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Post by grackle on Jun 27, 2022 8:38:47 GMT -8
Coming into the Stanford series at Goss, we were flying high...'just swept the $chmUck$, we were rated #2 (or maybe even #1) nationally and we were going toe to toe (0-0) with Stanford late in the Friday opener of that series. Then it started to fall apart: Instead of runners at 2nd and 3rd bases, one out...our 3rd base coach decided to wave the lead runner home, he's out at the plate and now its two outs with just one runner on base. We never recover and go on to lose an OT heartbreaker to Stan. We went on to lose the series to Stanford.
To my eyes we were never quite the same team after that fateful play. Yes, we played a number of good teams in the weeks following the Stanford series, but in many games that followed, we started making uncharacteristic errors in the field, many more poor at bats, terrible clutch hitting and (it seemed) just a general downturn in the team's faith in itself. The result was a team markedly underperforming vs. the record it had achieved in earlier games.
Maybe momentum really does have more of an impact on baseball than meets the eye.
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Post by ricke71 on Jun 27, 2022 8:52:03 GMT -8
Unless I'm totally confused: the Stanford series at Goss was in early April. Sweep of Ducks was in early May.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 27, 2022 9:02:05 GMT -8
Yeah the Stanford series was first weekend of April. Ducks were all late April early May. After Furd series we lost 1 game to gonzaga, 1 game to Utah. Until Between the end of Stanford and the start of Arizona we were 19-2.
Things fell apart against the top of the conference.
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Post by grackle on Jun 27, 2022 9:05:44 GMT -8
'Ricke -- My bad ..... screwed up the schedule...maybe that loss to Stanford effected me more than the team!!
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Post by william44 on Jun 27, 2022 10:24:01 GMT -8
Stanford series I was in Hawaii on a cruise April1 st. Following game at dinner in Honolulu. I do not blame the coach for sending. We did however run ourselves out of innings 4 or 5 times during year.
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Post by ochobeavo on Jun 27, 2022 12:36:53 GMT -8
We won 20 of the next 22 after the Stanford series. Otherwise, totally spot on.
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Post by qbeaver on Jun 27, 2022 12:48:34 GMT -8
Lol...not any holes in that theory jk
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Post by chicagobeav on Jun 27, 2022 12:50:50 GMT -8
For me - when the schedule turned around and started playing the top teams - it all can down to how the bottom of the order hit - when we got some 6-9 production- we normally won - since we could usually count on the top of the order getting on base or producing some runs - numbers on LOB at the end of games by the bottom of the order - in tight games was the difference. You can have maybe one guy hitting 200 in your lineup - but we had two and in many of the games at the end of the season (except pac12 tournament), catchers did not produce runs - plus when your DH is 250 or less - not good….
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 27, 2022 12:55:09 GMT -8
Oregon State finished with its fourth-best regular season in Beaver history. Won the Regional.
Even with losing to Auburn, Oregon State finished #2 in RPI, #1 in nonconference RPI.
Massey finished with Oregon State ranked higher than Oklahoma, Texas, and Stanford. The Beavers were the best team west of Fayetteville. Oregon State finished as the eighth best defense behind five SEC teams (Tennessee, Ole Miss, Vandy, Arkansas, and Florida), Notre Dame, and Southern Miss.
RPI ranked Oregon State schedule as the 18th most-difficult. Massey ranked it as 19th.
Massey ranks the best team that did not win a Regional as Vanderbilt, and that it certainly looked true to me.
Six of the eight top eight seeds made it through to host a Super, and Oregon State was one of those six. According to Massey, only Tennessee played a more-difficult Super Regional opponent in #8 Notre Dame. Virginia Tech played #12 Oklahoma, East Carolina played #13 Texas, Texas A&M played #18 Louisville, and Stanford played #45 Connecticut.
John Brammer, an umpire, who primarily does SEC games, was the home plate umpire in game one. The zone was tight but, to my eyes, was tighter, when the gray team was in the batter's box than when the white team was in the batter's box.
Add to that that the best pitcher perhaps in Oregon State history was sick in game one, which forced Pfennigs to pitch, even though he may not have 100% been ready to throw. Allowing Auburn to go ahead, gave the Tigers the opportunity to set up their pitchers to throw in game one and return in game three.
And in the end, Oregon State was only one bad jump, one bobble, one hit, one throw, or the location of one pitch away from a tie game in game three.
2006 Oregon State lost to Pac-10 #2 Arizona State and #7 USC. 2007 Oregon State lost to Pac-10 #1 Arizona State, #2 Arizona, #5 Washington, and #6 Washington State. 2018 Oregon State lost to Pac-12 #6 Arizona and #11 Utah.
All those teams won National Championships. 2022 Oregon State certainly could have done the same with a little extra luck here or there.
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Post by irimi on Jun 27, 2022 13:52:35 GMT -8
Wow. I'm speechless........lucky I'm typing. LOL
I don't think we ever went "downhill." Maybe we went a bit sideways, but every series that we lost was hard fought. With a play here or a hit there being the difference. Execution.
I thought the Stanford series was outstanding baseball and I wanted another shot at them. When we met up in the Pac 12 Tourney, they had all the advantage and it showed. Oh well. Let's see what Stanford brings next year.
The one thing that I will say is that against top tier teams, we didn't put enough pressure on them consistently. But that's just my gut feeling, not backed by any sort of research.
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Post by ochobeavo on Jun 27, 2022 14:10:22 GMT -8
Wow. I'm speechless........lucky I'm typing. LOL I don't think we ever went "downhill." Maybe we went a bit sideways, but every series that we lost was hard fought. With a play here or a hit there being the difference. Execution. I thought the Stanford series was outstanding baseball and I wanted another shot at them. When we met up in the Pac 12 Tourney, they had all the advantage and it showed. Oh well. Let's see what Stanford brings next year. The one thing that I will say is that against top tier teams, we didn't put enough pressure on them consistently. But that's just my gut feeling, not backed by any sort of research. BUT I NEED SOMEONE TO BLAAAAAAAMMMMMME!!!!!
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 27, 2022 14:20:21 GMT -8
Wow. I'm speechless........lucky I'm typing. LOL I don't think we ever went "downhill." Maybe we went a bit sideways, but every series that we lost was hard fought. With a play here or a hit there being the difference. Execution. I thought the Stanford series was outstanding baseball and I wanted another shot at them. When we met up in the Pac 12 Tourney, they had all the advantage and it showed. Oh well. Let's see what Stanford brings next year. The one thing that I will say is that against top tier teams, we didn't put enough pressure on them consistently. But that's just my gut feeling, not backed by any sort of research. BUT I NEED SOMEONE TO BLAAAAAAAMMMMMME!!!!! Downhill to a #3 National Seed........short hill?
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 27, 2022 16:37:35 GMT -8
BUT I NEED SOMEONE TO BLAAAAAAAMMMMMME!!!!! Downhill to a #3 National Seed........short hill? Yeah but we walked it uphill both ways in the rain!
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jun 27, 2022 18:39:01 GMT -8
Yeah the Stanford series was first weekend of April. Ducks were all late April early May. After Furd series we lost 1 game to gonzaga, 1 game to Utah. Until Between the end of Stanford and the start of Arizona we were 19-2. Things fell apart against the top of the conference. Yes… we started playing the top teams in conference…..
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Post by gnawitall on Jun 27, 2022 20:21:21 GMT -8
And were a 4-3 super regional finals loss from going to Omaha.
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