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Post by beaveragain on Apr 27, 2023 17:10:35 GMT -8
If you have a product that people are interested in and want to follow, then money will be generated to pay higher salaries. The WNBA is not that product. Interest in something is usually generated by publicity which is created by money spent. The owners have a hard cap on what they are allowed to spend on the sport. When the sports media started following Clark's accomplishments then the interest increased and they set records in views for the tournament. Your statement is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 27, 2023 17:38:14 GMT -8
If you have a product that people are interested in and want to follow, then money will be generated to pay higher salaries. The WNBA is not that product. Interest in something is usually generated by publicity which is created by money spent. The owners have a hard cap on what they are allowed to spend on the sport. When the sports media started following Clark's accomplishments then the interest increased and they set records in views for the tournament. Your statement is a self-fulfilling prophecy. So you're saying there are fortunes to be made in the WNBA and the ONLY thing lacking is vision on the part of those with substantial sums to invest? I hate to say this but despite being a big NCAA WBB fan I don't think I've ever watched a single WNBA game from start to finish. There always seemed to be something more interesting either on TV or around the house. Maybe one day...
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Post by beaveragain on Apr 27, 2023 19:03:00 GMT -8
Interest in something is usually generated by publicity which is created by money spent. The owners have a hard cap on what they are allowed to spend on the sport. When the sports media started following Clark's accomplishments then the interest increased and they set records in views for the tournament. Your statement is a self-fulfilling prophecy. So you're saying there are fortunes to be made in the WNBA and the ONLY thing lacking is vision on the part of those with substantial sums to invest? I hate to say this but despite being a big NCAA WBB fan I don't think I've ever watched a single WNBA game from start to finish. There always seemed to be something more interesting either on TV or around the house. Maybe one day... I have to admit that your personal viewing habits wasn't what I was talking about. My all knowingness is rather limited but I do think that if they don't spend any money on advertising the game it shouldn't be a surprise that few people watch it. People heard exciting things about the college tournament so they watched it. They hear nothing of the WNBA so they don't watch it. Doesn't seem like a complicated concept.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 27, 2023 21:19:01 GMT -8
So you're saying there are fortunes to be made in the WNBA and the ONLY thing lacking is vision on the part of those with substantial sums to invest? I hate to say this but despite being a big NCAA WBB fan I don't think I've ever watched a single WNBA game from start to finish. There always seemed to be something more interesting either on TV or around the house. Maybe one day... I have to admit that your personal viewing habits wasn't what I was talking about. My all knowingness is rather limited but I do think that if they don't spend any money on advertising the game it shouldn't be a surprise that few people watch it. People heard exciting things about the college tournament so they watched it. They hear nothing of the WNBA so they don't watch it. Doesn't seem like a complicated concept. You really think the problem is that sports fans don’t know WNBA games are there for the watching? I don’t think that’s an issue.
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Post by orangeblood on Apr 27, 2023 21:26:00 GMT -8
Ford spent a lot of money publicizing the Edsel
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Post by beaveragain on Apr 27, 2023 21:26:19 GMT -8
I have to admit that your personal viewing habits wasn't what I was talking about. My all knowingness is rather limited but I do think that if they don't spend any money on advertising the game it shouldn't be a surprise that few people watch it. People heard exciting things about the college tournament so they watched it. They hear nothing of the WNBA so they don't watch it. Doesn't seem like a complicated concept. You really think the problem is that sports fans don’t know WNBA games are there for the watching? I don’t think that’s an issue. You really think advertising has no effect on people?
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Post by grad1973 on Apr 28, 2023 1:50:16 GMT -8
Seems to be a bit of a head scratcher addition at this point---another wing to go along with the 9 other wings we now have on the team??....I'll wait for greybeav or someone else to post some video of her in action to see if we can figure this one out? At this point we are going into next season with 1 backup pg and 2 posts and 10 wings! It’s not a head scratcher we are going to be the new UCLA on the block. We will be fast enough with a bunch of wings like UCLA used to be, to win the pac 12……
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Post by rmancarl on Apr 28, 2023 8:34:36 GMT -8
Seems to be a bit of a head scratcher addition at this point---another wing to go along with the 9 other wings we now have on the team??....I'll wait for greybeav or someone else to post some video of her in action to see if we can figure this one out? At this point we are going into next season with 1 backup pg and 2 posts and 10 wings! It’s not a head scratcher we are going to be the new UCLA on the block. We will be fast enough with a bunch of wings like UCLA used to be, to win the pac 12…… I'm guessing you are referencing a pre Cori Close UCLA. Cori's done a great job with that program and has had great recruiting classes, including landing the #1 rated class and top 10 recruits. She's had fast players. She's had good post players. She's brought in high level international players. She's had just about everything a team could want, but she hasn't been able to win the Pac12. She's watched Standford, Oregon, Oregon State, Arizona, Washington all make the final four, but with the talent she's had, she hasn't been able to win the NCAA championship. Maybe this coming year, her final chance with UCLA, she will win the Pac12. She now has the #1 and #2 rated recruits of 2022 on her team, but just because of history, UCLA won't be my pre-season pick to win the Pac12......as if my pick means anything. Now, back to this thread......Susana Yepes......interesting addition to the team. Was it those six 3's in one game that gave the final "yeah, let's get her on board"? I'm really interested in seeing what the Beavs do with Susana.
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Post by greybeav on May 25, 2023 23:44:29 GMT -8
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Post by Werebeaver on May 26, 2023 6:08:38 GMT -8
You really think the problem is that sports fans don’t know WNBA games are there for the watching? I don’t think that’s an issue. You really think advertising has no effect on people? I don’t think it has “no effect”. But the best “advertising” by far is positive word of mouth and sincere enthusiasm from consumers. That is transmitted by personal interactions, not big commercial advertising buys.
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Post by sparty on May 26, 2023 9:11:49 GMT -8
My grade D on Scott’s use of the portal does not seem to be too far off.
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Post by rmancarl on May 26, 2023 10:41:38 GMT -8
My grade D on Scott’s use of the portal does not seem to be too far off. Susana hasn't nothing to do with a portal grade, since she is a JC transfer, but I agree with you. Another year has passed, and unless there is a last minute mystery find, this is another year that the staff was unable to hit a homerun in the portal. The two players who were landed in the portal, will help with depth, and may show us a bit more than some expected, but they are far from the homerun that could have made a real difference. The staff seems pretty content on hanging in there with the five sophomores, a freshman class of 3 that I think is underrated, and their two juniors and letting them develop. It's worked in the past for the Beavs when that 'youth' was talented, so we'll see if it works again. It's tougher now because teams can land that homerun in the portal and jump passed you. I do believe the current team has the talent to be good if they stick together as upperclassmen, but so few teams are able to hold on to their talent for 3-4 years.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on May 26, 2023 15:49:17 GMT -8
My grade D on Scott’s use of the portal does not seem to be too far off. Out of curiosity, what grade do you give Graves considering he lost the No. 5 and No. 7 transfers?
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Post by rgeorge on May 26, 2023 17:55:40 GMT -8
My grade D on Scott’s use of the portal does not seem to be too far off. Out of curiosity, what grade do you give Graves considering he lost the No. 5 and No. 7 transfers? You don't deserve to be graded on players choosing to leave. It's their prerogative and there are many reasons for it. Funny, did SR deserve an "D" or "F" for the great recruits that didn't pan out and/or decided to leave over the last 5 or so seasons? Coaches should get graded on how they handle the losses. That is transfers or portal additions.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on May 26, 2023 18:11:17 GMT -8
Out of curiosity, what grade do you give Graves considering he lost the No. 5 and No. 7 transfers? You don't deserve to be graded on players choosing to leave. It's their prerogative and there are many reasons for it. Funny, did SR deserve an "D" or "F" for the great recruits that didn't pan out and/or decided to leave over the last 5 or so seasons? Coaches should get graded on how they handle the losses. That is transfers or portal additions. I’ve always looked at it more as net gains and losses, but everyone has their own way of analyzing the portal. OSU didn’t really have any impact portal losses, didn’t bring in any major impact players, so I’d say that’s about neutral. Oregon lost two top-10 transfers and a promising freshman and hasn’t added anyone in the top-35 but has added some solid/talented mid-major players. I’d probably say a net negative, but I guess one could argue either way. And, yes, Rueck has definitely been in the D/F range in the portal the past few years. I don’t think many here would argue against that.
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