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Post by ag87 on Jul 15, 2023 18:18:28 GMT -8
I stumbled across this data from CDC. www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life_expectancy/life_expectancy.htm Because I was thinking about NIL and the importance of college athletics, I wondered if it was connected. These are the states where life expectancy (at birth) is 74.4 years and below. Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Kentucky, MIssissippi, Oklahoma, Tennesee, and West Virginia. Note it is the state of 10 of the 16 SEC schools. These are the states where life expectancy is 78.0 and above. California, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Idaho, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont and Washington. I see the 10 Pac-10 schools and no SEC schools. I know nothing is so easy to explain, but I wonder if the states with low life expectancy would invest more in health care (I'm guessing life expectancy is linked to available health care) and less in paying college athletes and huge stadiums they would no longer be on the bottom of the life expectancy charts. edit - oops, I blew it on Arizona (76.3 years) |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 15, 2023 21:43:06 GMT -8
I stumbled across this data from CDC. www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life_expectancy/life_expectancy.htm Because I was thinking about NIL and the importance of college athletics, I wondered if it was connected. These are the states where life expectancy (at birth) is 74.4 years and below. Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Kentucky, MIssissippi, Oklahoma, Tennesee, and West Virginia. Note it is the state of 10 of the 16 SEC schools. These are the states where life expectancy is 78.0 and above. California, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Idaho, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont and Washington. I see the 10 Pac-10 schools and no SEC schools. I know nothing is so easy to explain, but I wonder if the states with low life expectancy would invest more in health care (I'm guessing life expectancy is linked to available health care) and less in paying college athletes and huge stadiums they would no longer be on the bottom of the life expectancy charts. edit - oops, I blew it on Arizona (76.3 years) State that spends the most on health care per capita: Alaska with the 12th-lowest life expectancy. State that spends the least on health care per capita: Utah with the 9th-highest life expectancy. State with the highest life expectancy: Hawai'i, which spends the 11th-least on health care. Washington is the second, spending the 21st-least on health care. You want to crunch numbers? Instead of trying to correlate health care spending with life expectancy, why not look at cigarette-smoking per capita? #1 West Virginia with the second-lowest life expectancy.
#2 Kentucky with the fifth-lowest life expectancy.
#3 Louisiana with the third-lowest life expectancy.
#4 Ohio with the 13th-lowest life expectancy.
#5 Mississippi with the lowest life expectancy.
The states with the 11 highest smoking rates each have the 13th or lower life expectancy in the country.
The only two outliers are New Mexico and South Carolina. (And South Carolina has the 16th-highest smoking rate in the country and also is one of 12 states, where it is still legal to smoke indoors.)
#12 Michigan with the 15th-lowest life expectancy.
#13 North Carolina with the 16th-lowest life expectancy.
Pouring money into health care in states that smoke the most is a waste of both time and money.
I would add that, until 1982, the United States of America had the highest smoking rate in the industrialized world before Japan passed the United States. And smoking deaths lag decades behind actual smoking.
Smoking is still the leading cause of preventable death in the United States.
We keep getting distracted by other things, but it is important to remember that smoking drugs kill you. Stop and don't start. |
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Post by seastape on Jul 16, 2023 8:19:11 GMT -8
As soon as you started doing a state-by-state breakdown for life expectancy as related to athletics, my thoughts was to look into cholesterol or dietary issues as opposed to health care expenditures. I thought there had been a thread on this board sometime ago showing that caloric intake and consumption of protein and carbs tended to be higher in Midwest and southern states. That could make for bigger people leading to better athletics, and lower life-expectany.
Wilky's data re: smoking comes as no surprise.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 16, 2023 9:39:30 GMT -8
You spend more money on unhealthy people. Utah probably spends the least per capita because a disproportionately large (conmpared to the rest of the country) number of its citizens are LDS, who generally do not smoke or drink.
If say, half of your state's population does not drink or smoke, that's a great start toward being a healthy state.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 16, 2023 9:46:16 GMT -8
As soon as you started doing a state-by-state breakdown for life expectancy as related to athletics, my thoughts was to look into cholesterol or dietary issues as opposed to health care expenditures. I thought there had been a thread on this board sometime ago showing that caloric intake and consumption of protein and carbs tended to be higher in Midwest and southern states. That could make for bigger people leading to better athletics, and lower life-expectany. Wilky's data re: smoking comes as no surprise. And high cholesterol really gets a bad rap, apparently there have been studies showing at least half or more (depending on the study) of heart attack and heart disease victims have ldl levels of 100 or lower. Blame Ancel Keys and a popular President who was fond of steak (and was a longtime 2-3 pack a day smoker, which in those days apparently was cool) having a heart attack for the cholesterol fear. I’d like to see the diabetes rates in those states as well. There’s a bunch of variables. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jul 16, 2023 12:02:23 GMT -8
Wilky is dead on. Want to correlate life expectancy then don't use spending. Focus on societal bad and good habits. The states that eat the worst, have the most poor health habits, highest crime rate and lack of active lifestyle will have the worst outcomes. It's not even a logical leap. People are terrible at dealing with outcomes on long time lines and we are great at snapping to the norms around them.
Many researchers feel that spending should be focused on education and childhood poverty to improve life expectancy across the board.
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Post by lebaneaver on Jul 16, 2023 14:49:04 GMT -8
Smoking....s%#tty diet.....over consumption of beer, wine, and booze, coupled with a sedentary lifestyle. YA THINK?!?!?!?
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jul 16, 2023 16:03:18 GMT -8
Smoking....s%#tty diet.....over consumption of beer, wine, and booze, coupled with a sedentary lifestyle. YA THINK?!?!?!? Really is shocking stuff right? |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 16, 2023 16:15:38 GMT -8
Smoking....s%#tty diet.....over consumption of beer, wine, and booze, coupled with a sedentary lifestyle. YA THINK?!?!?!? I'm 5 for 6 on that list. |
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Post by irimi on Jul 17, 2023 4:54:21 GMT -8
Smoking....s%#tty diet.....over consumption of beer, wine, and booze, coupled with a sedentary lifestyle. YA THINK?!?!?!? I'm 5 for 6 on that list. Well, you know, he did say OVERconsumption of beer, wine, and booze. |
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Post by irimi on Jul 17, 2023 4:57:17 GMT -8
I'm thinking sugar is the new tobacco. The American diet is way too sweet. I'm watching diabetes destroy my brother in law and seeing how he is unable to keep away from sugary snacks. It's like a drug addiction.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 17, 2023 6:33:45 GMT -8
I'm thinking sugar is the new tobacco. The American diet is way too sweet. I'm watching diabetes destroy my brother in law and seeing how he is unable to keep away from sugary snacks. It's like a drug addiction. It sounds like a huge conspiracy theory, but big tobacco basically has been nailed for purposely making tobacco products more addictive and basically did the same thing with food when it started buying up Kraft Heinz, General Mills, Nabisco back in the 80s. Sugar and processed crap that our bodies essentially treat as sugar has become pervasive in “modern” diets. |
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Post by orangeattack on Jul 17, 2023 13:35:53 GMT -8
Wilky is dead on. Want to correlate life expectancy then don't use spending. Focus on societal bad and good habits. The states that eat the worst, have the most poor health habits, highest crime rate and lack of active lifestyle will have the worst outcomes. It's not even a logical leap. People are terrible at dealing with outcomes on long time lines and we are great at snapping to the norms around them. Many researchers feel that spending should be focused on education and childhood poverty to improve life expectancy across the board. Alaska has arguably the worst substance abuse issues in the nation per capita, and Utah thanks to the LDS population has the lowest per capita substance usage. I'm a complete hypocrite here because there is a shelf full of whiskey right behind me but I recently realized that I would like to drink alcohol a lot, lot less than I do currently. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jul 17, 2023 13:46:58 GMT -8
Wilky is dead on. Want to correlate life expectancy then don't use spending. Focus on societal bad and good habits. The states that eat the worst, have the most poor health habits, highest crime rate and lack of active lifestyle will have the worst outcomes. It's not even a logical leap. People are terrible at dealing with outcomes on long time lines and we are great at snapping to the norms around them. Many researchers feel that spending should be focused on education and childhood poverty to improve life expectancy across the board. Alaska has arguably the worst substance abuse issues in the nation per capita, and Utah thanks to the LDS population has the lowest per capita substance usage. I'm a complete hypocrite here because there is a shelf full of whiskey right behind me but I recently realized that I would like to drink alcohol a lot, lot less than I do currently. Everyone needs to take their own history and situation into account. I have a pile of Autoimmune diseases that limit my activity and stress my body. So I have to eat clean and be really conscious of my choices as I'm aging like jaba the hut left out in the sun. |
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Post by orangeattack on Jul 17, 2023 14:07:23 GMT -8
Alaska has arguably the worst substance abuse issues in the nation per capita, and Utah thanks to the LDS population has the lowest per capita substance usage. I'm a complete hypocrite here because there is a shelf full of whiskey right behind me but I recently realized that I would like to drink alcohol a lot, lot less than I do currently. Everyone needs to take their own history and situation into account. I have a pile of Autoimmune diseases that limit my activity and stress my body. So I have to eat clean and be really conscious of my choices as I'm aging like jaba the hut left out in the sun. I'm aging like Jabba in the sun anyway, I keep putting myself into the hospital with broken bones and destroyed joints. I'm into double digit surgeries at this point, and something CONSTANTLY hurts, lol. 4 left knee surgeries, 2 right shoulder surgeries, 4 surgeries on my left foot, maxiliofacial/orbital floor, gallbladder appendix. I still have another facial surgery that I'm putting off, because I'm frickin sick and tired of recovering from surgery. |
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