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Post by chinmusic on Feb 5, 2023 23:05:22 GMT -8
By virtue of their updated player rankings, Prep Baseball Report thinks they are pretty good. OSU recruits are ranked by class year.
2023: #2 LHP Paul Wilson, #4 RHP Drew Talavs, #5 IF Levi Jones, #8 RHP Dane Lais. OSU has 4 of the top -8 in the state. Jesuit's Noble Meyer is the #1ranked player - UO commit and projected mid first round MLB Draft pick.
2024: #1 C Ryan Vanden Brink. State's best player and the only OSU recruit in this Oregon class.
2025: #2 C Mark Weipert and # 3 IF/P River Hamilton, and #7 LHP Calvin Gregory. Oregon's #1 ranked player is C Isaac Pfeiffer who is committed to Arizona State.
2026: #2 C Teagan Scott, #3 RHP Grady Saunders. Oregon's #1 is LHP Kruz Schoolcraft who shows as being uncommitted.
2027: #1 RHP Grady Sickler. Off to a great start.
In summary, In the next 5 classes, Oregon State has commitments from two number 1's, three number 2's, two number 3's, one number 4, one number 5, one number 7 and a number 8
I have always felt that landing a Top-10 player in Oregon was desirable because you re getting a good ball player and a kid with some allegiance to the local Universities. State rankings have always been a little more meaningful than national rankings. It's much easier to identify the 10 best prospects in Oregon than to identify and rank the Top-500 players nationally. It is a legitimate argument to say Joe Smith is the 4th best player in Oregon as opposed to the 6th best player. How accurately can you say Joe Smith is ranked #234 nationally as opposed to him being #428? State rankings just seem more relevant in player comparisons.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Feb 7, 2023 12:58:52 GMT -8
Getting top in-state recruits begets more top in-state recruits. You want to be the destination school for local kids. We continue to be that, aside from the occasional kid who wants to go to a warmer climate, or maybe qualifies academically for Furd, or wants to be a quack for whatever reason.
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Post by qbeaver on Feb 7, 2023 15:17:44 GMT -8
The key is to get the top players to enroll at osu. Signing top players and have them sign with MLB is an issue with every school,because osu does a great job of evaluation and a kid blows up.
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Post by ricke71 on May 27, 2023 16:39:28 GMT -8
If Wilson comes to Corvallis, and Noble elects to ride busses between Hillsboro and Tri-Cities, I'd rate Beav in-state recruiting as 'primo'. By mid-Summer 2023, it will become clear.
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Post by joecool on May 27, 2023 18:30:49 GMT -8
If Wilson comes to Corvallis, and Noble elects to ride busses between Hillsboro and Tri-Cities, I'd rate Beav in-state recruiting as 'primo'. By mid-Summer 2023, it will become clear. How would you rate it when both sign pro contracts? |
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Post by chinmusic on May 27, 2023 19:52:44 GMT -8
It is within the realm of possibility that both the ducks and the Beavers will lose their their top-2 recruits in the '23 class.
oregon is faced with losing Jesuit pitcher, Noble Meyer in the 1st round of the July draft. Meyer is ranked as low as the 5th best prep prospect in the nation and the best HS pitcher in the land. Noble could be turning down as much as $6-7 mil to play in Eugene. The quacks will probably lose 6-4, 215 pound SS Eric Bitonti from Hesperia, CA. in the 2nd round. Eric is a polished slugger with pro ball pedigree. He's ranked in the 15-16 range as a prospect.
The Beavers stand to lose 3B Trent Caraway from Dana Point, CA. who has an MLB hit tool in his poke. Most projections are late 2nd or 3rd round. LHP Paul Wilson has been climbing back up on the draft boards and could go in the first 3 rounds as well.
Forecasting the draft is near impossible (Gavin Turley ring a bell?) but all 4 of these exceptionally talented youngsters are early round draft material. Where does education fit in and how bad do they want to play college baseball for 3 years?
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Post by tamatrix on May 27, 2023 20:39:20 GMT -8
Wilson is gone all...he has a # set and it's pretty realistic for a team to match it....we'll see but I'm assuming he's gone
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 28, 2023 14:07:45 GMT -8
If Wilson comes to Corvallis, and Noble elects to ride busses between Hillsboro and Tri-Cities, I'd rate Beav in-state recruiting as 'primo'. By mid-Summer 2023, it will become clear. How would you rate it when both sign pro contracts? Losing players to the MLB is going to happen for any top tier school. It only affects the effectiveness of our recruiting if we don't account for it. Mitch and crew are pretty good at having backups and obviously understand that they will lose our on some super talents. Even bigger is that we still send plenty of guys up even when we are losing the top talents. |
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Post by easyheat on May 28, 2023 16:32:09 GMT -8
Yes, the depth of your class is important, especially if you excel at player development. Prep players on those Top-500 lists are all good players, and if you can develop kids that are not drafted out of high school, in 3 years some will be drafted after developing in your program.
We lose highly touted pitchers, Ian Oxvenad (Cardinals), Mick Abel (Phillies), Tyler Gough (Mariners) and now possibly Paul Wilson. A risk inherent with recruiting coveted pitching prospects. Coaches say, "never cry over spilled milk" - move on and focus on who you kept.
Oregon State continues to recruit big-body Studs en masse with pro potential that throw B-B's - DeCremer, Talevs, Morrell, Segura, Johnson, Lais, Corey, Palmer, McKowen, Edwards, Swanson, Haight, Whitney, Hyde, Sorenson, and young Kmatz. These are all '23 and '24 committed pitchers. . . . to name a few! LOL
More arms than innings available?
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Post by ag87 on May 28, 2023 17:03:45 GMT -8
Yes, the depth of your class is important, especially if you excel at player development. Prep players on those Top-500 lists are all good players, and if you can develop kids that are not drafted out of high school, in 3 years some will be drafted after developing in your program. We lose highly touted pitchers, Ian Oxvenad (Cardinals), Mick Abel (Phillies), Tyler Gough (Mariners) and now possibly Paul Wilson. A risk inherent with recruiting coveted pitching prospects. Coaches say, "never cry over spilled milk" - move on and focus on who you kept. Oregon State continues to recruit big-body Studs en masse with pro potential that throw B-B's - DeCremer, Talevs, Morrell, Segura, Johnson, Lais, Corey, Palmer, McKowen, Edwards, Swanson, Haight, Whitney, Hyde, Sorenson, and young Kmatz. These are all '23 and '24 committed pitchers. . . . to name a few! LOL More arms than innings available? I'd like some guys who throw strikes and get outs even if their back plan isn't to be an O-lineman (like maybe Christian Chamberlain). |
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Post by chinmusic on May 28, 2023 17:53:48 GMT -8
I think you have to differentiate good strikes from bad strikes. A strike on the margins of the zone is a good strike and midle-middle of the zone is not. In Scottsdale we threw plenty of strikes, so many in fact that our opponents converted 40 of them into base hits in two games including 14 extra base blows.
It isn't about filling up the zone, it's about filling up the right areas of the zone.
We have some young arms that are learning, "throwing meat will get you beat".
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Post by hottubbeaver on May 30, 2023 13:41:24 GMT -8
Yes, the depth of your class is important, especially if you excel at player development. Prep players on those Top-500 lists are all good players, and if you can develop kids that are not drafted out of high school, in 3 years some will be drafted after developing in your program. We lose highly touted pitchers, Ian Oxvenad (Cardinals), Mick Abel (Phillies), Tyler Gough (Mariners) and now possibly Paul Wilson. A risk inherent with recruiting coveted pitching prospects. Coaches say, "never cry over spilled milk" - move on and focus on who you kept. Oregon State continues to recruit big-body Studs en masse with pro potential that throw B-B's - DeCremer, Talevs, Morrell, Segura, Johnson, Lais, Corey, Palmer, McKowen, Edwards, Swanson, Haight, Whitney, Hyde, Sorenson, and young Kmatz. These are all '23 and '24 committed pitchers. . . . to name a few! LOL More arms than innings available? What's the story with Corey? I was looking at OSAA results last week and didn't see him listed in pitch counts so looked on team roster and didn't find his name on there either. Did he transfer to a different high school? |
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Post by rgeorge on May 30, 2023 15:18:05 GMT -8
Yes, the depth of your class is important, especially if you excel at player development. Prep players on those Top-500 lists are all good players, and if you can develop kids that are not drafted out of high school, in 3 years some will be drafted after developing in your program. We lose highly touted pitchers, Ian Oxvenad (Cardinals), Mick Abel (Phillies), Tyler Gough (Mariners) and now possibly Paul Wilson. A risk inherent with recruiting coveted pitching prospects. Coaches say, "never cry over spilled milk" - move on and focus on who you kept. Oregon State continues to recruit big-body Studs en masse with pro potential that throw B-B's - DeCremer, Talevs, Morrell, Segura, Johnson, Lais, Corey, Palmer, McKowen, Edwards, Swanson, Haight, Whitney, Hyde, Sorenson, and young Kmatz. These are all '23 and '24 committed pitchers. . . . to name a few! LOL More arms than innings available? What's the story with Corey? I was looking at OSAA results last week and didn't see him listed in pitch counts so looked on team roster and didn't find his name on there either. Did he transfer to a different high school? Easton missed the entire season with elbow surgery. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on May 30, 2023 15:44:38 GMT -8
What's the story with Corey? I was looking at OSAA results last week and didn't see him listed in pitch counts so looked on team roster and didn't find his name on there either. Did he transfer to a different high school? Easton missed the entire season with elbow surgery. That explains it. Sucks to lose your senior season especially for team one win away from championship game. |
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Post by Bodhisattva on May 30, 2023 16:49:33 GMT -8
ESPN mock draft had Meyer going 13 and Caraway going 37 in 1st round.
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