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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 26, 2022 20:42:08 GMT -8
I think some of the blowback is that some of the broadcast look like they were produced by aljazeera. Everything about the network seems second rate compared to the SEC or Longhorn networks. I blamed it on a leadership problem when the con man (Larry) was on the job and hope the new man lifts the entire network Does anyone remember if it was this bad when it first launched? I feel like it’s regressed but maybe I’m miss remembering. It has gotten worse. I think that the Pac-12 was trying to put money into selling it originally. There is no money to reinvest now and no real point. The Pac-12 is now caught in their contracts. Leadership needs to fix it in the next couple of years, but there is not much point until right before the contract year. IMO Larry had a great idea but could not close. We needed to think big, in order to close the gap with the Big Ten and SEC, but we backed the wrong conceptual horse and are now further behind the Big Ten and SEC then when we started. Larry was not a con man. He just was not as great as the Presidents thought. And now we trust that the Presidents didn't choose somebody comparable if not worse in George Kliavkoff. I personally think that George has pointy-haired boss written all over him. He has risen to his level of incompetence. The Pac-12 firing Larry in favor of George is throwing in the towel. |
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Post by joecool on May 26, 2022 20:44:27 GMT -8
Just changed Pac 12 golf replays to watch the Big 10 tourney and they have a game in the 3rd inning. 11:40 PM CT Yep, SEC is still going right now too. |
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Post by irimi on May 26, 2022 20:46:11 GMT -8
I agree the production is weak compared to the SEC. However, those much maligned Southerners, love their football & baseball like no other section of the country. They spend money & show up to both sports mentioned. We will never ever compete on their level in football, but baseball....... we are in the "ball park" both currently & historically. We do compete on the field in baseball, but we don’t compete with them in baseball in fan attendance. We are the only one that comes close and we’re not very close to most of them. So let’s keep showing games on some subpar network that has limited accessibility. That’ll drive numbers up. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 26, 2022 20:58:01 GMT -8
We do compete on the field in baseball, but we don’t compete with them in baseball in fan attendance. We are the only one that comes close and we’re not very close to most of them. So let’s keep showing games on some subpar network that has limited accessibility. That’ll drive numbers up. In theory, adding content should drive numbers up. That is how ESPN works. And ESPN is set to broadcast the Championship Game, which is great exposure. Retaining rights to games also gives you the right to sell off the games in a pinch to one of the other networks, in case there is a rainout or something in one of the other networks. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on May 27, 2022 10:28:29 GMT -8
It's not all bad. You can now buy and drink BEER at games.
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Post by wetrodentia on May 27, 2022 13:03:27 GMT -8
And another reason they suck: They have an all sports/all teams promo they play constantly. I’m sure most of you have seen it. I’ve seen it enough to confidently say there is not a single Beaver logo in it and one recognizable Beaver sports scene if you’re really paying attention - the 2018 dog-pile. Contrast this with amount of times every other school is featured. I counted 8-10 IIRC for UCLA alone. I’m sure our crack marketing department at OSU hasn’t even noticed this. And it’s not the first time we’ve been woefully under-represented in these promos. Freaking horse excrement. No excuse for this to happen during production and for OSU to be OK with it. Lets get rid of the Network and go back to radio, seeing games in person & reading newspapers.(Sarcasm) "The good old nostalgia days" I seriously don't get the hostility to being able to watch Beaver Football, Basketball, & Baseball games. Reread the post. I'm hostile with not getting equal representation for OSU sports in promos on the channel - consistently. How did you make a leap to I'm hostile about being able to watch Pac-12 sports? I'm in the marketing and broadcast business. I would think if you're a serious network with professionals who are going to produce promos for an entity that represents 12 different institutions, there should be some basic parameters as far as equal representation of your clients in promos. Maybe those schools who win national and conference championships should get a bit more exposure with those particular sports. This promo looks like it was made by a fan boy who loves UCLA, Utah, UW, hole, well .. practically every school in the Pac 12 besides the Beavers. But I'm more annoyed at OSU for not watching that and making a freaking phone call asking WTF? It seems no one is paying attention at the network and the member schools are not involved either. If i had a marketing job at OSU I'd be milking that freaking channel to for the best exposure possible for my school. |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 27, 2022 13:04:37 GMT -8
Maybe we should hire someone to start measuring inches in the Oregonian again.....sigh.
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Post by beaver94 on May 27, 2022 14:25:33 GMT -8
Maybe we should hire someone to start measuring inches in the Oregonian again.....sigh. We've evolved with the times and are now timing seconds in a commercial. |
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Post by wetrodentia on May 27, 2022 16:11:20 GMT -8
Go ahead and smirk and be dismissive. Neither one of you are in the marketing business. Promotion and exposure matters. Just ask our rivals to the south.
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Post by Judge Smails on May 27, 2022 16:52:38 GMT -8
Go ahead and smirk and be dismissive. Neither one of you are in the marketing business. Promotion and exposure matters. Just ask our rivals to the south. Really? And you know what business that I’m in? |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 27, 2022 17:00:20 GMT -8
Lets get rid of the Network and go back to radio, seeing games in person & reading newspapers.(Sarcasm) "The good old nostalgia days" I seriously don't get the hostility to being able to watch Beaver Football, Basketball, & Baseball games. Reread the post. I'm hostile with not getting equal representation for OSU sports in promos on the channel - consistently. How did you make a leap to I'm hostile about being able to watch Pac-12 sports? I'm in the marketing and broadcast business. I would think if you're a serious network with professionals who are going to produce promos for an entity that represents 12 different institutions, there should be some basic parameters as far as equal representation of your clients in promos. Maybe those schools who win national and conference championships should get a bit more exposure with those particular sports. This promo looks like it was made by a fan boy who loves UCLA, Utah, UW, hole, well .. practically every school in the Pac 12 besides the Beavers. But I'm more annoyed at OSU for not watching that and making a freaking phone call asking WTF? It seems no one is paying attention at the network and the member schools are not involved either. If i had a marketing job at OSU I'd be milking that freaking channel to for the best exposure possible for my school. Make sure you’re not watching right now. There’s a half hour show about an OSU wrestler. Wouldn’t want to ruin your narrative. |
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Post by ricke71 on May 27, 2022 17:19:07 GMT -8
Waitin' for the UCLA - Cal BB game to observe tomorrow's Beaver opponent. My only comment re: PAC-12 Network - " f%#*in' Football ! "
update: I'm impressed with the bots on this board....because I really did write the F-word for this post, but it was cleansed It's probably for the best.
In other words, I DO NOT consider the powers-that-be modifying my language to a 'more acceptable' version, to be a Denial of my Freedoms. In fact, I presently possess ALL of the freedoms, as an American, that I'd ever desire.
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Post by beaver1989 on May 27, 2022 22:24:29 GMT -8
Waitin' for the UCLA - Cal BB game to observe tomorrow's Beaver opponent. My only comment re: PAC-12 Network - " f%#*in' Football ! " update: I'm impressed with the bots on this board....because I really did write the F-word for this post, but it was cleansed It's probably for the best. In other words, I DO NOT consider the powers-that-be modifying my language to a 'more acceptable' version, to be a Denial of my Freedoms. In fact, I presently possess ALL of the freedoms, as an American, that I'd ever desire. Foul language is automatically cleaned up, but most people know what a poster means. "f%#*ing asshole s%#thead duck fans are the worst." Even worse than the Pac 12 Network. |
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