Barnes hoping to eliminate it by the 2024 budget adoption. I'm not sure how that budget can be penciled out completely with regards to the future with no media deal and the current one expiring in the Summer of 2024?! If there was some $30 mil+/per school offer out there it would have been accepted by now. It would not have kept USC or UCLA as the B10 deal was finalized and assured far earlier. As with the rest of us here I have no knowledge of the inner workings of the conference or media negotiations, however I'm thinking the Pac12 has lost any leverage. I'm guessing the effect will be a "cobbled" combination deal with multiple entities that lessens the conferences power to schedule, and most likely will not reach a number that has significance to the current membership. Meaning, budgets will need to be cut. Hope my uninformed opinion is way off base, but the longer this goes, the worse it seems to be... |
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Post by sparty on Jul 31, 2023 11:42:30 GMT -8
Big 10 has been waiting on Notre Dame. Looks like that will not happen. So maybe this is their move instead. I don't believe any of the "we're going to focus USC and UCla." crap. All these people talk out both sides of their mouths. Best thing I have heard today. They are saying one thing and doing another. Everyone is watching for the next guys moves. That includes Ad's, schools and conferences. It would be interesting to be in on some of the meetings. |
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