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Post by grackle on Jun 28, 2022 7:03:31 GMT -8
Yeah the Stanford series was first weekend of April. Ducks were all late April early May. After Furd series we lost 1 game to gonzaga, 1 game to Utah. Until Between the end of Stanford and the start of Arizona we were 19-2. Things fell apart against the top of the conference. Yes… we started playing the top teams in conference….. But that still doesn't account for our defense falling apart. Many of the games we lost to the better teams were the result of unforced defensive errors. How do you account for that??
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 28, 2022 7:35:25 GMT -8
Yes… we started playing the top teams in conference….. But that still doesn't account for our defense falling apart. Many of the games we lost to the better teams were the result of unforced defensive errors. How do you account for that?? Idk but it wasn’t cause we lost to Stanford. My guess is better teams put more balls in play at higher velocities which creates more pressure. More pressure creates errors and loss of confidence which creates more errors. Baseball is a very emotional and focus based game. The difference between Randy Johnson and a tall weird asshole is a 10 gallon hat full of confident arrogance.
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Post by ochobeavo on Jun 28, 2022 7:59:26 GMT -8
Yes… we started playing the top teams in conference….. But that still doesn't account for our defense falling apart. Many of the games we lost to the better teams were the result of unforced defensive errors. How do you account for that?? We were #7 in the Nation in fielding percentage. 7th out of 293 teams. www.ncaa.com/stats/baseball/d1/current/team/212
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 28, 2022 8:03:18 GMT -8
But that still doesn't account for our defense falling apart. Many of the games we lost to the better teams were the result of unforced defensive errors. How do you account for that?? We were #7 in the Nation in fielding percentage. 7th out of 293 teams. www.ncaa.com/stats/baseball/d1/current/team/212 We we’re #1 most of the season. We didn’t have the batting talent to overcome errors, it cost us late.
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Post by ochobeavo on Jun 28, 2022 8:14:02 GMT -8
We we’re #1 most of the season. We didn’t have the batting talent to overcome errors, it cost us late. Don't disagree, but if we want to specifically get into the Auburn series, I felt like the bigger issue was game 1 where we did nothing after the first vs their slew of lefties and we had them reeling in the bottom of 1. We did have 2 errors in the series and both cost us runs if I recall correctly .
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 28, 2022 8:19:27 GMT -8
We we’re #1 most of the season. We didn’t have the batting talent to overcome errors, it cost us late. Don't disagree, but if we want to specifically get into the Auburn series, I felt like the bigger issue was game 1 where we did nothing after the first vs their slew of lefties and we had them reeling in the bottom of 1. We did have 2 errors in the series and both cost us runs if I recall correctly . Yeah, bat talent wasnt their to carry us. If you don’t have a strong lineup you have to play with less mistakes. Freebies, errors, pitching to a hr machine that runs a 14 second 60. If you can hit you can overcome it.
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Post by vhalum92 on Jun 28, 2022 9:58:07 GMT -8
Just to pile on....
I sit at basically 3rd base, 4 rows up. All season long our section felt like Gipson was not sending runners when he should.... go back and look at how many times those runners didn't score if you would like but that was the trend to hold not to run.
But I don't think a coach sending a kid or holding a baserunner will ever translate into another kid making an error in the field later in the game.
Let's be clear... we had a freshman at 2b, who is a stud but he was still a Freshman. Our SS was not the prototypical Beaver SS with his bat and by the end of the season with his Defense. Throw in the injury and illness but go our three best players, Melton - hammy?, Hjerpe Illness, and Boyd was hit in the hand during the Pac 12 tourney... and you stumble down the stretch. Not having the normal studs up the middle and the top dudes dinged up and out of pitching rotation.
Leaves me realizing how much drama we have had with Starting Pitching in the post season. I don't follow other teams so maybe they have just as much but from Luke, to Wetzler, to Hjerpe. Sigh.
It will be interesting to see who returns next year and how this experience may help them stay strong down the stretch with defensive play.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 28, 2022 13:47:02 GMT -8
We we’re #1 most of the season. We didn’t have the batting talent to overcome errors, it cost us late. Don't disagree, but if we want to specifically get into the Auburn series, I felt like the bigger issue was game 1 where we did nothing after the first vs their slew of lefties and we had them reeling in the bottom of 1. We did have 2 errors in the series and both cost us runs if I recall correctly .Both errors cost Oregon State a run. Bazzana's error was a backbreaker in game three. The bullpens were so good that, whoever led in the seventh was probably going to win, and that error allowed Auburn to safety squeeze home the winner on a bad throw by Forrester. On the other hand, it should be pointed out that Auburn had two errors, and the run that put Oregon State up for good in game two (the third run to put the Beavers up 3-2) was scored on an error. The second error also put Bazzana on third with two outs, and Bazzana scored on Dukart's base hit. I am not sure that Bazzana would have scored but for the error. The SEC umpire, who was behind the dish in game one still had an inconsistent zone, and it seemed to be larger, when the Beavers were in the batter's box.
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jun 29, 2022 18:47:42 GMT -8
Just me… but in short …. Seems our season started to fall when we started playing better teams later in season…that is the bottom line.
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Post by irimi on Jun 30, 2022 7:44:07 GMT -8
Yes… we started playing the top teams in conference….. But that still doesn't account for our defense falling apart. Many of the games we lost to the better teams were the result of unforced defensive errors. How do you account for that?? If I recall correctly, we picked up more errors later in the season, particularly in the pac 12 tourney that was played on an unforgiving surface. Honestly, I think I would have to attribute the rise in errors to mental fatigue more than anything, and I wonder if playing the Pac 12 tournament attributed to that fatigue at all. I think the grueling finish of the regular season, and then into the tourney, and then into Regionals, and then into Supers, just took a toll. The players are excellent. Top quality. The schedule was miserable.
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