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Post by Judge Smails on May 12, 2022 14:02:20 GMT -8
Is Robb Thomas not an option in this one? Robb Thomas did track. You can choose Mike Hass, if you would like. There were two to choose from! Ken Simonton was actually on the baseball team.....for a very short stint, but he didn't play. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 12, 2022 14:02:21 GMT -8
My all-time (since 1997 when I started paying attention) Beaver baseball team: C: Rutchman 1B: Gerber 2B: Bazzana SS: Barney 3B: Barden LF: Conforto CF: Ellsbury RF: Gillespie SP: Nickerson SP: Buck SP: Heimlich (unless we're considering him ineligible, then I'm going Moore) CP: Gundersen Madrigal and Larnach would be on mine.....SPs would be Heimlich, Hjerpe, Nickerson |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 12, 2022 14:11:23 GMT -8
AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP Sh SF GDP TB PA XBH 1B BA OBP SLG OPS SECA ISO BABIP SO/BB
Conforto 668 145 227 44 4 31 179 11 10 120 122 38 2 6 13 372 834 79 148 .340 .463 .557 1.020 .398 .217 .376 1.02
Ellsbury 646 168 236 37 8 16 101 60 16 92 71 30 7 4 5 337 779 61 175 .365 .464 .522 .985 .367 .156 .391 0.77
Conforto has better hitting stats. Ellsbury was faster and better defensively.
Probably Ellsbury.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 12, 2022 14:30:51 GMT -8
My all-time (since 1997 when I started paying attention) Beaver baseball team: C: Rutchman 1B: Gerber 2B: Bazzana SS: Barney 3B: Barden LF: Conforto CF: Ellsbury RF: Gillespie SP: Nickerson SP: Buck SP: Heimlich (unless we're considering him ineligible, then I'm going Moore) CP: Gundersen No love for KJ Harrison at 1B? Madrigal losing out to Bazzana? I love Bazzana, but that is some crazy talk right there. No love for Grenier? Barney was a great baseball player, but he did not really have the arm for shortstop. Barney won his Gold Glove at second. Grenier was phenomenal as a defensive shortstop. Beau Philip was also a very good defensive shortstop with a better arm than Barney. Trevor Larnach over Gillespie. There are a lot of good pitchers: Drew Rasmussen (when healthy), Andrew Moore and Jace Fry were the three best that I remember. Dallas Buck was a sabermetrics dream that never materialized in the Minors. Nickerson had the best rubber arm of the bunch. |
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Post by irimi on May 12, 2022 14:32:06 GMT -8
Ellsbury: Conforto, or Melton. I go with Jacoby; he started The Beavs on the road to national recognition. I don't think Melton is finished developing. I'm waiting for him to really amp it up. I think he has it in him--the only question is whether we will see it while he is wearing Beaver colors or not. I remember Conforto being clutch at the plate. Whenever you needed that his, he got it. He was a stud. I didn't see Ellsbury, much to my chagrin. But he has his name in Goss Stadium, so obviously is a deserving and generous part of the Beaver baseball program. Hard not to select a guy who makes it big and remembers his roots with class like that. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on May 12, 2022 14:46:13 GMT -8
This exercise is like comparing an orange and black truckload of gold to a black and orange truckload of gold.
We are spoiled rotten with the performances and players we've had the opportunity to watch, follow, and cheer for. Some of our best players saved their best for big moments and that doesn't show up in the stats.
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Post by Judge Smails on May 12, 2022 14:48:47 GMT -8
My all-time (since 1997 when I started paying attention) Beaver baseball team: C: Rutchman 1B: Gerber 2B: Bazzana SS: Barney 3B: Barden LF: Conforto CF: Ellsbury RF: Gillespie SP: Nickerson SP: Buck SP: Heimlich (unless we're considering him ineligible, then I'm going Moore) CP: Gundersen No love for KJ Harrison at 1B? Madrigal losing out to Bazzana? I love Bazzana, but that is some crazy talk right there. No love for Grenier? Barney was a great baseball player, but he did not really have the arm for shortstop. Barney won his Gold Glove at second. Grenier was phenomenal as a defensive shortstop. Beau Philip was also a very good defensive shortstop with a better arm than Barney. Trevor Larnach over Gillespie. There are a lot of good pitchers: Drew Rasmussen (when healthy), Andrew Moore and Jace Fry were the three best that I remember. Dallas Buck was a sabermetrics dream that never materialized in the Minors. Nickerson had the best rubber arm of the bunch. Gerber was a better hitter than KJ. Larnach & Gillespie are very close. Both had two very good years hitting. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 12, 2022 15:04:08 GMT -8
No love for KJ Harrison at 1B? Madrigal losing out to Bazzana? I love Bazzana, but that is some crazy talk right there. No love for Grenier? Barney was a great baseball player, but he did not really have the arm for shortstop. Barney won his Gold Glove at second. Grenier was phenomenal as a defensive shortstop. Beau Philip was also a very good defensive shortstop with a better arm than Barney. Trevor Larnach over Gillespie. There are a lot of good pitchers: Drew Rasmussen (when healthy), Andrew Moore and Jace Fry were the three best that I remember. Dallas Buck was a sabermetrics dream that never materialized in the Minors. Nickerson had the best rubber arm of the bunch. Gerber was a better hitter than KJ. Larnach & Gillespie are very close. Both had two very good years hitting. Gerber was hitting against the North, though, and had an extra year. Gerber was closer to making to the Show in his first five years, but Harrison still has a couple of years to break in. |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 12, 2022 15:22:25 GMT -8
Gerber was a better hitter than KJ. Larnach & Gillespie are very close. Both had two very good years hitting. Gerber was hitting against the North, though, and had an extra year. Gerber was closer to making to the Show in his first five years, but Harrison still has a couple of years to break in. Gerber played two years in the unified Pac10 and and hit .387 and .352. I think he did OK. This is about their OSU careers. Has nothing to do with how they did after. |
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Post by ricke71 on May 12, 2022 15:25:08 GMT -8
Ellsbury hands down.....I know I’m muddying the water on this but he should have got MVP in the MLB but they went with a pitcher who played in probably 1/10 games that JE played. He was a front runner the following year for MVP when he got that freak injury at second base when the infielder landed on top of him and knocked him out for the rest of the year. He never was quite the same after that. I image that those MLB post-season goodies are really treasured by players as they grow older...especially as they get a chance to share them with grandkids and all of that. Darwin Barney is a gold glover - forever. It's tangible. He has the hardware. The Bosox collapse (which Jacoby had NOTHING to do with) in September 2011 (Ellsbury's 'MVP' season) is one of the most shameful scenarios in recent MLB history. Though perhaps it's more typical than the average fan is aware. The Fried Chicken-likin' teammates that lost their City a pennant, and cost Ellsbury the MVP, will live in infamy: I'm talkin' Josh Beckett and others: "During games when they were not scheduled to pitch, Josh Beckett, Jon Lester, and John Lackey were not in the dugout with the rest of their teammates. Instead, they reportedly sat in the clubhouse, played video games, ate fast-food fried chicken and drank beer....The top three pitchers - the leaders on the field, the ones who were supposed to set the attitude for everyone in the clubhouse - distanced themselves from their teammates, slacked off, and did not pull their weight at crucial moments."
Would that ever happen in College Baseball? No. It's one of the reasons that I love College BB, and don't give a sh!t about MLB. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 12, 2022 18:55:16 GMT -8
Andy Jarvis (2000-03) was probably our best first baseman in the Pac-12 era. Four-year starter, 34 homers, 173 RBIs, .321 career average, OB% of .398, .339, .436 and .393 and OPS of .912, .862, 1.033 and .872. And he was an excellent fielder who had 55 walks and only 46 strikeouts as a junior and senior.
Ken Bowen was an outstanding shortstop in the 1980s who made it to AAA. He would have fit in on any OSU team in the past 40 years.
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Post by tamatrix on May 12, 2022 19:47:04 GMT -8
Weren't Jordan Poyer and Yvenson Bernard on baseball team too???
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 12, 2022 20:57:09 GMT -8
Weren't Jordan Poyer and Yvenson Bernard on baseball team too??? Yvenson Bernard was drafted in the 33rd Round by the Twins but chose to play football. I do not believe that he ever was on the baseball team. Jordan Poyer was drafted in the 42nd Round by the Marlins but chose to play football for Oregon State. Poyer was on the 2011 team for a time before he quit midseason to focus on football. |
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Post by beaverboilermaker on May 12, 2022 22:14:09 GMT -8
My all-time (since 1997 when I started paying attention) Beaver baseball team: C: Rutchman 1B: Gerber 2B: Bazzana SS: Barney 3B: Barden LF: Conforto CF: Ellsbury RF: Gillespie SP: Nickerson SP: Buck SP: Heimlich (unless we're considering him ineligible, then I'm going Moore) CP: Gundersen Good list. Madrigal ahead of Bazzana is one that I would change. I would probably also put Melton ahead of Gillespie. Gillespie will remain ahead of Melton unless Jacob can match Cole's incredible 2006 season (Pac P.O.Y. and National Championship). My own list leans very heavily recent because of the program's great success since the Pac unification. All 3 starting OF were Pac Players of the Year, which is why they get the nod over Larnach, and to this point, over Melton. Other than the OF, the hardest players to leave out were Scott Nicholson (AA & All-Pac 2001), Grenier (2018 Pac Defensive POY, 2x CWS), and Mitch Canham (2007 AA, 3x CWS). I hope to one day see another Beaver win both a CWS Most Outstanding Player and a Golden Spikes Award - that would knock any player other than Adley off this list! C: Rutchman (Golden Spikes Award & Pac POY 2019, CWS MOP, 2x CWS) 1B: Jim Wilson (PacNorth POY 1982, Single-season OSU HR record) 2B: Madrigal (Pac POY 2018, 2x CWS) SS: Barney (Fr. AA 2005, 3x CWS) 3B: Barden (Fr. AA 2000, 2x All-Pac) OF: Conforto (2x Pac POY 2013-14, CWS) OF: Ellsbury (Pac POY 2005, CWS) OF: Gillespie (Pac POY 2006, 2x CWS) SP: Nickerson (CWS MVP 2006, 2x CWS) SP: Buck (AA 2006, 2x CWS) SP: Heimlich (2x Pac Pitcher of Year, 2x CWS) CP: Gundersen (Fr. AA 2004, AA 2006, 2x CWS) |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 13, 2022 6:19:42 GMT -8
Scott Christman had one of the greatest pitching seasons in OSU history in 1993, 14-1, 2.20, 119 Ks in 110 innings. Drafted in the first round by the White Sox, who then changed his motion and ruined his career. As a collegian, he was as good as anyone on any of our championship staffs.
Mike Thurman was also as good as anyone we've had, a first-round draft pick by the Expos. He had the misfortune to pitch in Montreal when that franchise was terrible.
We had many outstanding players under Riley, and under Pat before reunification, and before the program exploded in 2005. Our roster just wasn't as deep. Aaron Mathews would have started on every one of our College World Series teams.
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