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Post by william44 on Apr 16, 2022 15:52:05 GMT -8
Woulda ,coulda,shoulda. Maybe next Year.
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Post by gnawitall on Apr 16, 2022 16:04:12 GMT -8
Alot of solid frosh on the team. Hope that's a silver lining.
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Post by gnawitall on Apr 16, 2022 16:13:20 GMT -8
Maybe we'll be able to apply the 'Ralph didn't really start winning until he'd been here ten years' motif to Berg 🤞🤞🤞
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 16, 2022 16:56:09 GMT -8
Maybe we'll be able to apply the 'Ralph didn't really start winning until he'd been here ten years' motif to Berg 🤞🤞🤞 She's already been to the NCAA tournament numerous times at OSU. |
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Post by gnawitall on Apr 16, 2022 17:15:46 GMT -8
Maybe we'll be able to apply the 'Ralph didn't really start winning until he'd been here ten years' motif to Berg 🤞🤞🤞 She's already been to the NCAA tournament numerous times at OSU. 10 years 5 tournaments, no supers or WCWS and NEVER over .500 in conference. Most wins at 9. Some fans are happy with that. Not me. Probably spoiled by baseball. |
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Post by william44 on Apr 16, 2022 17:26:43 GMT -8
Overall we are not a top caliber team. We are close. I watched the game as well as u of o Arizona. Both Washington, Oregon,and Arizona have more power hitters. We can only be so good with 15 new players. Let us hope none leave. UW was more aggressive and more confident. We lose all three by 1 run each. Whether the school cares I do not know. Our stadium does not compare with uw or uo. So there’s that. Uw and I of o have softball tradition. Arizona as well. We play ucla so let’s see what happens.
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Post by escott58 on Apr 16, 2022 18:51:07 GMT -8
I know it's disappointing to lose to UW, but I really think our softball team is on the verge of being a powerhouse. It's a tough league to break into the upper crust, and we've had some great moments so far this year.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 16, 2022 20:13:21 GMT -8
She's already been to the NCAA tournament numerous times at OSU. 10 years 5 tournaments, no supers or WCWS and NEVER over .500 in conference. Most wins at 9. Some fans are happy with that. Not me. Probably spoiled by baseball. I want us to do better, obviously. But she has had some success here and clearly is not a "let's wait for 10 years before she wins anything" coach, as was implied. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 16, 2022 21:52:20 GMT -8
She's already been to the NCAA tournament numerous times at OSU. 10 years 5 tournaments, no supers or WCWS and NEVER over .500 in conference. Most wins at 9. Some fans are happy with that. Not me. Probably spoiled by baseball. Given the perennial failure of OSU volleyball under Mark Barnard, the performance standard for remaining employed as a woman’s sports coach is set pretty low. I wouldn’t worry about my job if I were Laura Berg. |
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Post by grayman on Apr 16, 2022 22:53:10 GMT -8
The Beavers are missing Mazon's bat and Steptoe (sp?) has been injured, so the pitching depth has been hurt. Too bad, because they are really close.
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Post by gnawitall on Apr 17, 2022 6:49:50 GMT -8
10 years 5 tournaments, no supers or WCWS and NEVER over .500 in conference. Most wins at 9. Some fans are happy with that. Not me. Probably spoiled by baseball. I want us to do better, obviously. But she has had some success here and clearly is not a "let's wait for 10 years before she wins anything" coach, as was implied. The 'Ralph' sentiment has to do with OSU becoming a perennial power or that's what I gleaned from the board anyway. I don't deny she's had some success and if she ever gets the lock down pitching to catapult us to a conference title I'd like to think with that success and her pedigree she could ride that wave for a bit. Here's hoping 🍻 |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 17, 2022 9:03:04 GMT -8
10 years 5 tournaments, no supers or WCWS and NEVER over .500 in conference. Most wins at 9. Some fans are happy with that. Not me. Probably spoiled by baseball. Given the perennial failure of OSU volleyball under Mark Barnard, the performance standard for remaining employed as a woman’s sports coach is set pretty low. I wouldn’t worry about my job if I were Laura Berg. Nor should she, since she's most likely taking her team to the NCAA tournament this season. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 17, 2022 9:04:54 GMT -8
Given the perennial failure of OSU volleyball under Mark Barnard, the performance standard for remaining employed as a woman’s sports coach is set pretty low. I wouldn’t worry about my job if I were Laura Berg. Nor should she, since she's most likely taking her team to the NCAA tournament this season. Agreed, as far as I can see they’re having a good season so far. |
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 17, 2022 10:26:58 GMT -8
I'm not going to excuse coaching records/success in either sport, but both VB and SB are probably two most competitive sports in the Pac 12. Both have numerous teams in the top 25 each season. I do not see OSU ever being a consistently major player for conference titles in either sport.
In VB the Pac 12 has won 17 of the 40 titles. BUT, has been the runner up another 15 times! That's 32 of 40 years of having at least one team in the championship match (5 matches were Pac12 vs Pac12). In addition, 22 other teams have been in the Final 4. THe Pac12 pretty much dominates the national scene. OSU needs to improve, but upper level of the bottom half is about all one could expect in this conference.
In SB, only (13) programs have won national titles, and (5) are from the Pac12. UCLA (13... but, 1995 vacated)), Zona (8), ASU (2), Cal (1), UW (1). Not all were won as member of the Pac12, but it goes to show how many great SB teams in the conference. That is 25 of the 40 titles, with 17 other teams losing the title series. On (12) occasions (11 of 14 years in one stretch) the title was (current) Pac12 vs Pac12. WCWS appearances is even more impressive by current Pac12 members... UCLA (33 with 22 title series), Zona (28/14), ASU (19/4), Cal (15/3), UW (14/4)... five of the top 6 with only Oklahoma slipping in with (18/7). Ucks are at (8/0), OSU (4/0... none since 2006).
Again two very difficult sports with multiple teams with great histories of successes in the Pac12. Pretty tough road to recruit and compete against.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 17, 2022 10:36:36 GMT -8
I'm not going to excuse coaching records/success in either sport, but both VB and SB are probably two most competitive sports in the Pac 12. Both have numerous teams in the top 25 each season. I do not see OSU ever being a consistently major player for conference titles in either sport. In VB the Pac 12 has won 17 of the 40 titles. BUT, has been the runner up another 15 times! That's 32 of 40 years of having at least one team in the championship match (5 matches were Pac12 vs Pac12). In addition, 22 other teams have been in the Final 4. THe Pac12 pretty much dominates the national scene. OSU needs to improve, but upper level of the bottom half is about all one could expect in this conference. In SB, only (13) programs have won national titles, and (5) are from the Pac12. UCLA (13... but, 1995 vacated)), Zona (8), ASU (2), Cal (1), UW (1). Not all were won as member of the Pac12, but it goes to show how many great SB teams in the conference. That is 25 of the 40 titles, with 17 other teams losing the title series. On (12) occasions (11 of 14 years in one stretch) the title was (current) Pac12 vs Pac12. WCWS appearances is even more impressive by current Pac12 members... UCLA (33 with 22 title series), Zona (28/14), ASU (19/4), Cal (15/3), UW (14/4)... five of the top 6 with only Oklahoma slipping in with (18/7). Ucks are at (8/0), OSU (4/0... none since 2006). Again two very difficult sports with multiple teams with great histories of successes in the Pac12. Pretty tough road to recruit and compete against. Sounds like you and gnawitall have different expectations. |
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