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Post by bennysdentist on Apr 4, 2023 17:56:08 GMT -8
Boo
Good luck Glenn
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Post by chicagobeav on Apr 4, 2023 19:52:17 GMT -8
Good luck to the young man - some “greener” opportunities out there
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 4, 2023 19:53:17 GMT -8
"After careful consideration and reflection with my family," and now that my scholarship is paid because the term started yesterday, I'm outta here.
To paraphrase Jimmy Buffet, "please don't say you're staying if you don't mean it."
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Apr 4, 2023 19:58:43 GMT -8
Teams coming off back to back 20+ loss seasons can’t afford to lose much talent like this. Gonna be interesting to see if we can pick up anyone who is starting caliber
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Post by avidbeaver on Apr 4, 2023 20:00:21 GMT -8
He said he wants to further develop his skills by transferring. That doesn't exactly sound like an endorsement of the coaching staff. I could be taking it the wrong way but that didn't sound good.
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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 5, 2023 6:18:35 GMT -8
He said he wants to further develop his skills by transferring. That doesn't exactly sound like an endorsement of the coaching staff. I could be taking it the wrong way but that didn't sound good. His announcement was pretty normal boilerplate type stuff. I wouldn’t read too much into that. I’m sure we’ll see plenty of negative posts about Tinkle with this, and I really don’t blame him that much. This is what college basketball has become. That said, I’m not saying he gets a pass. Two years ago he tried the transfer route as his main strategy for roster building and we know how that went. This past year he went primarily with HS recruits and the results weren’t particularly good, but I think that there was some hope at least that something might be able to be built. We know every team for the most part is going to lose players to the portal. The key is which ones. Unfortunately, Taylor was not one the Beavs could afford to lose. But his loss is not an excuse if the team doesn’t keep developing. OSU might not be an easy place to win, but that is what Tinkle signed up for and it is his job. After the 3 win debacle, I was prepared that WT would be the coach through this next year because of economics and the Elite 8 run. But if next year’s team doesn’t take a step forward and the buyout on his contract isn’t prohibitive, it’s time to show WT the door. Will the next head coach have better results? I don’t know. But another year like this one shows me that WT is not able to navigate the current landscape of college basketball. Move on and see if the next guy can. And the argument that we won’t be able to bring in a guy with WT’s credentials holds no water as far as I’m concerned. There are good basketball coaches out there. There are good coaches out there who would take the job. Heck, give me a coach from a “mid majorish” type program who has had success the past 2-3 years. Those kinds of schools are seeing their best players leave too. If that coach has continued to find success then it shows me he’s been able to navigate through NIL and the portal well enough to have sustain success. Good luck to Glenn. Sorry to see him go, but oh well. |
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Post by lebaneaver on Apr 5, 2023 7:45:33 GMT -8
Shocking. 💩
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 5, 2023 7:49:29 GMT -8
Losing Taylor is nothing a coach with significant accomplishments in the transfer portal can't overcome. Oh wait.
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Post by rafer on Apr 5, 2023 7:49:35 GMT -8
Pretty big loss for a team that lost 20 games. Ugh. Not something I wanted to see BUh buh, Don't let the door.......!! |
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Post by chicagobeav on Apr 5, 2023 8:01:15 GMT -8
This is the college environment right now - kids are free agents, can shop around for the best situation and best NIL payment they can get - if beaver nation really is interested in having a better BB team the ya gotta pony up the cash - because if you want players to come here that can help the program right now - the reality is pay-to-play
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Post by beaverology on Apr 5, 2023 8:16:27 GMT -8
What's sad is a Mountain West team like San Diego State pays their MBB players $2,000/month and OSU can't even match that. How about Jarod Lucas leaving for Nevada last year for $100,000 NIL? It kinda shows how little people care about OSU basketball and how we're not equipped to compete at basic levels of competitive basketball in the Pac12 (or Mountain West). The 2021 Pac12 title and NCAA elite 8 run were truly remarkable 2 years ago. That won't be happening again.
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Post by alwaysorange on Apr 5, 2023 8:35:49 GMT -8
Wonder what happens to all these high priced NIL athletes when the IRS comes knocking.
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Post by beaverbeliever on Apr 5, 2023 9:00:40 GMT -8
What's sad is a Mountain West team like San Diego State pays their MBB players $2,000/month and OSU can't even match that. How about Jarod Lucas leaving for Nevada last year for $100,000 NIL? It kinda shows how little people care about OSU basketball and how we're not equipped to compete at basic levels of competitive basketball in the Pac12 (or Mountain West). The 2021 Pac12 title and NCAA elite 8 run were truly remarkable 2 years ago. That won't be happening again. We have limited resources. They should be focused on football, and I'm sure the vast majority of the fanbase agrees. If we can only win at one (and that's true for most schools), football should be it. |
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Post by oandb on Apr 5, 2023 9:10:38 GMT -8
Yes- but football is a huge number of athletes. Basketball isn’t. Beavs need to pony up. Sad reality.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 5, 2023 11:02:09 GMT -8
He said he wants to further develop his skills by transferring. That doesn't exactly sound like an endorsement of the coaching staff. I could be taking it the wrong way but that didn't sound good. His announcement was pretty normal boilerplate type stuff. I wouldn’t read too much into that. I’m sure we’ll see plenty of negative posts about Tinkle with this, and I really don’t blame him that much. This is what college basketball has become. That said, I’m not saying he gets a pass. Two years ago he tried the transfer route as his main strategy for roster building and we know how that went. This past year he went primarily with HS recruits and the results weren’t particularly good, but I think that there was some hope at least that something might be able to be built. We know every team for the most part is going to lose players to the portal. The key is which ones. Unfortunately, Taylor was not one the Beavs could afford to lose. But his loss is not an excuse if the team doesn’t keep developing. OSU might not be an easy place to win, but that is what Tinkle signed up for and it is his job. After the 3 win debacle, I was prepared that WT would be the coach through this next year because of economics and the Elite 8 run. But if next year’s team doesn’t take a step forward and the buyout on his contract isn’t prohibitive, it’s time to show WT the door. Will the next head coach have better results? I don’t know. But another year like this one shows me that WT is not able to navigate the current landscape of college basketball. Move on and see if the next guy can. And the argument that we won’t be able to bring in a guy with WT’s credentials holds no water as far as I’m concerned. There are good basketball coaches out there. There are good coaches out there who would take the job. Heck, give me a coach from a “mid majorish” type program who has had success the past 2-3 years. Those kinds of schools are seeing their best players leave too. If that coach has continued to find success then it shows me he’s been able to navigate through NIL and the portal well enough to have sustain success. Good luck to Glenn. Sorry to see him go, but oh well. And equally... we'll also see future posts using GT Jr as the next (or one of the next) excuses for abject mediocrity. I would guess that every poster here has no objection to the type of man WT is. I would also guess if they hadn't, they also know of the recent decades of futility of the OSU hoops program... of which WT's (9) seasons are firmly entrenched. The NIL, the portal, what the university spends on a program are constants for every school. They are not excuses for the overall state of a program, quality coaches find a way to work within what they have and still produce results. As stated above there are MANY quality coaches at all levels of college hoops. And, "NO", to the response that there is some guarantee of success, just like there is none for year 10 under WT. Most of the OSU fans that attend/watch this program with an objective eye can see the program lacks many key components for any sustained success. Unless there is some unexpected huge influx of talent from the portal (see past portal results... no reason to think it is happening) next season will be much the same. The HS recruits coming in are not even the level of last season HS recruits. They are projects (in terms of Pac12 play and "yes" some of us have actually seen some of them in person not highlight tapes) and will get significant minutes because they have to. Posters on here can banter back and forth all the same old nonsense. But, the consistent inconsistency, the overall numbers, and the trend as compared to what other Pac12 programs are doing (sans Cal... but, who did make a move to attempt to improve) tell the story. Good luck to GT Jr... hope he finds a good fit somewhere. Rumor mill in Reno is that he might be headed there as he was recruited by Alford and he and Jarod are pretty close. We'll see? |
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