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Post by irimi on May 29, 2023 19:21:04 GMT -8
Depends if Kmatz can go. Parker alluded to Kmatz was not going to pitch in the Pac-12 tourney due to an injury. Didn’t hear that. That’s scary. We will need him.
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Post by spudbeaver on May 29, 2023 19:32:29 GMT -8
Basically anything but a P12 Tourney repeat.
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Post by chinmusic on May 29, 2023 20:26:34 GMT -8
Our pitching didn't just suddenly collapse in Scottsdale, it had been in steady decline over the last 21 games dating back to the ASU series in Phoenix. A swift turn around will be required in Baton Rouge if the Beavs are to compete for a Regional title.
Numbers extracted from my earlier post: "The offense improved significantly and midway through our season we were trending up in team statistics. Once the lineup was set, the combination of speed and power began showing up 1 through 9 in the order and scoring accelerated. That continues today but our pitching began to struggle 20 games ago and that was apparent in today’s loss to Arizona.
In the last 14 PAC-12 Conference and tournament games we have played, here are the results, In the 3 game series with Arizona State, we allowed 34 runs In the 3 game series with Arizona, we allowed 15 runs In the 3 game series with Utah, we allowed 22 Runs In the 3 game series with UCLA, we allowed 21runs In the PAC-12 Tournament, we allowed Arizona 13 runs and Arizona State 14 runs.
In those 14 games against our Conference foes, we allowed 120 runs or an average of 8.58 Runs/Game.
Our 7 non-conference games, we fared a little better by allowing 40 runs in those 7 games, or 5.71 Runs/Game.
The totals for all 21 games are 159 runs allowed for an average of 7.58 Runs/Game. Even at that lofty run number, the offense has been so good, even prolific at times, the Beavers have won 14 of those 21 games (8-6 v PAC-10 opponents, 6-1 v Non-conference teams)."
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Post by avidbeaver on May 29, 2023 20:43:50 GMT -8
The Beavers pitching is a mess right now. Also, it isn't limited just to games in the desert. It will be a big hill to climb to advance past the regionals.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 29, 2023 20:52:50 GMT -8
I think Barney has an inning or two in him if it goes to extras He's so great!
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Post by 56chevy on May 29, 2023 21:16:44 GMT -8
I'd start Sellers vs Sam Houston and win that....then Keljo vs LSU....then Kmatz, then Lattery then whoever is left.....Ferrer stays in pen to help when needed and maybe start Monday night for the W Keljo? Yes, let’s start a guy that’s never started. That’s a recipe for success! Good lord. I think the strategy would be to let there Ace have his day and come back and beat them twice with regular starters still available.
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Post by avidbeaver on May 29, 2023 22:16:42 GMT -8
Keljo? Yes, let’s start a guy that’s never started. That’s a recipe for success! Good lord. I think the strategy would be to let there Ace have his day and come back and beat them twice with regular starters still available. Really? Just give up a game because it's their ace? It would be tough to beat him. I would lose faith in the coaches if they thought that way. Plus Sam Houston St may have something to say about that happening. This team can't assume anything.
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Post by tamatrix on May 29, 2023 22:29:00 GMT -8
I think the strategy would be to let there Ace have his day and come back and beat them twice with regular starters still available. Really? Just give up a game because it's their ace? It would be tough to beat him. I would lose faith in the coaches if they thought that way. Plus Sam Houston St may have something to say about that happening. This team can't assume anything. Keljo has started 100 games in his life... not giving up, see what the kid has a going to need something special to beat Skenes and he has best stuff on the staff and we'll be in rotation next year
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 29, 2023 23:09:07 GMT -8
Our pitching didn't just suddenly collapse in Scottsdale, it had been in steady decline over the last 21 games dating back to the ASU series in Phoenix. A swift turn around will be required in Baton Rouge if the Beavs are to compete for a Regional title. Numbers extracted from my earlier post: "The offense improved significantly and midway through our season we were trending up in team statistics. Once the lineup was set, the combination of speed and power began showing up 1 through 9 in the order and scoring accelerated. That continues today but our pitching began to struggle 20 games ago and that was apparent in today’s loss to Arizona. In the last 14 PAC-12 Conference and tournament games we have played, here are the results, In the 3 game series with Arizona State, we allowed 34 runs In the 3 game series with Arizona, we allowed 15 runs In the 3 game series with Utah, we allowed 22 Runs In the 3 game series with UCLA, we allowed 21runs In the PAC-12 Tournament, we allowed Arizona 13 runs and Arizona State 14 runs. In those 14 games against our Conference foes, we allowed 120 runs or an average of 8.58 Runs/Game. Our 7 non-conference games, we fared a little better by allowing 40 runs in those 7 games, or 5.71 Runs/Game. The totals for all 21 games are 159 runs allowed for an average of 7.58 Runs/Game. Even at that lofty run number, the offense has been so good, even prolific at times, the Beavers have won 14 of those 21 games (8-6 v PAC-10 opponents, 6-1 v Non-conference teams)." 119 runs in 14 games, 8.5 runs/game. One of the 7 "non-conference" game was against Oregon. If you include them you get 125 runs in 15 games, 8.33 runs/game. 9-6 versus Pac-12 opponents. Oregon State outscored Pac-12 opponents 144-125 in those 15 games. Three one-run wins and two two-run wins. Efficient. You aren't going to get apples-to-apples, because Oregon State has only given up runs at this clip once in the past 18 years and that was 2008. Still, the most obvious comparison: 2007: In the last 15 Pac-10 Conference games: Three-game series at Sunken Diamond, Oregon State allowed 22 runs. Three-game series at Seattle, Oregon State allowed 17 runs. Three-game series with Wazzu, Oregon State allowed 15 runs. Three-game series with Arizona State, Oregon State allowed 15 runs. Three-game series at Jackie Robinson, Oregon State allowed 17 runs. 86 runs in 15 games, 5.73 runs/game. As opposed to 9-6, Oregon State was 6-9 in 2007. But Oregon State outscored opponents 91-86. Zero one-run wins and one two-run win. Wildly inefficient. Oregon State went 11-1 after that. In the final 12 games in nine-inning ballgames, Oregon State only gave up more than four runs once. And that was against the Pac-10 Champion, Arizona State. 12-6. Oregon State gave up four twice to North Carolina in the Championship Series. Otherwise, a team that had been getting hammered turned it around and gave up 1, 3, 2, 3, 3, 0, 2, 2, 6, 1, 4, and 4. 31 runs in 12 games, 2.58 runs/game. The Pac-12 is the Conference of Champions. Giving up 125 is meaningless, because you are comparing apples to oranges. No one is going to be able to hit Oregon State pitching as well as Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon, UCLA and Utah. Mitchy Slick has this. All the pieces are there. Sneak by Sam Houston State. Throw something at the LSU-Tulane winner something that they have not seen yet. Mix in Oregon State pitching's best friend ever, the rain. Beavers can win this thing. It's there. Just have to go out and do it.
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Post by bvogrande on May 30, 2023 9:49:28 GMT -8
It would be really nice to have a weapon like Jaren Hunter. Will we have such such an item?
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Post by BeaverG20 on May 30, 2023 11:32:34 GMT -8
Our pitching didn't just suddenly collapse in Scottsdale, it had been in steady decline over the last 21 games dating back to the ASU series in Phoenix. A swift turn around will be required in Baton Rouge if the Beavs are to compete for a Regional title. Numbers extracted from my earlier post: "The offense improved significantly and midway through our season we were trending up in team statistics. Once the lineup was set, the combination of speed and power began showing up 1 through 9 in the order and scoring accelerated. That continues today but our pitching began to struggle 20 games ago and that was apparent in today’s loss to Arizona. In the last 14 PAC-12 Conference and tournament games we have played, here are the results, In the 3 game series with Arizona State, we allowed 34 runs In the 3 game series with Arizona, we allowed 15 runs In the 3 game series with Utah, we allowed 22 Runs In the 3 game series with UCLA, we allowed 21runs In the PAC-12 Tournament, we allowed Arizona 13 runs and Arizona State 14 runs. In those 14 games against our Conference foes, we allowed 120 runs or an average of 8.58 Runs/Game. Our 7 non-conference games, we fared a little better by allowing 40 runs in those 7 games, or 5.71 Runs/Game. The totals for all 21 games are 159 runs allowed for an average of 7.58 Runs/Game. Even at that lofty run number, the offense has been so good, even prolific at times, the Beavers have won 14 of those 21 games (8-6 v PAC-10 opponents, 6-1 v Non-conference teams)." It's really bad. Thanks for putting down in words.
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Post by chinmusic on May 30, 2023 12:33:56 GMT -8
A pitching staff in trouble - what are the signs? These are a few!
1. You are not getting 5 or 6 complete innings from your starters. 3 and 4 inning starts usually signal trouble. 2. The PC is making frequent trips to the mound and making frequent mid-inning pitching changes 3. Over dependence and use of the Bullpen. Using more than 3 relievers a game is not ideal. 4. Pitchers are failing to land first pitch strikes, falling behind in the count and throwing more than 20 pitchers per IP. 5. Frequently hard hit balls including deep fly outs and allowing excessive extra base hits. 6. Pitching with big counts and men on base every inning. Getting out of a jam should not be a routine drill. 7. Getting the ball "up in the zone" and loss of velo- usually a sign of tired legs or fatigue. 8. Loss of command - sliders that don't slide, sinkers that don't sink and curveballs that don't curve.
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Post by dluehosh1 on May 30, 2023 13:41:29 GMT -8
Get Ferrer out of the rotation.
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Post by oldbeav on May 30, 2023 16:22:55 GMT -8
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Post by spudbeaver on May 30, 2023 16:40:20 GMT -8
No Bueno….
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