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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 6, 2023 15:34:28 GMT -8
Here is our thread from last year about whether to start the ace or not.#1 seeds were 86.11% more likely to win a Regional by winning game two rather than winning game one. I just cranked out the numbers to check. Sure enough, #2 seeds are 37.11% more likely to win a Regional by winning game two rather than winning game one. Oregon State should have saved AJ Lattery and Trent Sellers to pitch game two. speakthetruth said that LSU would regret pitching Skenes against Tulane, and I thought that Oregon State would probably regret pitching Sellers more against Sam Houston and I was sadly correct. If Oregon State had thrown Ben Ferrer, Ian Lawson, Aiden Jimenez, or Rhett Larson against Sam Houston and saved Lattery and Sellers for Louisiana State, Oregon State probably is heading to a Lexington Super Regional. Instead, Oregon State is heading home. Just a thought. We beat the topic to death last year and then no one mentioned it at all this year.
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Post by hottubbeaver on Jun 6, 2023 16:18:41 GMT -8
Wilky I'm just gonna take a wild guess that staying in the winners bracket gives teams a much bigger odds of winning a regional than going through the losers bracket. To stay in the winners bracket you need to win game 2 100% of time, but you also need to win game one 100% of time too.
Two things nobody was thinking 6 pitches into first game; 1) Sellers would have one of his best outings 2) We'd score over two TD's w extra points and a fg to boot.
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Post by beaver1989 on Jun 6, 2023 16:35:14 GMT -8
Wilky I'm just gonna take a wild guess that staying in the winners bracket gives teams a much bigger odds of winning a regional than going through the losers bracket. To stay in the winners bracket you need to win game 2 100% of time, but you also need to win game one 100% of time too. Two things nobody was thinking 6 pitches into first game; 1) Sellers would have one of his best outings 2) We'd score over two TD's w extra points and a fg to boot. This won't be a popular opinion, but you'll never convince me that LSU couldn't hit Sellers, Kmatz, or Hunter well enough to win their Regional. However, if we had won that 6-5 game with a full pitching staff, our chances would've been very good at winning 1 out of 2 on Monday. |
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Post by grackle on Jun 6, 2023 18:10:25 GMT -8
If only Dorman hadn't foolishly taken Keljo out after only ONE effective inning in game #1 vs LSU..... His replacement got bombed...
I remain convinced that Dorman's inexplicable moves cost us several important wins over the course of the season.
IMO, Dorman is simply not a consistently effective college pitching coach. He needs to move on if we're going to live up to our pitching potential.
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Post by beaver1989 on Jun 6, 2023 18:20:42 GMT -8
If only Dorman hadn't foolishly taken Keljo out after only ONE effective inning in game #1 vs LSU..... His replacement got bombed... I remain convinced that Dorman's inexplicable moves cost us several important wins over the course of the season. IMO, Dorman is simply not a consistently effective college pitching coach. He needs to move on if we're going to live up to our pitching potential. I like your opinion, but don't agree. Go fishing with rafer, you'll be happier. |
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jun 6, 2023 18:30:35 GMT -8
Here is our thread from last year about whether to start the ace or not.#1 seeds were 86.11% more likely to win a Regional by winning game two rather than winning game one. I just cranked out the numbers to check. Sure enough, #2 seeds are 37.11% more likely to win a Regional by winning game two rather than winning game one. Oregon State should have saved AJ Lattery and Trent Sellers to pitch game two. speakthetruth said that LSU would regret pitching Skenes against Tulane, and I thought that Oregon State would probably regret pitching Sellers more against Sam Houston and I was sadly correct. If Oregon State had thrown Ben Ferrer, Ian Lawson, Aiden Jimenez, or Rhett Larson against Sam Houston and saved Lattery and Sellers for Louisiana State, Oregon State probably is heading to a Lexington Super Regional. Instead, Oregon State is heading home. Just a thought. We beat the topic to death last year and then no one mentioned it at all this year. Oh lord…. ummmm…. No. |
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Post by beaver1989 on Jun 6, 2023 18:50:38 GMT -8
If only Dorman hadn't foolishly taken Keljo out after only ONE effective inning in game #1 vs LSU..... His replacement got bombed... I remain convinced that Dorman's inexplicable moves cost us several important wins over the course of the season. IMO, Dorman is simply not a consistently effective college pitching coach. He needs to move on if we're going to live up to our pitching potential. Keljo gave up two bombs on Monday in 2/3 of an inning.(LSU likes fastballs BTW) The coaches didn't milk him on Sunday because he's young, wild, has limited off speed location, & usually throws around 20 pitches per outing. Dorman may or may not move on in the future, but you don't know jack s%#t about pitching. However, you're a great Beaver fan & I look forward to reading your baseball & football opinions in the future. |
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Post by chicagobeav on Jun 6, 2023 22:39:39 GMT -8
You can talk about pitching all you want, but for me it was effective enough in game two to be in a tight game again a very good hitting team. I was more concerned about 19 strike out by our hitters- there is where we lost the game.
Pitching coaches are railed - how many times did we hear “too late Nate”. Our pitching staff this year was pretty flawed, losing two starters did not help, and due to prior year losses, had to count on some talented Freshmen that may look great for one inning and then get shelled the next. Hopefully we get a lot of those kids back because they looked pretty talented when they were on.
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Post by irimi on Jun 7, 2023 4:34:34 GMT -8
Here is our thread from last year about whether to start the ace or not.#1 seeds were 86.11% more likely to win a Regional by winning game two rather than winning game one. I just cranked out the numbers to check. Sure enough, #2 seeds are 37.11% more likely to win a Regional by winning game two rather than winning game one. Oregon State should have saved AJ Lattery and Trent Sellers to pitch game two. speakthetruth said that LSU would regret pitching Skenes against Tulane, and I thought that Oregon State would probably regret pitching Sellers more against Sam Houston and I was sadly correct. If Oregon State had thrown Ben Ferrer, Ian Lawson, Aiden Jimenez, or Rhett Larson against Sam Houston and saved Lattery and Sellers for Louisiana State, Oregon State probably is heading to a Lexington Super Regional. Instead, Oregon State is heading home. Just a thought. We beat the topic to death last year and then no one mentioned it at all this year. It's a good question. But Sam Houston gave us a run a pretty tough game in game 3 of the regional. And game 2 of the regional could have ended up going in our favor. We gave LSU all they could handle. Now, if we had Kmatz available to us, we could play the hypothetical a little more easily, but given the depleted ranks, I think the motivation was to win the game in front of us. Besides, we saw what happens when we don't start our best in the Pac 12 tourney. I'm ok with the results. To get to Omaha, you really need a healthy team--that's true in any sport. Hopefully, next year, we can keep our pitchers healthy. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 7, 2023 5:18:15 GMT -8
Here is our thread from last year about whether to start the ace or not.#1 seeds were 86.11% more likely to win a Regional by winning game two rather than winning game one. I just cranked out the numbers to check. Sure enough, #2 seeds are 37.11% more likely to win a Regional by winning game two rather than winning game one. Oregon State should have saved AJ Lattery and Trent Sellers to pitch game two. speakthetruth said that LSU would regret pitching Skenes against Tulane, and I thought that Oregon State would probably regret pitching Sellers more against Sam Houston and I was sadly correct. If Oregon State had thrown Ben Ferrer, Ian Lawson, Aiden Jimenez, or Rhett Larson against Sam Houston and saved Lattery and Sellers for Louisiana State, Oregon State probably is heading to a Lexington Super Regional. Instead, Oregon State is heading home. Just a thought. We beat the topic to death last year and then no one mentioned it at all this year. Or maybe OSU simply lost to a better team? |
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Post by beaver55to7 on Jun 7, 2023 5:25:27 GMT -8
You can talk about pitching all you want, but for me it was effective enough in game two to be in a tight game again a very good hitting team. I was more concerned about 19 strike out by our hitters- there is where we lost the game. Pitching coaches are railed - how many times did we hear “too late Nate”. Our pitching staff this year was pretty flawed, losing two starters did not help, and due to prior year losses, had to count on some talented Freshmen that may look great for one inning and then get shelled the next. Hopefully we get a lot of those kids back because they looked pretty talented when they were on. Agreed, I don't think any combination of our healthy, at the time, pitchers was going to hold LSU to 4 runs or less in a game. We simply had to score more then 5 to beat them. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 7, 2023 9:17:03 GMT -8
Here is our thread from last year about whether to start the ace or not.#1 seeds were 86.11% more likely to win a Regional by winning game two rather than winning game one. I just cranked out the numbers to check. Sure enough, #2 seeds are 37.11% more likely to win a Regional by winning game two rather than winning game one. Oregon State should have saved AJ Lattery and Trent Sellers to pitch game two. speakthetruth said that LSU would regret pitching Skenes against Tulane, and I thought that Oregon State would probably regret pitching Sellers more against Sam Houston and I was sadly correct. If Oregon State had thrown Ben Ferrer, Ian Lawson, Aiden Jimenez, or Rhett Larson against Sam Houston and saved Lattery and Sellers for Louisiana State, Oregon State probably is heading to a Lexington Super Regional. Instead, Oregon State is heading home. Just a thought. We beat the topic to death last year and then no one mentioned it at all this year. Or maybe OSU simply lost to a better team? It's like people forget that LSU was the #1 team most of the season.....they scuffled to close it out, but regained form in the regional. It was a bad draw for us, period. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Jun 7, 2023 12:14:22 GMT -8
If only Dorman hadn't foolishly taken Keljo out after only ONE effective inning in game #1 vs LSU..... His replacement got bombed... I remain convinced that Dorman's inexplicable moves cost us several important wins over the course of the season. IMO, Dorman is simply not a consistently effective college pitching coach. He needs to move on if we're going to live up to our pitching potential. Keljo gave up two bombs on Monday in 2/3 of an inning.(LSU likes fastballs BTW) The coaches didn't milk him on Sunday because he's young, wild, has limited off speed location, & usually throws around 20 pitches per outing. Dorman may or may not move on in the future, but you don't know jack s%#t about pitching. However, you're a great Beaver fan & I look forward to reading your baseball & football opinions in the future. Dang, if only Keljo was also free he could have been a Triumph song! Sadly, he only had 2/3 of the Magic Power in him. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 7, 2023 12:22:45 GMT -8
Here is our thread from last year about whether to start the ace or not.#1 seeds were 86.11% more likely to win a Regional by winning game two rather than winning game one. I just cranked out the numbers to check. Sure enough, #2 seeds are 37.11% more likely to win a Regional by winning game two rather than winning game one. Oregon State should have saved AJ Lattery and Trent Sellers to pitch game two. speakthetruth said that LSU would regret pitching Skenes against Tulane, and I thought that Oregon State would probably regret pitching Sellers more against Sam Houston and I was sadly correct. If Oregon State had thrown Ben Ferrer, Ian Lawson, Aiden Jimenez, or Rhett Larson against Sam Houston and saved Lattery and Sellers for Louisiana State, Oregon State probably is heading to a Lexington Super Regional. Instead, Oregon State is heading home. Just a thought. We beat the topic to death last year and then no one mentioned it at all this year. Or maybe OSU simply lost to a better team? Oregon State went to the hardest place in the country to play, played through a monsoon, and still was only a run away. Basically, Mitchy Slick was limited to five unthinkable options:  Give me a game between the two in Omaha. It was an awful draw. My lone point is that it was not played perfectly. The key is to win the second game. Usually more important than the first. |
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Post by beaver1989 on Jun 7, 2023 12:27:19 GMT -8
Keljo gave up two bombs on Monday in 2/3 of an inning.(LSU likes fastballs BTW) The coaches didn't milk him on Sunday because he's young, wild, has limited off speed location, & usually throws around 20 pitches per outing. Dorman may or may not move on in the future, but you don't know jack s%#t about pitching. However, you're a great Beaver fan & I look forward to reading your baseball & football opinions in the future. Dang, if only Keljo was also free he could have been a Triumph song! Sadly, he only had 2/3 of the Magic Power in him. Keljo has a big time arm, an arm you don't see everyday especially from a freshman. He should improve over the next two years and become a fan favorite As far as music & songs.......don't bother me with that s%#t because I won't know what then hell you're talking about. Beer is a different matter.....I'm much more knowledgeable about beer than songs & music.😀 |
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