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Post by chinmusic on Jun 14, 2022 8:02:06 GMT -8
A good part of losing the two games - we didn't have any answers for Blake Burkhalter - 96/97 mph gas, a hard slider and a filthy change.
Auburn's closer was legit.
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Post by chinmusic on Jun 14, 2022 8:41:47 GMT -8
The series was full of good coaching moves. Auburn's use of their pitchers was clinical. Good strategy and timing throughout the series. The safety squeeze, off field hitting against our "Shifts" - they can coach. We made some good moves offensively and Dorman's decision to punch with Hjerpe and Ferrer on Sunday, then start Hunter on Monday was good stuff. Auburn had been on a tear offensively for 3 weeks - we pitched and they struggled on Sunday and Monday.
This series was won and lost on the field by the players. I thought the coaching on both sides was solid.
FWIW: Coaches don't play. The players have have the resonsibility to pitch, hit and defend. Our team won 48 games - that's a bunch. We improved by 11 wins over last year. Our coaches have won 85 games in two years while transitioning through the retirement of our beloved Coach Casey, to a new coaching era - are they doing anything right?
We were 2nd in the PAC-12, a finalist in the PAC-12 Tournament, won a Regional, lost a 3 game Super Regional and were ranked 3rd in the nation. I mean, WTF, you really want to diss that?
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Post by beaverstever on Jun 14, 2022 8:44:43 GMT -8
We have historically feasted on teams even in Omaha with superior defense. Auburn had no such deficiencies. They also had the right pitchers in their bullpen for a lefty-heavy batting lineup. Tough matchup draw for us, but that's the breaks.
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Post by sportsfan85 on Jun 14, 2022 10:07:42 GMT -8
....and the next pitcher gives up two runs the next time Auburn bats. Sorry....I'm still not sold that Canham/Dorman are ready for prime time. . So it’s the coaches fault we bobble a ground ball and runner is safe after a review?And Dorman is at fault for not getting a hit with RISP? How many two out hits did we get in the game? Yea it’s the coaches fault. |
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Post by beaverphd on Jun 14, 2022 10:45:12 GMT -8
The series was full of good coaching moves. Auburn's use of their pitchers was clinical. Good strategy and timing throughout the series. The safety squeeze, off field hitting against our "Shifts" - they can coach. We made some good moves offensively and Dorman's decision to punch with Hjerpe and Ferrer on Sunday, then start Hunter on Monday was good stuff. Auburn had been on a tear offensively for 3 weeks - we pitched and they struggled on Sunday and Monday. This series was won and lost on the field by the players. I thought the coaching on both sides was solid. FWIW: Coaches don't play. The players have have the resonsibility to pitch, hit and defend. Our team won 48 games - that's a bunch. We improved by 11 wins over last year. Our coaches have won 85 games in two years while transitioning through the retirement of our beloved Coach Casey, to a new coaching era - are they doing anything right? We were 2nd in the PAC-12, a finalist in the PAC-12 Tournament, won a Regional, lost a 3 game Super Regional and were ranked 3rd in the nation. I mean, WTF, you really want to diss that? To add to this- I thought our pitching was great. Auburn averaged 17 runs per game in the regional. Against us they scored 7,3, and 4 runs for a total of 14 in the entire super regional. We limited a great offense, we just couldn't hit ourselves. Their lefties out of the pen shut our left handed hitters down. Auburn gave up 18 runs in their regional and we only scored 12 runs in the same number of games. That was the difference |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 14, 2022 10:51:07 GMT -8
We roughed up Burkholder pretty good on Saturday night. Single by Boyd, lineout by Meckler, 2B off the wall by Melton. That would have tied the game last night, but he was better.
As I said, I have no problem at all losing to Auburn. Classy fans, classy coach, classy team. It was a great series, we just didn't get it done.
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Post by nabeav on Jun 14, 2022 10:51:27 GMT -8
Of the Regional hosts, 11 of 16 advanced to Super Regionals
Of the Super Regional hosts, only 2 advanced to the CWS (4 of the top 16 seeds made it to Omaha).
Sounds like plenty of coaching staffs around the country "aren't ready for prime-time."
Tournaments crown champions, but they don't always crown the best team. Regular seasons determine the best teams. We were one of the top 5 teams in the country all year. Our coaches are fine. Our team is fine. We ran into a very good Auburn team, and came up one run short. How many balls did we have caught just at the track? How many calls went to review and ended up going Auburn's way? Is the series different if Hjerpe isn't sick and can go in game one? If we're up 1-0 and just have to win one of the next two, does that affect who they pitch, or how they pitch, or are they playing under more pressure?
But, I know the original poster has been pushing the "this coaching staff isn't great" line all year, so I guess he can look at the game and find evidence to support his claim. I see it differently.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 14, 2022 14:55:22 GMT -8
Of the Regional hosts, 11 of 16 advanced to Super Regionals Of the Super Regional hosts, only 2 advanced to the CWS (4 of the top 16 seeds made it to Omaha). Sounds like plenty of coaching staffs around the country "aren't ready for prime-time." Tournaments crown champions, but they don't always crown the best team. Regular seasons determine the best teams. We were one of the top 5 teams in the country all year. Our coaches are fine. Our team is fine. We ran into a very good Auburn team, and came up one run short. How many balls did we have caught just at the track? How many calls went to review and ended up going Auburn's way? Is the series different if Hjerpe isn't sick and can go in game one? If we're up 1-0 and just have to win one of the next two, does that affect who they pitch, or how they pitch, or are they playing under more pressure? But, I know the original poster has been pushing the "this coaching staff isn't great" line all year, so I guess he can look at the game and find evidence to support his claim. I see it differently. What annoys me is that Oregon State got the three-seed but had the second-hardest Super Regional (behind East Carolina). Bad luck. The fact that we basically were a win away from getting the #2 overall seed and probably playing Connecticut, as opposed to Auburn, is also very galling. And then Hjerpe got sick and missed his Saturday start, setting up the three games that we saw. All bad. Bring on 2023! |
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Post by qbeaver on Jun 14, 2022 14:59:46 GMT -8
Pitching wasn't the problem. This was just baseball. A good team lost to another good team. The other team was talented. Give them their due...
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 14, 2022 15:14:15 GMT -8
Of the Regional hosts, 11 of 16 advanced to Super Regionals Of the Super Regional hosts, only 2 advanced to the CWS (4 of the top 16 seeds made it to Omaha). Sounds like plenty of coaching staffs around the country "aren't ready for prime-time." Tournaments crown champions, but they don't always crown the best team. Regular seasons determine the best teams. We were one of the top 5 teams in the country all year. Our coaches are fine. Our team is fine. We ran into a very good Auburn team, and came up one run short. How many balls did we have caught just at the track? How many calls went to review and ended up going Auburn's way? Is the series different if Hjerpe isn't sick and can go in game one? If we're up 1-0 and just have to win one of the next two, does that affect who they pitch, or how they pitch, or are they playing under more pressure? But, I know the original poster has been pushing the "this coaching staff isn't great" line all year, so I guess he can look at the game and find evidence to support his claim. I see it differently. What annoys me is that Oregon State got the three-seed but had the second-hardest Super Regional (behind East Carolina). Bad luck. The fact that we basically were a win away from getting the #2 overall seed and probably playing Connecticut, as opposed to Auburn, is also very galling. And then Hjerpe got sick and missed his Saturday start, setting up the three games that we saw. All bad. Bring on 2023! Or, we could of got the #2 seed and lost to Texas St in the regional, like Stanford almost did. No excuses. We just didn't quite get it done. I would argue that Tennessee, S. Miss and Va. Tech also had really bad draws in the supers. Ole Miss was the last team in the tournament and they are on fire right now. Oklahoma is also hugely underrated. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 14, 2022 15:21:02 GMT -8
....and the next pitcher gives up two runs the next time Auburn bats. Sorry....I'm still not sold that Canham/Dorman are ready for prime time. . So it’s the coaches fault we bobble a ground ball and runner is safe after a review?And Dorman is at fault for not getting a hit with RISP? How many two out hits did we get in the game? Yea it’s the coaches fault. We’ll did they specifically tell him to not do that right then? It’s like people have never watched baseball, they keep track of errors at all levels for a reason, they are inevitable over a long enough time period. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 14, 2022 16:02:37 GMT -8
....and the next pitcher gives up two runs the next time Auburn bats. Sorry....I'm still not sold that Canham/Dorman are ready for prime time. . My friend, you don't have to be sold on Canham or Dorman. But try to look at like this: The coaches took over and through Covid and everything, they have led the Beavers to the postseason twice in two possible seasons. (Season 1 was cancelled for Covid.) And we were better than last year, and better than a lot of years...even some Casey years. So what he has been able to accomplish, while you may choose to look down upon it, is really remarkable. Look at the development that the pitching staff made over the year! Very impressive. Remember that we were ranked #1 for a week or so and #3 pretty much most of the year. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 14, 2022 16:08:16 GMT -8
What annoys me is that Oregon State got the three-seed but had the second-hardest Super Regional (behind East Carolina). Bad luck. The fact that we basically were a win away from getting the #2 overall seed and probably playing Connecticut, as opposed to Auburn, is also very galling. And then Hjerpe got sick and missed his Saturday start, setting up the three games that we saw. All bad. Bring on 2023! Or, we could of got the #2 seed and lost to Texas St in the regional, like Stanford almost did. No excuses. We just didn't quite get it done. I would argue that Tennessee, S. Miss and Va. Tech also had really bad draws in the supers. Ole Miss was the last team in the tournament and they are on fire right now. Oklahoma is also hugely underrated. Auburn > Notre Dame > Oklahoma > Ole Miss The Rebels are trash. SEC #9 almost never deserves to be in the field. This year is no exception. Arizona started their Saturday starter to save their Friday starter for Miami. Their Saturday starter shut Ole Miss down. Arizona blew a 4-2 lead in the seventh to lose, because two of their relievers who were nails all year decided to pick the worst moment imaginable to s@#t the bed. And the defense gave up a third run for good measure. The Wildcats then did not have enough pitching to come out of the losers' bracket. And did you watch the Hattiesburg Super Regional? It was like 99% Ole Miss fans. It was ridiculous. You could argue that the opponent for Southern Miss was a bad draw, because of proximity. But Ole Miss is not a very good baseball team. They were very lucky that Arizona decided to save their ace for Canisius. Now watch them win the whole thing ala Oregon State in 2007. Oklahoma is not in the same league as Auburn and Notre Dame. Meh. Go Ole Miss! I am hoping that Notre Dame and Texas A&M pummel the Big 12 teams. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 14, 2022 16:36:22 GMT -8
Or, we could of got the #2 seed and lost to Texas St in the regional, like Stanford almost did. No excuses. We just didn't quite get it done. I would argue that Tennessee, S. Miss and Va. Tech also had really bad draws in the supers. Ole Miss was the last team in the tournament and they are on fire right now. Oklahoma is also hugely underrated. Auburn > Notre Dame > Oklahoma > Ole Miss The Rebels are trash. SEC #9 almost never deserves to be in the field. This year is no exception. Arizona started their Saturday starter to save their Friday starter for Miami. Their Saturday starter shut Ole Miss down. Arizona blew a 4-2 lead in the seventh to lose, because two of their relievers who were nails all year decided to pick the worst moment imaginable to s@#t the bed. And the defense gave up a third run for good measure. The Wildcats then did not have enough pitching to come out of the losers' bracket. And did you watch the Hattiesburg Super Regional? It was like 99% Ole Miss fans. It was ridiculous. You could argue that the opponent for Southern Miss was a bad draw, because of proximity. But Ole Miss is not a very good baseball team. They were very lucky that Arizona decided to save their ace for Canisius. Now watch them win the whole thing ala Oregon State in 2007. Oklahoma is not in the same league as Auburn and Notre Dame. Meh. Go Ole Miss! I am hoping that Notre Dame and Texas A&M pummel the Big 12 teams. Ole miss hasn’t lost in the postseason and most of the games haven’t been close. They are hot right now. And isn’t that S. Miss’s fault if they can’t fill their stadium and keep Ole Miss fans out. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 14, 2022 18:24:17 GMT -8
Auburn > Notre Dame > Oklahoma > Ole Miss The Rebels are trash. SEC #9 almost never deserves to be in the field. This year is no exception. Arizona started their Saturday starter to save their Friday starter for Miami. Their Saturday starter shut Ole Miss down. Arizona blew a 4-2 lead in the seventh to lose, because two of their relievers who were nails all year decided to pick the worst moment imaginable to s@#t the bed. And the defense gave up a third run for good measure. The Wildcats then did not have enough pitching to come out of the losers' bracket. And did you watch the Hattiesburg Super Regional? It was like 99% Ole Miss fans. It was ridiculous. You could argue that the opponent for Southern Miss was a bad draw, because of proximity. But Ole Miss is not a very good baseball team. They were very lucky that Arizona decided to save their ace for Canisius. Now watch them win the whole thing ala Oregon State in 2007. Oklahoma is not in the same league as Auburn and Notre Dame. Meh. Go Ole Miss! I am hoping that Notre Dame and Texas A&M pummel the Big 12 teams. Ole miss hasn’t lost in the postseason and most of the games haven’t been close. They are hot right now. And isn’t that S. Miss’s fault if they can’t fill their stadium and keep Ole Miss fans out. English is a weird language. One of the quirks compared to other languages is the overuse of and over-preoccupation with the term "fault," which is a difficult concept for other languages to express. Fault is irrelevant to the point. Ole Miss is damned lucky that they got into the Southern Miss Super Regional. I sincerely doubt that they would have found the same success in the Corvallis Super Regional or pretty much anywhere else outside of a 240-mile radius. The two de facto home games against Southern Miss were not close, and you would not really expect them to be. Ole Miss beat Miami by a run and Arizona by three in a game that was 4-2 Wildcats in the seventh and a game that Ole Miss did not take the lead until the eighth. With the compressed schedule, because of all of the rain, playing out of the losers' bracket was going to be next-to-impossible. |
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