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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 25, 2023 18:30:17 GMT -8
A caller to the show asked how our entire pitching staff could collapse at the same time. Parker replied “ I am not free to say but I guarantee that weekend will be an outlier, and yes this is meant to be cryptic “. Very strange statement. Was he implying that ASU were stealing our signs ( banging on trash cans) or that the staff partied too much. Really a BS comment overall. He has no biz sharing or insinuating anything other than the staff got rocked and will "most likely" be an outlier. Anything else is just unprofessional as an employee of OSU and just spurs on the rumor mill. Partying? If somehow against team policy, there should be suspensions, etc. Stealing signs? Then Dorman and MC are pretty clueless. It is not hard to pickup and then change up your calls/cards. Bottom line, the staff got rocked, certain players at the plate severely underperformed. Period. Move on and prep for this weekend. Effing Parker being Parker. Such a drama queen at times! Parker didn't say there was partying or sign-stealing. That's a poster making ridiculous assumptions.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 25, 2023 18:35:04 GMT -8
A caller to the show asked how our entire pitching staff could collapse at the same time. Parker replied “ I am not free to say but I guarantee that weekend will be an outlier, and yes this is meant to be cryptic “. Very strange statement. Was he implying that ASU were stealing our signs ( banging on trash cans) or that the staff partied too much. Really a BS comment overall. He has no biz sharing or insinuating anything other than the staff got rocked and will "most likely" be an outlier. Anything else is just unprofessional as an employee of OSU and just spurs on the rumor mill. Partying? If somehow against team policy, there should be suspensions, etc. Stealing signs? Then Dorman and MC are pretty clueless. It is not hard to pickup and then change up your calls/cards. Bottom line, the staff got rocked, certain players at the plate severely underperformed. Period. Move on and prep for this weekend. Effing Parker being Parker. Such a drama queen at times! TOTKO
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Post by giantkillers83 on Apr 25, 2023 18:49:38 GMT -8
Seems to me ASU was better than us… partly outlier, but not much
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Post by beaver55to7 on Apr 25, 2023 19:00:01 GMT -8
A caller to the show asked how our entire pitching staff could collapse at the same time. Parker replied “ I am not free to say but I guarantee that weekend will be an outlier, and yes this is meant to be cryptic “. Very strange statement. Was he implying that ASU were stealing our signs ( banging on trash cans) or that the staff partied too much. Trying to figure out how the whole staff could be tipping pitches, and how OSU found out ASU had figured it out. The only interesting thing I can think of is that both Blomquist and Canham spent considerable time in the Mariners organization. Perhaps Blomquist bragged to a mutual mariners associate who then tipped off Canham? Maybe Blomquist flat out told Canham how we were tipping pitches as a Mariners buddies professional courtesy after the series was over? Blomquist spent years in the majors, and some of those players can spot every mlb pitchers tell, and college pitchers all have tells. Maybe he is extremely good at picking up obvious tells and just lets his players know what they are. Maybe Canham just knows that Blomquist is phenomenal at spotting pitchers tells, so he knows no other team has a guy like Blomquist who can do that. Interesting for sure.
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Post by beavaristotle on Apr 25, 2023 19:06:41 GMT -8
A caller to the show asked how our entire pitching staff could collapse at the same time. Parker replied “ I am not free to say but I guarantee that weekend will be an outlier, and yes this is meant to be cryptic “. Very strange statement. Was he implying that ASU were stealing our signs ( banging on trash cans) or that the staff partied too much. Trying to figure out how the whole staff could be tipping pitches, and how OSU found out ASU had figured it out. The only interesting thing I can think of is that both Blomquist and Canham spent considerable time in the Mariners organization. Perhaps Blomquist bragged to a mutual mariners associate who then tipped off Canham? Maybe Blomquist flat out told Canham how we were tipping pitches as a Mariners buddies professional courtesy after the series was over? Blomquist spent years in the majors, and some of those players can spot every mlb pitchers tell, and college pitchers all have tells. Maybe he is extremely good at picking up obvious tells and just lets his players know what they are. unlikely the whole staff was tipping. If anything I think it would we more like what the Astros were doing. Signaling location through a sound after our catcher has set up
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 25, 2023 19:11:57 GMT -8
Trying to figure out how the whole staff could be tipping pitches, and how OSU found out ASU had figured it out. The only interesting thing I can think of is that both Blomquist and Canham spent considerable time in the Mariners organization. Perhaps Blomquist bragged to a mutual mariners associate who then tipped off Canham? Maybe Blomquist flat out told Canham how we were tipping pitches as a Mariners buddies professional courtesy after the series was over? Blomquist spent years in the majors, and some of those players can spot every mlb pitchers tell, and college pitchers all have tells. Maybe he is extremely good at picking up obvious tells and just lets his players know what they are. unlikely the whole staff was tipping. If anything I think it would we more like what the Astros were doing. Signaling location through a sound after our catcher has set up Location does nothing if you don’t know what pitch is coming. Plus, most college pitchers don’t hit the location all the time. I don’t know why Parker said anything, but there’s a lot of wild speculation in this thread.
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Post by beaver55to7 on Apr 25, 2023 19:14:48 GMT -8
Trying to figure out how the whole staff could be tipping pitches, and how OSU found out ASU had figured it out. The only interesting thing I can think of is that both Blomquist and Canham spent considerable time in the Mariners organization. Perhaps Blomquist bragged to a mutual mariners associate who then tipped off Canham? Maybe Blomquist flat out told Canham how we were tipping pitches as a Mariners buddies professional courtesy after the series was over? Blomquist spent years in the majors, and some of those players can spot every mlb pitchers tell, and college pitchers all have tells. Maybe he is extremely good at picking up obvious tells and just lets his players know what they are. unlikely the whole staff was tipping. If anything I think it would we more like what the Astros were doing. Signaling location through a sound after our catcher has set up Doing what the Astros did is not legal. Accusing another team of breaking the rules with zero proof is serious business. That is a charge that would require exceptional proof to make…do you have such proof?
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 25, 2023 19:24:12 GMT -8
unlikely the whole staff was tipping. If anything I think it would we more like what the Astros were doing. Signaling location through a sound after our catcher has set up Doing what the Astros did is not legal. Accusing another team of breaking the rules with zero proof is serious business. That is a charge that would require exceptional proof to make…do you have such proof? Since when?
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Post by beaverdreams on Apr 25, 2023 20:16:48 GMT -8
Love Mike Parker. He IS a treasure and I loved the guy even when he was a loyal Duck fan/alum working for 1080 The Fan back in the day. Called in all the time as an unemployed early 20 something year old, met and talked with him at a few different events over the years. Just the nicest guy you could meet, and amazing at his job. Does he get Eyore sometimes? Sure he does, but for me it just mirrors what us diehards are feeling at any point in time, so I appreciate it.
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Post by tamatrix on Apr 25, 2023 20:38:09 GMT -8
Let's start some more potential reasons: 1. ASU has a pitchcom stealing device so literally stealing signs 2. Pitchers went out to special strip clubs in Tempe every night through a PHX contact 3. Pitchers all got brutal 60 hr food poisoning from a bad mexican restaurant breakfast burritos on Friday morning 4. Pitchers won't have to pitch in Arizona again....this would assume that Mike forgot about Pac-12 tourney, although sounds like he said "weekend" and most of tourney is during the week 5. Tanner Smith is transferring back home to ASU after the season and taking Wilson Weber with him and they were both telling all the hitters the pitches What else?
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Post by irimi on Apr 26, 2023 4:42:20 GMT -8
There was a game or a series in Corvallis, I believe, maybe back in 2016 or so in which Casey was upset because the opponent’s first or third base coach was well out of his box while he was relaying pitch information. I remember it because I had never given any thought to the first or third base coaches and where they stand.
So it isn’t unheard of. It happens. It’s a competitive game. You just have to outwit your competitors.
I have no clue if this is what MP was alluding to, but we can’t act like it doesn’t happen just because it is college ball.
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Post by irimi on Apr 26, 2023 4:43:37 GMT -8
unlikely the whole staff was tipping. If anything I think it would we more like what the Astros were doing. Signaling location through a sound after our catcher has set up Location does nothing if you don’t know what pitch is coming. Plus, most college pitchers don’t hit the location all the time. I don’t know why Parker said anything, but there’s a lot of wild speculation in this thread. Take away the speculation and this website would be empty.
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Post by lefty on Apr 26, 2023 9:10:08 GMT -8
Question--How does a team get beat 20-0 on Monday average 11 runs for 3 games less than a week later.,
One thing that I did notice that ASU batters took very few strike 3 calls. It was hard to see us blow 8 runs of a 10 lead in game 1, a 6 run lead in game 2 and a 5 run lead in game 3.
I think that the baseball norm of having your best reliever as the closer and 2nd best as the setup guy is wrong just like having your best hitter batting clean-up. The key situation is often prior to the 9th inning and that is when you need the out.
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Post by zeroposter on Apr 26, 2023 9:16:43 GMT -8
I love to speculate. My speculation is that the Beaver pitchers stare at their screen for an extra beat when a breaking ball is called. Several Beaver pitchers would just take a quick glance and be ready to throw. The next pitch would be a longer stare. Of course, it could be that the called pitch wasn’t on the screen yet. Anyway, I highly doubt that ASU was doing anything even remotely illegal. And it doesn’t matter for squat if the pitch isn’t close enough to at least generate some hitter interest. As some posters noted, 2-0 and 3-1 matters a lot.
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Post by cake on Apr 26, 2023 9:18:59 GMT -8
Location does nothing if you don’t know what pitch is coming. Plus, most college pitchers don’t hit the location all the time. I don’t know why Parker said anything, but there’s a lot of wild speculation in this thread. Take away the speculation and this website would be empty. Your post is speculation at best. No proof.
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