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Post by rgeorge on Jul 26, 2023 16:37:55 GMT -8
Colorado is reportedly gone and UO holding some sort of big meeting this week. Adding SDSU isn't going to cut it. I guess shrinking Reser to 35,000 was good foresight...just fine for a Pac-MWC mashup conference. I'm not sure about the State of Colorado as the major State universities are already in different conferences. But, Oregon has little control over leaving the Pac12. I can not ever see those in Higher Ed approving such a move for one of the schools.
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Post by grayman on Jul 26, 2023 17:09:09 GMT -8
Colorado is reportedly gone and UO holding some sort of big meeting this week. Adding SDSU isn't going to cut it. I guess shrinking Reser to 35,000 was good foresight...just fine for a Pac-MWC mashup conference. Y'know. I looked into this. Both Colorado and Oregon have meetings tomorrow, but they are open meetings. You can hop onto the Oregon meeting at 10 a.m. tomorrow. I believe that the Colorado meeting is at 2 p.m. tomorrow. You can hop on that, too, if you would like. I sincerely doubt that they are going to do anything earthshattering at an open meeting. The more that I think about this, the more that I think that is probably another large Big 12 smear campaign. I hope you're right...I was feeling rather defeatist when I posted
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Post by 93beav on Jul 26, 2023 17:31:04 GMT -8
This is almost the exact same story as the last time that Colorado held a Board of Regents meeting back in June. Brett McMurphy is a Big 12 hack. Some of the other reporting makes me think that there might be smoke behind McMurphy's nonsense, though. Having said that, there is 0% chance that the Big 12 takes just one team. So, who's the other, and where is the reporting on that team? And is there a third? George K sucks. His hiring was pennywise and dollar foolish. It has been a dumpster fire since, and the Big 12 is doing what they can to pour gasoline on the whole thing. The Big 12 still believes that they can pull one out of the fire by merging 3-4 Pac-12 teams into the Big 12. McMurphy is often full of crap, but several others are reporting this, and even Canzano hints today that there is a lot of pressure that may incite a move. I don't know that they will get a second team, or if they do it's UConn. There are rumors out there now that a second Pac team was thinking of leaving and most people point to Oregon. "Supposedly" from even worse hacks than McMurphy, it's not the 4 corners, OSU, WSU, Stanford or Cal. Doesn't leave a whole lot of players. I still believe the Pac will survive if Colorado leaves. Everybody in Big12 land acts like it's the end of the Pac, as if Colorado was the linchpin. They'll replace Colorado with either SDSU or CSU and keep moving forward. For the people talking about expansion earlier, the rumors - again, just rumors - are that UofO vetoed expansion to keep more money for everyone and increase their chance of making the playoffs with fewer teams. If that were true AND they jumped to the Big 12 then...I don't know what to tell you. But I have high doubts they jump to the Big 12. Just no real reason to do it.
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Post by 93beav on Jul 26, 2023 17:31:52 GMT -8
Y'know. I looked into this. Both Colorado and Oregon have meetings tomorrow, but they are open meetings. You can hop onto the Oregon meeting at 10 a.m. tomorrow. I believe that the Colorado meeting is at 2 p.m. tomorrow. You can hop on that, too, if you would like. I sincerely doubt that they are going to do anything earthshattering at an open meeting. The more that I think about this, the more that I think that is probably another large Big 12 smear campaign. I hope you're right...I was feeling rather defeatist when I posted The open meeting for Oregon may just be about extending their coaches contract. The Colorado meeting...it would be kind of a crappy thing to do, but then that sounds like Colorado, to make it a big publicity stunt about them leaving to the Big 12.
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Post by EmeraldEmpire on Jul 26, 2023 18:02:19 GMT -8
I hope you're right...I was feeling rather defeatist when I posted The open meeting for Oregon may just be about extending their coaches contract. The Colorado meeting...it would be kind of a crappy thing to do, but then that sounds like Colorado, to make it a big publicity stunt about them leaving to the Big 12. Apparently so …
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 26, 2023 20:36:56 GMT -8
This is almost the exact same story as the last time that Colorado held a Board of Regents meeting back in June. Brett McMurphy is a Big 12 hack. Some of the other reporting makes me think that there might be smoke behind McMurphy's nonsense, though. Having said that, there is 0% chance that the Big 12 takes just one team. So, who's the other, and where is the reporting on that team? And is there a third? George K sucks. His hiring was pennywise and dollar foolish. It has been a dumpster fire since, and the Big 12 is doing what they can to pour gasoline on the whole thing. The Big 12 still believes that they can pull one out of the fire by merging 3-4 Pac-12 teams into the Big 12. McMurphy is often full of crap, but several others are reporting this, and even Canzano hints today that there is a lot of pressure that may incite a move. I don't know that they will get a second team, or if they do it's UConn. There are rumors out there now that a second Pac team was thinking of leaving and most people point to Oregon. "Supposedly" from even worse hacks than McMurphy, it's not the 4 corners, OSU, WSU, Stanford or Cal. Doesn't leave a whole lot of players. I still believe the Pac will survive if Colorado leaves. Everybody in Big12 land acts like it's the end of the Pac, as if Colorado was the linchpin. They'll replace Colorado with either SDSU or CSU and keep moving forward. For the people talking about expansion earlier, the rumors - again, just rumors - are that UofO vetoed expansion to keep more money for everyone and increase their chance of making the playoffs with fewer teams. If that were true AND they jumped to the Big 12 then...I don't know what to tell you. But I have high doubts they jump to the Big 12. Just no real reason to do it. Or maybe this is Colorado's response to what seems like Oregon and Washington trying to work out an even more unequal split? Negotiation tactic? Who knows? In 18 hours, we should know a lot more.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 26, 2023 21:01:21 GMT -8
McMurphy is often full of crap, but several others are reporting this, and even Canzano hints today that there is a lot of pressure that may incite a move. I don't know that they will get a second team, or if they do it's UConn. There are rumors out there now that a second Pac team was thinking of leaving and most people point to Oregon. "Supposedly" from even worse hacks than McMurphy, it's not the 4 corners, OSU, WSU, Stanford or Cal. Doesn't leave a whole lot of players. I still believe the Pac will survive if Colorado leaves. Everybody in Big12 land acts like it's the end of the Pac, as if Colorado was the linchpin. They'll replace Colorado with either SDSU or CSU and keep moving forward. For the people talking about expansion earlier, the rumors - again, just rumors - are that UofO vetoed expansion to keep more money for everyone and increase their chance of making the playoffs with fewer teams. If that were true AND they jumped to the Big 12 then...I don't know what to tell you. But I have high doubts they jump to the Big 12. Just no real reason to do it. Or maybe this is Colorado's response to what seems like Oregon and Washington trying to work out an even more unequal split? Negotiation tactic? Who knows? In 18 hours, we should know a lot more. Or they could have heard that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, and this whole thing could be for real.
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Post by beaver55to7 on Jul 27, 2023 6:41:09 GMT -8
Or maybe this is Colorado's response to what seems like Oregon and Washington trying to work out an even more unequal split? Negotiation tactic? Who knows? In 18 hours, we should know a lot more. Or they could have heard that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, and this whole thing could be for real. Almost certainly Colorado is gone, if they were staying they wouldn't want the conference destabilized and they would have issued a statement of denial last night after the major news organizations started reporting it. They gone
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Post by speakthetruth on Jul 27, 2023 6:48:12 GMT -8
When you (pac12) are the last one to the dinner table you are left with the scraps.
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Post by beavaristotle on Jul 27, 2023 8:25:42 GMT -8
Or they could have heard that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, and this whole thing could be for real. Almost certainly Colorado is gone, if they were staying they wouldn't want the conference destabilized and they would have issued a statement of denial last night after the major news organizations started reporting it. They gone now Colorado can lie to the big 12 about starting a baseball program, they’ve had practice at that
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