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Post by ricke71 on Jan 17, 2023 10:51:10 GMT -8
D-1 BB Perfect Game College BB Nation
Stanford 3 3 3
UCLA 17 12 9
OSU - 23* 25
UO 25 20 34
ASU - - 20
* PAC-12 Freshman of the Year = Gavin Turley
Pre-season polls pick LSU #1.
Of course, a full month before the beginning of the season, polls mean 'nada'
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Post by bbaq on Jan 17, 2023 12:28:28 GMT -8
Typical sec has 9 in the top 25 so every game is against a ranked team until the final when the majority of them in the 26-50.
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 17, 2023 16:21:25 GMT -8
Wasn't it 2017 that OSU was a pre-season #1? (I could be mistaken). Anyway, they 'made good' 1 year later.
Stanford seems to be the consensus PAC-12 favorite. They've made the field of 64 five years in a row...and have gone to Omaha the past two seasons (where they have been a combined 1-4 record).
They haven't been National Champs in 34 years. Ouch!
Unfortunately, Stanford doesn't come to Corvallis this year (only Beav - Tree series is Mar 17-19 at Sunken Diamond)
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Post by BeaverG20 on Jan 17, 2023 20:28:07 GMT -8
Is Stanford areally that good? I'll believe it if they sweep Fullerton in the early season match up they tend to lose.
Stanford is basically the Pac-12 version of Florida State. Everybody picks them to be great, but they usually fizzle out.
/s
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 17, 2023 22:25:29 GMT -8
Is Stanford areally that good? I'll believe it if they sweep Fullerton in the early season match up they tend to lose. Stanford is basically the Pac-12 version of Florida State. Everybody picks them to be great, but they usually fizzle out. /s Stanford: Hosted five straight regionals, and three straight super regionals. post-Covid (the past two seasons), Stanford is a combined 39-19 in PAC-12 regular season; and they were 4-0 in last years PAC-12 Tournament. 2021 3rd Place PAC-12 2022 1st Place PAC-12 + Pac-12 Tourney champs Last two seasons: Won 2 Regionals, and Won 2 Super-Regionals Last Season took Cal State Fullerton series 2-1. Granted, they've 'fizzled' both years in Omaha, but that's still a pretty strong record. |
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Post by BeaverG20 on Jan 18, 2023 10:53:10 GMT -8
Is Stanford areally that good? I'll believe it if they sweep Fullerton in the early season match up they tend to lose. Stanford is basically the Pac-12 version of Florida State. Everybody picks them to be great, but they usually fizzle out. /s Stanford: Hosted five straight regionals, and three straight super regionals. post-Covid (the past two seasons), Stanford is a combined 39-19 in PAC-12 regular season; and they were 4-0 in last years PAC-12 Tournament. 2021 3rd Place PAC-12 2022 1st Place PAC-12 + Pac-12 Tourney champs Last two seasons: Won 2 Regionals, and Won 2 Super-Regionals Last Season took Cal State Fullerton series 2-1. Granted, they've 'fizzled' both years in Omaha, but that's still a pretty strong record. That's why the /s. It meant sarcasm. It'll be a fun season, I'm sure. |
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 18, 2023 11:09:28 GMT -8
oh! I get it! (I'm too old to know all of the latest nomenclatures).
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 18, 2023 13:54:18 GMT -8
Wasn't it 2017 that OSU was a pre-season #1? (I could be mistaken). Anyway, they 'made good' 1 year later. Stanford seems to be the consensus PAC-12 favorite. They've made the field of 64 five years in a row...and have gone to Omaha the past two seasons (where they have been a combined 1-4 record). They haven't been National Champs in 34 years. Ouch! Unfortunately, Stanford doesn't come to Corvallis this year (only Beav - Tree series is Mar 17-19 at Sunken Diamond) I am unaware of Oregon State ever being a preseason #1. The Beavers were a unanimous top 10 team in 2017, but TCU was the unanimous #1. Oregon State was fifth in the Collegiate Baseball poll, but that was the Beavers' best ranking, I think. TCU lost in the semifinal in 2015 to eventual runner-up Vanderbilt and in 2016 to the eventual champion Coastal Carolina. The Frogs and returned eight of nine starters, all three starting pitchers, and their closer. And their best player was freshman Nick Lodolo, who came on after Mitchell Traver was injured at the end of February. TCU finished as the #6 National Seed and lost to Florida in the semifinal opposite Oregon State in 2017. After playing and losing in three consecutive national semifinals, TCU missed the 2018 postseason and did not escape a Regional in 2019, 2021, or 2022. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jan 18, 2023 14:00:44 GMT -8
The curious thing to me is normally D1 is as high on the Beavs as anyone, and they don't have us ranked.
It may be mainly my own bias, but I find it hard to believe that this team isn't top 25. I know we lost quite a bit, but we are also loaded with young talent.....the big losses were to the draft. Those who transferred out did so because they were going to be riding the pine.
I see a pretty balanced team. Good pitching depth.....good defense.....super fast.....some good pop at the plate. I think we are being underrated based on who we lost....not enough attention to who we have on the team now.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 18, 2023 16:20:54 GMT -8
The curious thing to me is normally D1 is as high on the Beavs as anyone, and they don't have us ranked. It may be mainly my own bias, but I find it hard to believe that this team isn't top 25. I know we lost quite a bit, but we are also loaded with young talent.....the big losses were to the draft. Those who transferred out did so because they were going to be riding the pine. I see a pretty balanced team. Good pitching depth.....good defense.....super fast.....some good pop at the plate. I think we are being underrated based on who we lost....not enough attention to who we have on the team now. The general lack of lefty pitchers is worrisome. Cooper Hjerpe leaves a gargantuan hole in the staff. Probably the best pitcher in at least 25 years at Oregon State. Truly a generational talent. Please somebody let me know, who fills that hole, just so I can stop worrying. You lose all three members of the best outfield in Oregon State history. A second just huge hole. You lose the best catcher since Rutschman. A third large hole. You lose your second-best starter in Jake Pfennigs. A fourth gaping hole You have a huge question mark at third base. A fifth hole to fill. There are a ton of empty boxes there. Seven of your best players from 2022 are gone. Hopefully, Canham checks all those boxes. Otherwise, I generally agree with you. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 18, 2023 16:34:28 GMT -8
The curious thing to me is normally D1 is as high on the Beavs as anyone, and they don't have us ranked. It may be mainly my own bias, but I find it hard to believe that this team isn't top 25. I know we lost quite a bit, but we are also loaded with young talent.....the big losses were to the draft. Those who transferred out did so because they were going to be riding the pine. I see a pretty balanced team. Good pitching depth.....good defense.....super fast.....some good pop at the plate. I think we are being underrated based on who we lost....not enough attention to who we have on the team now. The general lack of lefty pitchers is worrisome. Cooper Hjerpe leaves a gargantuan hole in the staff. Probably the best pitcher in at least 25 years at Oregon State. Truly a generational talent. Please somebody let me know, who fills that hole, just so I can stop worrying. You lose all three members of the best outfield in Oregon State history. A second just huge hole. You lose the best catcher since Rutschman. A third large hole. You lose your second-best starter in Jake Pfennigs. A fourth gaping hole You have a huge question mark at third base. A fifth hole to fill. There are a ton of empty boxes there. Seven of your best players from 2022 are gone. Hopefully, Canham checks all those boxes. Otherwise, I generally agree with you. Not too worried about the catcher and third base holes (we didn't get much offensive production out of 3B last year), but losing the whole outfield and two of our starting pitchers is exactly why we're not ranked. Tanner Smith should be able to fill the catching role. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 18, 2023 16:38:05 GMT -8
The general lack of lefty pitchers is worrisome. Cooper Hjerpe leaves a gargantuan hole in the staff. Probably the best pitcher in at least 25 years at Oregon State. Truly a generational talent. Please somebody let me know, who fills that hole, just so I can stop worrying. You lose all three members of the best outfield in Oregon State history. A second just huge hole. You lose the best catcher since Rutschman. A third large hole. You lose your second-best starter in Jake Pfennigs. A fourth gaping hole You have a huge question mark at third base. A fifth hole to fill. There are a ton of empty boxes there. Seven of your best players from 2022 are gone. Hopefully, Canham checks all those boxes. Otherwise, I generally agree with you. Not too worried about the catcher and third base holes (we didn't get much offensive production out of 3B last year), but losing the whole outfield and two of our starting pitchers is exactly why we're not ranked. Tanner Smith should be able to fill the catching role. The hot corner is a tough place to play. I want to see someone there, who is consistent both offensively and defensively. I tend to agree that we have someone to take up Gavin "Wolverine" Logan's mantle. But Logan was great, game in and game out, both offensively and defensively. Tanner Smith has big shoes to fill. I am not saying that he can't. I just haven't seen it yet. |
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jan 18, 2023 20:03:07 GMT -8
… why we play the game….
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jan 19, 2023 7:56:10 GMT -8
The curious thing to me is normally D1 is as high on the Beavs as anyone, and they don't have us ranked. It may be mainly my own bias, but I find it hard to believe that this team isn't top 25. I know we lost quite a bit, but we are also loaded with young talent.....the big losses were to the draft. Those who transferred out did so because they were going to be riding the pine. I see a pretty balanced team. Good pitching depth.....good defense.....super fast.....some good pop at the plate. I think we are being underrated based on who we lost....not enough attention to who we have on the team now. The general lack of lefty pitchers is worrisome. Cooper Hjerpe leaves a gargantuan hole in the staff. Probably the best pitcher in at least 25 years at Oregon State. Truly a generational talent. Please somebody let me know, who fills that hole, just so I can stop worrying. You lose all three members of the best outfield in Oregon State history. A second just huge hole. You lose the best catcher since Rutschman. A third large hole. You lose your second-best starter in Jake Pfennigs. A fourth gaping hole You have a huge question mark at third base. A fifth hole to fill. There are a ton of empty boxes there. Seven of your best players from 2022 are gone. Hopefully, Canham checks all those boxes. Otherwise, I generally agree with you. Well, when you put it like that! We return Bazzana, Forrester. We should be better at 3rd. Guerra has a very high ceiling, and should produce better than Dukart/Gretler, etc... That Cedillo kid looks legit. Trosky is gonna be a baller. Some very competitive AB's last season Pre-season Pac 12 frosh of year in Turley Tyree Reed should be ready.. McDowell breakout? He lit it up over the summer. Brady Kasper is developing Smith/Weber behind the plate....ton of potential there. TJ Wheeler is back. Krieg is a monster of a man....looking forward to seeing him hit some bombs. As for pitching....I think Ferrer or Kmatz take Friday.....Lattery could be Sat.....Quinn closer? Mundt? Cope? Lawson? Lots to prove......just like always. Didn't Canham say this is the most team speed he's ever had? I believe it. Should be a fun season. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 19, 2023 13:19:05 GMT -8
The general lack of lefty pitchers is worrisome. Cooper Hjerpe leaves a gargantuan hole in the staff. Probably the best pitcher in at least 25 years at Oregon State. Truly a generational talent. Please somebody let me know, who fills that hole, just so I can stop worrying. You lose all three members of the best outfield in Oregon State history. A second just huge hole. You lose the best catcher since Rutschman. A third large hole. You lose your second-best starter in Jake Pfennigs. A fourth gaping hole You have a huge question mark at third base. A fifth hole to fill. There are a ton of empty boxes there. Seven of your best players from 2022 are gone. Hopefully, Canham checks all those boxes. Otherwise, I generally agree with you. Well, when you put it like that! We return Bazzana, Forrester. We should be better at 3rd. Guerra has a very high ceiling, and should produce better than Dukart/Gretler, etc... That Cedillo kid looks legit. Trosky is gonna be a baller. Some very competitive AB's last season Pre-season Pac 12 frosh of year in Turley Tyree Reed should be ready.. McDowell breakout? He lit it up over the summer. Brady Kasper is developing Smith/Weber behind the plate....ton of potential there. TJ Wheeler is back. Krieg is a monster of a man....looking forward to seeing him hit some bombs. As for pitching....I think Ferrer or Kmatz take Friday.....Lattery could be Sat.....Quinn closer? Mundt? Cope? Lawson? Lots to prove......just like always. Didn't Canham say this is the most team speed he's ever had? I believe it. Should be a fun season. Guerra has a high ceiling, but Guerra is a shortstop. And Guerra was trying to pick up third base and did not the entire year. It may click this year, but, sometimes, it just never does. I tend to think that third base is a very undervalued defensive position. I took Gretler for granted, but Oregon State still misses him. A third baseman, who is consistently good playing the hot corner and also hitting is a rare breed. Guerra might be that guy. He was a highly-valued prospect, but he is still trying to pick up a new position. I hope it clicks for him in year two, but, sometimes, it just never does. You threw out seven pitchers. All of them are righties. I don't know. I hear words like "ceiling" and "potential," and I start to worry. I start to see that every pitcher, who everyone is throwing around as seeing significant playing time is a RHP, and I start to get real nervous. I probably will worry less , once the first pitch is thrown. Until then............ |
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