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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 4, 2022 13:31:45 GMT -8
"It's a message board" should not be an excuse to be an asshole. There's a difference between saying "Verburg is struggling, I don't know why they keep putting him out there in close games" and "Verburg is DONE, I hope we don't ever see him again." There's a difference between saying "I wouldn't have sent the runner there" and "The coaching staff just showed how over its head they are by trying to score there. These guys are terrible." It just gets old, seeing people go in on the guys we are allegedly the biggest fans of. Gets really old. Perhaps I overreacted. Get sick of hearing how bad our pitchers are. Show me another team anywhere that could lose 2 or 3 (if you count Mundt) starting pitchers and still win the way the Beavs have. I'll wait. Past all the flame war I agree. We actually have lost much more than that. We lost Abel, Burns, Salgado and, Watkins to the pros, Mulholland to graduation and Washburn to transfer. Then you add Pfennings, Mundt and Frisch to injury. I would argue that Verberg is still kinda lost to injury although I have hope for the guy. That’s 9 guys who would be starting, closing or playing serious relief. Seeing that list it’s no surprise we made it so far with weak offense last year and that the offense is carrying us now. If Kmatz wasn’t such a stud freshman we would be absolutely screwed. Edit: Ferrer and Carpenter have been the other truly critical additions to the first half of the season. Props to the coaches for finding 3 game ready guys.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 4, 2022 14:11:23 GMT -8
"It's a message board" should not be an excuse to be an asshole. There's a difference between saying "Verburg is struggling, I don't know why they keep putting him out there in close games" and "Verburg is DONE, I hope we don't ever see him again." There's a difference between saying "I wouldn't have sent the runner there" and "The coaching staff just showed how over its head they are by trying to score there. These guys are terrible." It just gets old, seeing people go in on the guys we are allegedly the biggest fans of. I've been frustrated with the decision to bring in Verburg. And yes, I comment on it. I never called the coaches idiots, or said anything about Verburg other than he seemed to be toast, and I was surprised the coaches kept putting him in, in pressure situations.....I understand they are trying to implement him in.....it's just frustrating to watch it not work out time and again. The "uncle" thing directed at irimi was after he had already pretty much called me an idiot.....hell, after the initial interaction where he said Verburg would figure it out, I responded with " I hope ur right".....I do hope he figures it out! I'll gladly eat crow if it makes our team better! That irimi guy just gets under my skin.....I'll try my best to ignore him.
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Post by nabeav on Apr 4, 2022 14:43:35 GMT -8
flyfishinbeav - My comment was more directed at the board in general than just you...just used the "uncle" comment as an example. Straw that broke this camel's back so to speak. I get that everyone here loves the beavs and wants them to win, I just wish we could collectively express that love in less "these guys aren't good" manner every time we lose, or (in the case of the Nevada series) don't win by as much as people would like.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 4, 2022 14:52:26 GMT -8
flyfishinbeav - My comment was more directed at the board in general than just you...just used the "uncle" comment as an example. Straw that broke this camel's back so to speak. I get that everyone here loves the beavs and wants them to win, I just wish we could collectively express that love in less "these guys aren't good" manner every time we lose, or (in the case of the Nevada series) don't win by as much as people would like. Probably all the entitled millennials…like me
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 4, 2022 15:16:18 GMT -8
flyfishinbeav - My comment was more directed at the board in general than just you...just used the "uncle" comment as an example. Straw that broke this camel's back so to speak. I get that everyone here loves the beavs and wants them to win, I just wish we could collectively express that love in less "these guys aren't good" manner every time we lose, or (in the case of the Nevada series) don't win by as much as people would like. I just enjoy the discussion.....and I appreciate ur POV. One of the reasons I don't often go onto the FB group Pure Orange is because what is happening with this discussion. Constant bickering between "negative Nancys" and the "positive Pollys". IMO, there's a difference between someone saying "pitching sucks, and we'll be lucky to make a regional" vs showing frustration like I have.......but I get grouped into the "negative Nancys" and personally attacked, then the fight starts.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 4, 2022 15:29:05 GMT -8
flyfishinbeav - My comment was more directed at the board in general than just you...just used the "uncle" comment as an example. Straw that broke this camel's back so to speak. I get that everyone here loves the beavs and wants them to win, I just wish we could collectively express that love in less "these guys aren't good" manner every time we lose, or (in the case of the Nevada series) don't win by as much as people would like. I just enjoy the discussion.....and I appreciate ur POV. One of the reasons I don't often go onto the FB group Pure Orange is because what is happening with this discussion. Constant bickering between "negative Nancys" and the "positive Pollys". IMO, there's a difference between someone saying "pitching sucks, and we'll be lucky to make a regional" vs showing frustration like I have.......but I get grouped into the "negative Nancys" and personally attacked, then the fight starts. Just gotta relax into the oness of the universe and Lebowski it out. “That’s just like your opinion, man.” - The Dude
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 4, 2022 16:05:59 GMT -8
I just enjoy the discussion.....and I appreciate ur POV. One of the reasons I don't often go onto the FB group Pure Orange is because what is happening with this discussion. Constant bickering between "negative Nancys" and the "positive Pollys". IMO, there's a difference between someone saying "pitching sucks, and we'll be lucky to make a regional" vs showing frustration like I have.......but I get grouped into the "negative Nancys" and personally attacked, then the fight starts. Just gotta relax into the oness of the universe and Lebowski it out. “That’s just like your opinion, man.” - The Dude "Nothing is f@#ked dude....c'mon, you're being verrry unduuude." -Walter Sobchak
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Post by beavheart on Apr 4, 2022 16:48:25 GMT -8
Message boards remind me of what we do to each other on the road.
It's anonymous, so I'm just going to go ahead and be a total jackass, or argue right past someone, or say things I would never say to someone's face... because I can. The poster who has to argue every point into a bloody pulp reminds me of the guy who will tailgate me incessantly even when I'm not going slow at all, only to JUST BARELY go a fraction of a MPH faster when I get over to let him pass, all so he can be "first".
Just like the road, it seems to be a place that can bring out the worst in us. At the same time, when someone shows some grace on here or on the road it can be a real shot in the arm.
Can't we all just get along? -RKing
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Post by beaverdreams on Apr 4, 2022 17:18:10 GMT -8
Message boards remind me of what we do to each other on the road. It's anonymous, so I'm just going to go ahead and be a total jackass, or argue right past someone, or say things I would never say to someone's face... because I can. The poster who has to argue every point into a bloody pulp reminds me of the guy who will tailgate me incessantly even when I'm not going slow at all, only to JUST BARELY go a fraction of a MPH faster when I get over to let him pass, all so he can be "first". Just like the road, it seems to be a place that can bring out the worst in us. At the same time, when someone shows some grace on here or on the road it can be a real shot in the arm. Can't we all just get along? -RKing Well put, Beavheart....... I always ask myself before posting, is this the way I would respond to this person in real life face to face? It's just a matter of cordiality and decency.....
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Post by beaver56 on Apr 5, 2022 8:14:05 GMT -8
"It's a message board" should not be an excuse to be an asshole. There's a difference between saying "Verburg is struggling, I don't know why they keep putting him out there in close games" and "Verburg is DONE, I hope we don't ever see him again." There's a difference between saying "I wouldn't have sent the runner there" and "The coaching staff just showed how over its head they are by trying to score there. These guys are terrible." It just gets old, seeing people go in on the guys we are allegedly the biggest fans of. Gets really old. Perhaps I overreacted. Get sick of hearing how bad our pitchers are. Show me another team anywhere that could lose 2 or 3 (if you count Mundt) starting pitchers and still win the way the Beavs have. I'll wait. Hate all the bickering on here BUT I will point out that Tennesee lost their projected #1 and #2 starters going into the year. Their 1 was Tidwell who just last week threw one inning out of the bullpen for his first outing of the season. Their 2 Seth Halvorsen still has yet to throw an inning this season. That team is doing ok
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Post by irimi on Apr 5, 2022 11:01:46 GMT -8
Gets really old. Perhaps I overreacted. Get sick of hearing how bad our pitchers are. Show me another team anywhere that could lose 2 or 3 (if you count Mundt) starting pitchers and still win the way the Beavs have. I'll wait. Hate all the bickering on here BUT I will point out that Tennesee lost their projected #1 and #2 starters going into the year. Their 1 was Tidwell who just last week threw one inning out of the bullpen for his first outing of the season. Their 2 Seth Halvorsen still has yet to throw an inning this season. That team is doing ok Lost how? To injury?
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Post by beaver56 on Apr 5, 2022 13:00:32 GMT -8
Yes to injury.
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Post by irimi on Apr 5, 2022 14:25:29 GMT -8
Great job, for them, then. And I think we are doing just fine with the number of pitchers we've lost.
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Post by beaverbeliever on Apr 5, 2022 20:39:46 GMT -8
#4 Texas Tech lost today to Grand Canyon - definitely not a bad split with them.
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Post by wetrodentia on Apr 5, 2022 20:59:08 GMT -8
My son is a freshman at GCU. Asked him if he went to the game and he said no he’s busy doing homework. Scratching checks for tuition and I still have mixed emotions about his priorities ; ) Told him not to let it happen again.
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