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Post by qbeaver on May 2, 2022 7:53:03 GMT -8
Seems numerous people are underwhelmed by this addition. I think she is a nice part of the team for 22-23. We need the right girls not just highly rated ones. We're not going to likely get another Brown or Jones. We need players who want to be Beavers who will play team ball and give their all. Players who will buy in. Everybody has an opinion. Myself included. I think we should just let this play out and see what Scott puts on the court. I have faith in him. He hasn't changed...the landscape has. This is the new norm everywhere...try to get used to it.
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Post by rgeorge on May 2, 2022 8:31:12 GMT -8
I've seen no poster state predictions on how things will play out. Other recruits or season. Myself, I've simply pointed out obvious facts that on this same board have been construed as "negatives" in the past.
Another grad transfer that has never been a major contributor at the P5 level. That has been associated with 4 schools in less than a year.
Has played in 57 total games, 29 being in one season ('18-19 I believe) and 16 last, since 2017.
In very very limited action she has been a 6ppg type scorer, who slumped to a low 30% shooter in her most recent 16 games.
Point being, this is in no way the type of recruit folks on this board expected/ wanted/ hoped for by this point in time. Nor does it fill a real need and would have been called "exciting" in the previous month.
At this time OSU has one proven Pac12 starter, a couple "could bes", a ton of inexperienced frosh, and no experienced size with some athleticism.
Edit... wanted to actually see the roster as it stands:
Yeaney (Grad) Aaron (Grad) Mannon (RJr) Marotte (So) Mitrovic (RSo) TVO (So) Gardiner (Fr) Beers (Fr) Blacklock (Fr) Hansford (Fr)
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Post by Werebeaver on May 2, 2022 8:35:29 GMT -8
I've seen no poster state predictions on how things will play out. Other recruits or season. Myself, I've simply pointed out obvious facts that on this same board have been construed as "negatives" in the past. Another grad transfer that has never been a major contributor at the P5 level. That has been associated with 4 schools in less than a year. Has played in 57 total games, 29 being in one season ('18-19 I believe) and 16 last, since 2017. In very very limited action she has been a 6ppg type scorer, who slumped to a low 30% shooter in her most recent 16 games. Point being, this is in no way the type of recruit folks on this board expected/ wanted/ hoped for by this point in time. Nor does it fill a real need and would have been called "exciting" in the previous month. Who on the portal list do you think would "fill the bill"?
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Post by rgeorge on May 2, 2022 8:41:14 GMT -8
I've seen no poster state predictions on how things will play out. Other recruits or season. Myself, I've simply pointed out obvious facts that on this same board have been construed as "negatives" in the past. Another grad transfer that has never been a major contributor at the P5 level. That has been associated with 4 schools in less than a year. Has played in 57 total games, 29 being in one season ('18-19 I believe) and 16 last, since 2017. In very very limited action she has been a 6ppg type scorer, who slumped to a low 30% shooter in her most recent 16 games. Point being, this is in no way the type of recruit folks on this board expected/ wanted/ hoped for by this point in time. Nor does it fill a real need and would have been called "exciting" in the previous month. Who on the portal list do you think would "fill the bill"? Several posters have listed numerous possibilities. But, again coaches decide targets, players decide schools.
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Post by sparty on May 2, 2022 8:48:40 GMT -8
Who on the portal list do you think would "fill the bill"? Several posters have listed numerous possibilities. But, again coaches decide targets, players decide schools. Basically what you are saying is there is a disconnect between who they really would like to get verses who they can actually land. Am I correct in what you are trying to convey here?
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Post by hoopheritic on May 2, 2022 8:51:52 GMT -8
I've seen no poster state predictions on how things will play out. Other recruits or season. Myself, I've simply pointed out obvious facts that on this same board have been construed as "negatives" in the past. Another grad transfer that has never been a major contributor at the P5 level. That has been associated with 4 schools in less than a year. Has played in 57 total games, 29 being in one season ('18-19 I believe) and 16 last, since 2017. In very very limited action she has been a 6ppg type scorer, who slumped to a low 30% shooter in her most recent 16 games. Point being, this is in no way the type of recruit folks on this board expected/ wanted/ hoped for by this point in time. Nor does it fill a real need and would have been called "exciting" in the previous month. Who on the portal list do you think would "fill the bill"? My worry is the Beavs now have 5 players whose natural position is 2 Guard. That can't be good for locker room chemistry. Yeaney (Grad) Aaron (Grad) Marotte (So) TVO (So) Blacklock (Fr) Hansford (Fr) Marotte and Yeaney have the most speed out of the group, by a lot. Are they going to be at the point?
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Post by bvrbooster on May 2, 2022 9:11:38 GMT -8
Really? So out of the hundreds in the portal at 6.5 points per game is the best Scott can do? Sounds like there is some "wait we have to get someone routine because May is upon us" But spin away as this is the best portal option left out there. There are hundreds of better choices in the mix. So many here suggested good portal picks in the last two weeks here that seemed so intriguing. Is this an upgrade to those that left? Better than Brown for example. Think not. This is a dice roller pick that was not needed at this time. We would be slamming this selection if any other pac-12 school made this choice. "There are hundreds of better choices in the mix." How does signing Alexis possibly impact our chances with a single one of them in a negative way? If somebody is one of the hundreds better than Alexis, she won't be at all concerned about beating her out for playing time. And there are still up to 5 scholarships to give.
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Post by speakthetruth on May 2, 2022 9:17:21 GMT -8
Bottom line comparing the roster that was expected next year prior to transfers out and the current roster for next year this team is not better by a long shot. And last season the team was not all that good. I think most of us expected, hoped for better in the transfer portal.
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Post by sparty on May 2, 2022 9:27:27 GMT -8
Bottom line comparing the roster that was expected next year prior to transfers out and the current roster for next year this team is not better by a long shot. And last season the team was not all that good. I think most of us expected, hoped for better in the transfer portal. Bingo, we have a winner. Only saving grace is what happens in the next two weeks. Of course everyone else is saying this too. When all of this is done it will be interesting which pac-12 teams had a next gain, loss or stayed even.
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Post by beaverfever148 on May 2, 2022 9:29:37 GMT -8
The conclusions y’all come to are baffling. How does 1 roster addition equal no more roster additions/transfers? Why are we trying to figure out who is going to play what position when this team is not complete yet? Franky, it’s becoming a headache to read this board when people make such assumptions and ask such stupid questions. Just be patient!
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Post by Werebeaver on May 2, 2022 9:32:07 GMT -8
Who on the portal list do you think would "fill the bill"? Several posters have listed numerous possibilities. But, again coaches decide targets, players decide schools. And fans complain.
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Post by rgeorge on May 2, 2022 9:44:39 GMT -8
Several posters have listed numerous possibilities. But, again coaches decide targets, players decide schools. Basically what you are saying is there is a disconnect between who they really would like to get verses who they can actually land. Am I correct in what you are trying to convey here? I'm unfortunately beginning to think that. Of course no one know if it is by SR's choice or ??, but only grad transfers so far the last two seasons seems a bit weird?! Add, to that OSU has now lost 4 of their last 5 top recruits and not adding the equivalent in transfers is also a bit alarming. And... also a bit of commentary on the WBB board. If you read back, most all the postseason recruiting "hopes and dreams"/expectations of what the program needed to "fix" the roster seems to contrast with the recent actual signings. Again, no one knows what the roster will be like come September, but at this point it's a touch scary.
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Post by wbosh15 on May 2, 2022 9:49:03 GMT -8
Who on the portal list do you think would "fill the bill"? My worry is the Beavs now have 5 players whose natural position is 2 Guard. That can't be good for locker room chemistry. Yeaney (Grad) Aaron (Grad) Marotte (So) TVO (So) Blacklock (Fr) Hansford (Fr) Marotte and Yeaney have the most speed out of the group, by a lot. Are they going to be at the point? I totally disagree. 1 - Offensively, the 2 and 3 positions are totally interchangeable in modern space and pace basketball. In reality, for most teams the 2-4 positions are completely interchangeable. 2 - I think Hansford doesn't have the footspeed for the wing, and her best position is the 4, using her length and versatility there. 3 - I also think Yeany has the ability to be a small-ball 4, because of her strength. She'll give up a bit of size, but should be able to hold up.
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Post by rgeorge on May 2, 2022 9:49:07 GMT -8
The conclusions y’all come to are baffling. How does 1 roster addition equal no more roster additions/transfers? Why are we trying to figure out who is going to play what position when this team is not complete yet? Franky, it’s becoming a headache to read this board when people make such assumptions and ask such stupid questions. Just be patient! "How does 1 roster addition equal no more roster additions/transfers?"Hmmm can't seem to find this type of post anywhere??? Does this qualify as one of your "stupid questions"? Easy solution to that headache...
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Post by rgeorge on May 2, 2022 10:00:54 GMT -8
My worry is the Beavs now have 5 players whose natural position is 2 Guard. That can't be good for locker room chemistry. Yeaney (Grad) Aaron (Grad) Marotte (So) TVO (So) Blacklock (Fr) Hansford (Fr) Marotte and Yeaney have the most speed out of the group, by a lot. Are they going to be at the point? I totally disagree. 1 - Offensively, the 2 and 3 positions are totally interchangeable in modern space and pace basketball. In reality, for most teams the 2-4 positions are completely interchangeable. 2 - I think Hansford doesn't have the footspeed for the wing, and her best position is the 4, using her length and versatility there. 3 - I also think Yeany has the ability to be a small-ball 4, because of her strength. She'll give up a bit of size, but should be able to hold up. And... I'll totally disagree with this take... - the 1, 2, 3 are interchangable, some "4s" can swing out, but most not on a regular basis as most can not defend a G/W. - Hansford is slight and "stated" at 6'2"... she'd get eaten up by Pac12 PF/C types in the post. Can't imagine what a Ellie Mack type would do to her as a Frosh "4". She's a SG/W that can post up a SG/W. - Yeaney is quick, built but no way can handle playing the "4" unless the opponent is going small ball. OSU is in for a long season if either Yeaney or Hansford are playing the "4" with any regularity. The list above is one of 1, 2, 3's that have some versatility, but not at the "4" vs teams we hope to compete with at the top 3rd/half of the Pac12.
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