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Post by irimi on Jun 23, 2022 20:16:33 GMT -8
I have a better idea! Let's bitch about the 2 pitches that keep us out of the CWS. Sonny D's Big Flies. Sonny D managed only 3 hits in the CWS. Seems they figured out not to throw fast balls to the young man. Oh well....... They didn't keep us out of Omaha. We kept ourselves out. Not scoring when the opportunities presented themselves. It's exactly what doomed us against every team that beat us. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 23, 2022 22:31:11 GMT -8
I have a better idea! Let's bitch about the 2 pitches that keep us out of the CWS. Sonny D's Big Flies. Sonny D managed only 3 hits in the CWS. Seems they figured out not to throw fast balls to the young man. Oh well....... They didn't keep us out of Omaha. We kept ourselves out. Not scoring when the opportunities presented themselves. It's exactly what doomed us against every team that beat us. Hitting didn't fail us in game one. Pitching did. Five runs should be a win more often than not, and it was this year. 5-3 before game one of the Corvallis Super Regional. I would say, if hitting failed us in game one, there was a big assist by some poor lineup generation and absolutely no moves to try and break up four consecutive southpaws and two guys that could neither hit nor lay off the high heat. (Both Gretler and Derne earned a silver sombrero.) Derne struck out three times against Sheehan/Skipper, and Gretler struck out twice. Gretler drew a two-out walk against Sheehan, but Derne struck out on four pitches. And not being able to pitch Hjerpe in game one and throwing Pfennigs into the game killed us. If Hjerpe throws and wins, Auburn can't come back and throw Skipper two innings in game three. Plus, we would have had Hjerpe to relieve in game three, if necessary. Bad luck + bad coaching + bad pitching + bad fielding + the bats going quiet at the wrong time + two consistently inconsistent zones = 2 L's |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 23, 2022 23:15:38 GMT -8
Yeah, everyone who loses six of their nine final weekend series and goes 0-fer at their Conference Tournament should get a shot. Yep! Participation trophies and ribbons for everyone! Trash inclusion. Trash team. Trash continued argument. Hopefully, they beat Oklahoma. This Tournament has been trash. The fact that Ole Miss' coach took until April to realize that not only should Dylan DeLucia should be a starter at all, DeLucia should be his ace..... Trash! Even if Ole Miss wins out, the Rebels will still finish six games behind the 2007 Beavers. Trash! They played 4 series against teams in the top 10 this year. We played zero in 2007. Their conference was a helluva lot tougher than ours was in 2007. Both teams probably shouldn’t have gotten in. We only got in because of 2006. So, if you think Ole Miss is trash, our 2007 team must have been trash. No team that is trash makes it to the final series. Your post is trash. First, Ole Miss played 4 series against teams in the top 10 at that time. By the regular season's end, Arkansas was not top 16, and LSU was not top 25. Ole Miss was a combined 2-7 against Tennessee, Texas A&M, and Arkansas, going 1-5 at home. And even if Ole Miss had won all seven of those games, they still wouldn't have had matched Oregon State's 2007 record, because Ole Miss was still more than five games back of 2007 Oregon State. Second, Oregon State played #6 Arizona State in 2007, a team that finished as the #5 overall National Seed, and a team that finished top six at Omaha and only because Oregon State beat them there. The Beavers played the Devils four times by the end of the regular season, a game in Surprise and three games in Corvallis. The Devils would later vacate 44 of their 49 wins in 2007, including their 2007 Pac-10 Championship and College World Series run, because of several recruiting violations. The fact that Oregon State ultimately beat them straight up in Arizona and at Omaha is ridiculous. And the two wins were not close. The Beavers handed the Devils the Devils' second- and fourth-biggest defeats for the entire season. Oregon State's six-run win at Omaha was Arizona State's biggest loss at Omaha between 1998 and 2010 (five trips in that time). 2007 Arizona State was better than any team that Ole Miss played this year with the probable exception of Tennessee. 13 of the players on 2007 Arizona State were drafted in the first 20 rounds. Eric Sogard was still playing for the Cubs until late July of last year. I continue to disagree. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 24, 2022 11:38:23 GMT -8
They didn't keep us out of Omaha. We kept ourselves out. Not scoring when the opportunities presented themselves. It's exactly what doomed us against every team that beat us. Hitting didn't fail us in game one. Pitching did. Five runs should be a win more often than not, and it was this year. 5-3 before game one of the Corvallis Super Regional. I would say, if hitting failed us in game one, there was a big assist by some poor lineup generation and absolutely no moves to try and break up four consecutive southpaws and two guys that could neither hit nor lay off the high heat. (Both Gretler and Derne earned a silver sombrero.) Derne struck out three times against Sheehan/Skipper, and Gretler struck out twice. Gretler drew a two-out walk against Sheehan, but Derne struck out on four pitches. And not being able to pitch Hjerpe in game one and throwing Pfennigs into the game killed us. If Hjerpe throws and wins, Auburn can't come back and throw Skipper two innings in game three. Plus, we would have had Hjerpe to relieve in game three, if necessary. Bad luck + bad coaching + bad pitching + bad fielding + the bats going quiet at the wrong time + two consistently inconsistent zones = 2 L's If you look closely at the data from the game, then you'll see it was hitting that failed us. We were 0-2 with bases loaded. Damn. That's gonna hurt every time. You'll also see that we went 2-21 against their left-handers in that game. That's a .095 batting average. Ouch. Meanwhile pitching was pretty consistent with what Auburn was pitching. Our strike percentage was 58 and theirs was 59. In the end, I think our pitching was adequate, not great. But our bats were clearly below average in that game. If they kept feeding us lefties, we wouldn't have scored at all. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 24, 2022 13:31:39 GMT -8
Hitting didn't fail us in game one. Pitching did. Five runs should be a win more often than not, and it was this year. 5-3 before game one of the Corvallis Super Regional. I would say, if hitting failed us in game one, there was a big assist by some poor lineup generation and absolutely no moves to try and break up four consecutive southpaws and two guys that could neither hit nor lay off the high heat. (Both Gretler and Derne earned a silver sombrero.) Derne struck out three times against Sheehan/Skipper, and Gretler struck out twice. Gretler drew a two-out walk against Sheehan, but Derne struck out on four pitches. And not being able to pitch Hjerpe in game one and throwing Pfennigs into the game killed us. If Hjerpe throws and wins, Auburn can't come back and throw Skipper two innings in game three. Plus, we would have had Hjerpe to relieve in game three, if necessary. Bad luck + bad coaching + bad pitching + bad fielding + the bats going quiet at the wrong time + two consistently inconsistent zones = 2 L's If you look closely at the data from the game, then you'll see it was hitting that failed us. We were 0-2 with bases loaded. Damn. That's gonna hurt every time. You'll also see that we went 2-21 against their left-handers in that game. That's a .095 batting average. Ouch. Meanwhile pitching was pretty consistent with what Auburn was pitching. Our strike percentage was 58 and theirs was 59. In the end, I think our pitching was adequate, not great. But our bats were clearly below average in that game. If they kept feeding us lefties, we wouldn't have scored at all. I have run through analytics. You are not hitting on it, but I will help you. The key to that series was strikeouts. 12 strikeouts in game one! Oregon State only struck out more in three nine-inning games: the 8-5 rubber game loss to Stanford (14 strikeouts), the Pac-12 Championship Game loss to Stanford (13), and game three against Auburn (14). Oregon State also had 13 strikeouts in the 11-inning win over Stanford in game two against Stanford but only 11 in nine innings. Oregon State only had 12 strikeouts in four games on the season: the 3-1 loss in game 3 to Arizona State, against Long Beach State's ace, in game two against Washington, and in game one against Auburn. On the other side of the ledger, Oregon State's pitchers only combined for five strikeouts in the game three loss and eight strikeouts in the 7-5 loss. The five other times that the Beavers had fewer than five strikeouts in nine innings: the 13-7 loss to Grand Canyon (0 strikeouts - A.J. Lattery start), the game three over California (4 - Ben Ferrer), the game three win over USC (4 - Lattery), and both midweek games against Gonzaga (4 - Hunter & Townsend). Auburn game three tied with the game two regular season loss to UCLA (Kmatz) for fewest strikeouts in nine innings. There were only nine other games with fewer strikeouts in nine innings than game 1 against Auburn. You have a 12-8 Auburn strikeout win in game one, a 9-9 tie in game two, and a ridiculous 14-5 strikeout win in game three. BABIP: Game 1: Auburn .320
Oregon State .286 Game 2: Oregon State .333 Auburn .217 Game 3: Auburn .080 Oregon State .350 The only game that Oregon State lost the BABIP battle was game one. I mean, you could ascribe the game one loss to bad luck in multiple ways. BABIP was at or above what you would expect for Oregon State. When they connected, the balls were falling in at or above a better clip than you would normally expect. Auburn only finished with a high BABIP in game one, and it was by only one hit. If that is a hit in the second or third, that could have swung the game. Just because I am pretty sure that I know the game one culprit: Backward K's: Game 1: Auburn 2Oregon State 5 Game 2: Auburn 3 (Hjerpe with two and Ferrer with one)Oregon State 1 Game 3: Auburn 2Oregon State 2 Yep. The zone seemed to favor Auburn in game one in a way that it did not for the remainder of the series. And Auburn had an extra hit fall in than they should. And that's the ballgame! The hitters performed about as well as you could expect in game one. Inconsistent zone. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 24, 2022 13:38:13 GMT -8
If you look closely at the data from the game, then you'll see it was hitting that failed us. We were 0-2 with bases loaded. Damn. That's gonna hurt every time. You'll also see that we went 2-21 against their left-handers in that game. That's a .095 batting average. Ouch. Meanwhile pitching was pretty consistent with what Auburn was pitching. Our strike percentage was 58 and theirs was 59. In the end, I think our pitching was adequate, not great. But our bats were clearly below average in that game. If they kept feeding us lefties, we wouldn't have scored at all. I have run through analytics. You are not hitting on it, but I will help you. The key to that series was strikeouts. 12 strikeouts in game one! Oregon State only struck out more in three nine-inning games: the 8-5 rubber game loss to Stanford (14 strikeouts), the Pac-12 Championship Game loss to Stanford (13), and game three against Auburn (14). Oregon State also had 13 strikeouts in the 11-inning win over Stanford in game two against Stanford but only 11 in nine innings. Oregon State only had 12 strikeouts in four games on the season: the 3-1 loss in game 3 to Arizona State, against Long Beach State's ace, in game two against Washington, and in game one against Auburn. On the other side of the ledger, Oregon State's pitchers only combined for five strikeouts in the game three loss and eight strikeouts in the 7-5 loss. The five other times that the Beavers had fewer than five strikeouts in nine innings: the 13-7 loss to Grand Canyon (0 strikeouts - A.J. Lattery start), the game three over California (4 - Ben Ferrer), the game three win over USC (4 - Lattery), and both midweek games against Gonzaga (4 - Hunter & Townsend). Auburn game three tied with the game two regular season loss to UCLA (Kmatz) for fewest strikeouts in nine innings. There were only nine other games with fewer strikeouts in nine innings than game 1 against Auburn. You have a 12-8 Auburn strikeout win in game one, a 9-9 tie in game two, and a ridiculous 14-5 strikeout win in game three. BABIP: Game 1: Auburn .320
Oregon State .286 Game 2: Oregon State .333 Auburn .217 Game 3: Auburn .080 Oregon State .350 The only game that Oregon State lost the BABIP battle was game one. I mean, you could ascribe the game one loss to bad luck in multiple ways. BABIP was at or above what you would expect for Oregon State. When they connected, the balls were falling in at or above a better clip than you would normally expect. Auburn only finished with a high BABIP in game one, and it was by only one hit. If that is a hit in the second or third, that could have swung the game. Just because I am pretty sure that I know the game one culprit: Backward K's: Game 1: Auburn 2Oregon State 5 Game 2: Auburn 3 (Hjerpe with two and Ferrer with one)Oregon State 1 Game 3: Auburn 2Oregon State 2 Yep. The zone seemed to favor Auburn in game one in a way that it did not for the remainder of the series. And Auburn had an extra hit fall in than they should. And that's the ballgame! The hitters performed about as well as you could expect in game one. Inconsistent zone. I agree with your assessment that there were multiple factor involved with that loss. But I don’t absolve the hitters like you do. |
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Post by TheGlove on Jun 24, 2022 14:01:47 GMT -8
No one, and I mean literally no one, clicks on your youtube links. If you'd like to add impact, use a .gif. There's a GIF button on your toolbar.  |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 24, 2022 14:21:35 GMT -8
No one, and I mean literally no one, clicks on your youtube links. If you'd like to add impact, use a .gif. There's a GIF button on your toolbar. It really feels like I should create a poll about this............ |
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Jun 24, 2022 14:59:02 GMT -8
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 24, 2022 14:59:02 GMT -8
If you look closely at the data from the game, then you'll see it was hitting that failed us. We were 0-2 with bases loaded. Damn. That's gonna hurt every time. You'll also see that we went 2-21 against their left-handers in that game. That's a .095 batting average. Ouch. Meanwhile pitching was pretty consistent with what Auburn was pitching. Our strike percentage was 58 and theirs was 59. In the end, I think our pitching was adequate, not great. But our bats were clearly below average in that game. If they kept feeding us lefties, we wouldn't have scored at all. I have run through analytics. You are not hitting on it, but I will help you. The key to that series was strikeouts. 12 strikeouts in game one! Oregon State only struck out more in three nine-inning games: the 8-5 rubber game loss to Stanford (14 strikeouts), the Pac-12 Championship Game loss to Stanford (13), and game three against Auburn (14). Oregon State also had 13 strikeouts in the 11-inning win over Stanford in game two against Stanford but only 11 in nine innings. Oregon State only had 12 strikeouts in four games on the season: the 3-1 loss in game 3 to Arizona State, against Long Beach State's ace, in game two against Washington, and in game one against Auburn. On the other side of the ledger, Oregon State's pitchers only combined for five strikeouts in the game three loss and eight strikeouts in the 7-5 loss. The five other times that the Beavers had fewer than five strikeouts in nine innings: the 13-7 loss to Grand Canyon (0 strikeouts - A.J. Lattery start), the game three over California (4 - Ben Ferrer), the game three win over USC (4 - Lattery), and both midweek games against Gonzaga (4 - Hunter & Townsend). Auburn game three tied with the game two regular season loss to UCLA (Kmatz) for fewest strikeouts in nine innings. There were only nine other games with fewer strikeouts in nine innings than game 1 against Auburn. You have a 12-8 Auburn strikeout win in game one, a 9-9 tie in game two, and a ridiculous 14-5 strikeout win in game three. BABIP: Game 1: Auburn .320
Oregon State .286 Game 2: Oregon State .333 Auburn .217 Game 3: Auburn .080 Oregon State .350 The only game that Oregon State lost the BABIP battle was game one. I mean, you could ascribe the game one loss to bad luck in multiple ways. BABIP was at or above what you would expect for Oregon State. When they connected, the balls were falling in at or above a better clip than you would normally expect. Auburn only finished with a high BABIP in game one, and it was by only one hit. If that is a hit in the second or third, that could have swung the game. Just because I am pretty sure that I know the game one culprit: Backward K's: Game 1: Auburn 2Oregon State 5 Game 2: Auburn 3 (Hjerpe with two and Ferrer with one)Oregon State 1 Game 3: Auburn 2Oregon State 2 Yep. The zone seemed to favor Auburn in game one in a way that it did not for the remainder of the series. And Auburn had an extra hit fall in than they should. And that's the ballgame! The hitters performed about as well as you could expect in game one. Inconsistent zone. The zone was inconsistent both ways in game 1. There were bad calls against Auburn as well. Stop making excuses. We lost to a good team. You can post all the stats you want, we lost. It happens. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 24, 2022 15:02:38 GMT -8
They played 4 series against teams in the top 10 this year. We played zero in 2007. Their conference was a helluva lot tougher than ours was in 2007. Both teams probably shouldn’t have gotten in. We only got in because of 2006. So, if you think Ole Miss is trash, our 2007 team must have been trash. No team that is trash makes it to the final series. Your post is trash. First, Ole Miss played 4 series against teams in the top 10 at that time. By the regular season's end, Arkansas was not top 16, and LSU was not top 25. Ole Miss was a combined 2-7 against Tennessee, Texas A&M, and Arkansas, going 1-5 at home. And even if Ole Miss had won all seven of those games, they still wouldn't have had matched Oregon State's 2007 record, because Ole Miss was still more than five games back of 2007 Oregon State. Second, Oregon State played #6 Arizona State in 2007, a team that finished as the #5 overall National Seed, and a team that finished top six at Omaha and only because Oregon State beat them there. The Beavers played the Devils four times by the end of the regular season, a game in Surprise and three games in Corvallis. The Devils would later vacate 44 of their 49 wins in 2007, including their 2007 Pac-10 Championship and College World Series run, because of several recruiting violations. The fact that Oregon State ultimately beat them straight up in Arizona and at Omaha is ridiculous. And the two wins were not close. The Beavers handed the Devils the Devils' second- and fourth-biggest defeats for the entire season. Oregon State's six-run win at Omaha was Arizona State's biggest loss at Omaha between 1998 and 2010 (five trips in that time). 2007 Arizona State was better than any team that Ole Miss played this year with the probable exception of Tennessee. 13 of the players on 2007 Arizona State were drafted in the first 20 rounds. Eric Sogard was still playing for the Cubs until late July of last year. I continue to disagree. Yea, we played one really good team in 2007. Ole Miss played 4-5. They played teams that “were ranked in the top 10” at the the time, because those teams later lost to really good teams. Their conference was 5 times better in 2022, than the PAC in 2007. |
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jun 24, 2022 18:37:02 GMT -8
Just glad pigs are done.
CWS finals I don’t really care… just hope for competitive games.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 24, 2022 21:26:27 GMT -8
First, Ole Miss played 4 series against teams in the top 10 at that time. By the regular season's end, Arkansas was not top 16, and LSU was not top 25. Ole Miss was a combined 2-7 against Tennessee, Texas A&M, and Arkansas, going 1-5 at home. And even if Ole Miss had won all seven of those games, they still wouldn't have had matched Oregon State's 2007 record, because Ole Miss was still more than five games back of 2007 Oregon State. Second, Oregon State played #6 Arizona State in 2007, a team that finished as the #5 overall National Seed, and a team that finished top six at Omaha and only because Oregon State beat them there. The Beavers played the Devils four times by the end of the regular season, a game in Surprise and three games in Corvallis. The Devils would later vacate 44 of their 49 wins in 2007, including their 2007 Pac-10 Championship and College World Series run, because of several recruiting violations. The fact that Oregon State ultimately beat them straight up in Arizona and at Omaha is ridiculous. And the two wins were not close. The Beavers handed the Devils the Devils' second- and fourth-biggest defeats for the entire season. Oregon State's six-run win at Omaha was Arizona State's biggest loss at Omaha between 1998 and 2010 (five trips in that time). 2007 Arizona State was better than any team that Ole Miss played this year with the probable exception of Tennessee. 13 of the players on 2007 Arizona State were drafted in the first 20 rounds. Eric Sogard was still playing for the Cubs until late July of last year. I continue to disagree. Yea, we played one really good team in 2007. Ole Miss played 4-5. They played teams that “were ranked in the top 10” at the the time, because those teams later lost to really good teams. Their conference was 5 times better in 2022, than the PAC in 2007. Alright. Massey Ratings go back to 2007. According to Massey Ratings, the best four teams that Ole Miss played were: Tennessee
Arkansas
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt
Auburn
Auburn's Massey Rating is 8.80 and Vanderbilt's Massey Rating is 8.88
Oregon State's best five opponents:
Arizona State
UC Irvine
Arizona
North Carolina
Cal State Fullerton
All five teams rate better than Auburn. 2007 Arizona State and Irvine rate better than 2022 Texas A&M.
Oregon State's rating in 2007 was 9.07, and Ole Miss' 2022 rating is 8.92.
Oregon State's SOS was ninth overall in 2007.
Five times better?
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 24, 2022 21:33:49 GMT -8
Wilky just let 2007 be the greatest trash team. Don’t take that away from us!
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 25, 2022 15:41:41 GMT -8
Go trash! Up 3-0 early.
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Post by speakthetruth on Jun 25, 2022 16:01:13 GMT -8
Go okies. Anybody but sec.
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