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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 23, 2022 19:20:55 GMT -8
Pitchers looked like they were going after Dernedde. And he wasn’t challenging them. Forrester is still trying to get his swing back after the injury in the fall. How long can we wait? I think he still presents a formidable foe for opposing pitchers, so I’m not worried yet. And I don’t want to read too much into a midweek game. We won. That’s enough. As Billy Bean would say, “He gets on base”. I too would love to see him back to hitting form but his OBP is #2 on the team behind Boyd for guys over 25 AB. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 23, 2022 20:29:26 GMT -8
Loved watching Hunter put in an economical and commanding performance. Hope he keeps developing. Looks to me like the best Sunday option while pfennigs is out. He got lambasted against GCU but other than that game he has been really solid and efficient. He can do decent outings of 50+ tosses and is an accurate contact pitcher. He will get hosed by frame at hitters but the only other options I see that can do 3+ innings are Ferrer and Townsend. Ferrer average outing is 1.9 innings and is a great strike out pitcher. Townsend has been rough so far this year. I wouldn’t mind seeing Hunter in the #3 until pfennigs gets back and then he could be a really solid midweek starter. I’d like to see Ferrer or Lattery get a s%#t at closer and put Verberg back in mid relief. Sunday, Ferrer threw 5 innings of great baseball coming in early for Lattery. He had 7 strikeouts, against a better team. I don’t know, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him given the Sunday slot. But that depends on how comfortable he is with starting vs. relief. I liked Hunter’s outing today, but I like him starting the midweek games and working a few innings here and there in relief. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 23, 2022 20:34:05 GMT -8
Looks to me like the best Sunday option while pfennigs is out. He got lambasted against GCU but other than that game he has been really solid and efficient. He can do decent outings of 50+ tosses and is an accurate contact pitcher. He will get hosed by frame at hitters but the only other options I see that can do 3+ innings are Ferrer and Townsend. Ferrer average outing is 1.9 innings and is a great strike out pitcher. Townsend has been rough so far this year. I wouldn’t mind seeing Hunter in the #3 until pfennigs gets back and then he could be a really solid midweek starter. I’d like to see Ferrer or Lattery get a s%#t at closer and put Verberg back in mid relief. Sunday, Ferrer threw 5 innings of great baseball coming in early for Lattery. He had 7 strikeouts, against a better team. I don’t know, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him given the Sunday slot. But that depends on how comfortable he is with starting vs. relief. I liked Hunter’s outing today, but I like him starting the midweek games and working a few innings here and there in relief. I agree it was a great outing but also an anomaly for his ISU career so far. If he can reliably repeat that level of pitching for 5 innings a week you can make the argument that pfennigs moves to midweek. Just no clue if he is that kind of horse. If he isn’t I do feel that he has proved himself extremely reliable at getting outs so should be looked at for the closer job. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 23, 2022 20:42:09 GMT -8
Sunday, Ferrer threw 5 innings of great baseball coming in early for Lattery. He had 7 strikeouts, against a better team. I don’t know, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him given the Sunday slot. But that depends on how comfortable he is with starting vs. relief. I liked Hunter’s outing today, but I like him starting the midweek games and working a few innings here and there in relief. I agree it was a great outing but also an anomaly for his ISU career so far. If he can reliably repeat that level of pitching for 5 innings a week you can make the argument that pfennigs moves to midweek. Just no clue if he is that kind of horse. If he isn’t I do feel that he has proved himself extremely reliable at getting outs so should be looked at for the closer job. Which “he” are you talking about? And I’m certainly not advocating moving Pfennigs to midweek. If Pfennigs is back and true to form, Saturday is his, and Kmatz pitches Sunday. And then we have a whole host of pitchers for midweek. But I don’t count my chickens…. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 23, 2022 20:51:13 GMT -8
I agree it was a great outing but also an anomaly for his ISU career so far. If he can reliably repeat that level of pitching for 5 innings a week you can make the argument that pfennigs moves to midweek. Just no clue if he is that kind of horse. If he isn’t I do feel that he has proved himself extremely reliable at getting outs so should be looked at for the closer job. Which “he” are you talking about? And I’m certainly not advocating moving Pfennigs to midweek. If Pfennigs is back and true to form, Saturday is his, and Kmatz pitches Sunday. And then we have a whole host of pitchers for midweek. But I don’t count my chickens…. He is Ferrer! Just saying if Ferrer can consistently pitch 80+ a week at that level it’s no contest to put him in Sunday until Pfennigs is back to form. Just no clue if Ferrer can handle that kind of work. Yeah I’m looking at Pfennigs this year in early appearances not career. Definitely was not his normal self. |
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Post by vhalum92 on Mar 24, 2022 8:28:57 GMT -8
I'm guessing Pfennings hasn't been throwing during this down time. When he does come back he is going to need time to ramp up the pitch count.
I had an idea, and I'm not on the coaching staff, but I do think they are smarter than I am as well.....
How about Pfennings as your closer?
Outside of the box thinking but it might be the best impact spot we need right now while his endurance gets built back up.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 24, 2022 15:47:28 GMT -8
I'm guessing Pfennings hasn't been throwing during this down time. When he does come back he is going to need time to ramp up the pitch count. I had an idea, and I'm not on the coaching staff, but I do think they are smarter than I am as well..... How about Pfennings as your closer? Outside of the box thinking but it might be the best impact spot we need right now while his endurance gets built back up. Interesting concept. I’m not a pitching guru or anything but usually you want a heavy strike out guy at closer. Pfennigs is a location first pitch to contact guy if I’m not mistaken. He can go the distance and generates lots of defendable in field contact (and double plays) but not really the guy who knocks 3 down in a row with nasty strike outs. |
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 24, 2022 17:13:07 GMT -8
I'm guessing Pfennings hasn't been throwing during this down time. When he does come back he is going to need time to ramp up the pitch count. I had an idea, and I'm not on the coaching staff, but I do think they are smarter than I am as well..... How about Pfennings as your closer? Outside of the box thinking but it might be the best impact spot we need right now while his endurance gets built back up. Interesting concept. I’m not a pitching guru or anything but usually you want a heavy strike out guy at closer. Pfennigs is a location first pitch to contact guy if I’m not mistaken. He can go the distance and generates lots of defendable in field contact (and double plays) but not really the guy who knocks 3 down in a row with nasty strike outs. Well, the object is to get outs. Throwing strikes with multiple pitches/speeds and using a very solid defense is a good thing. Dan Quisenberry, Doug Jones, Rollie Fingers weren't strike out types, but seemed to do just fine. There are others, but the big strike out guy is intimidating. Ferrer is the best candidate to start in my opinion. Pfennings will be on a very limited pitch count for a few series. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 24, 2022 18:21:28 GMT -8
Interesting concept. I’m not a pitching guru or anything but usually you want a heavy strike out guy at closer. Pfennigs is a location first pitch to contact guy if I’m not mistaken. He can go the distance and generates lots of defendable in field contact (and double plays) but not really the guy who knocks 3 down in a row with nasty strike outs. Well, the object is to get outs. Throwing strikes with multiple pitches/speeds and using a very solid defense is a good thing. Dan Quisenberry, Doug Jones, Rollie Fingers weren't strike out types, but seemed to do just fine. There are others, but the big strike out guy is intimidating. Ferrer is the best candidate to start in my opinion. Pfennings will be on a very limited pitch count for a few series. I would add Trevor Hoffman to your list. Best pitch was a change up. You don’t have to throw high 90’s to be a closer. |
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Post by rilesinnewberg on Mar 24, 2022 18:32:26 GMT -8
Ferrer started 7 games last year for Upstate and went 4-2 with a 4.09 ERA. It appears he could start games just fine.
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 24, 2022 18:41:19 GMT -8
Ferrer started 7 games last year for Upstate and went 4-2 with a 4.09 ERA. It appears he could start games just fine. And, he's the only pen guy who's thrown extended innings in a game. Plus he e excelled. I'm not sure what the hesitation is with MC and Dorman?! Getting 5+ from him completely revamps the pen. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 24, 2022 22:05:32 GMT -8
Ferrer started 7 games last year for Upstate and went 4-2 with a 4.09 ERA. It appears he could start games just fine. And, he's the only pen guy who's thrown extended innings in a game. Plus he e excelled. I'm not sure what the hesitation is with MC and Dorman?! Getting 5+ from him completely revamps the pen. Is there hesitation? Why do you think so? |
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 24, 2022 22:08:43 GMT -8
And, he's the only pen guy who's thrown extended innings in a game. Plus he e excelled. I'm not sure what the hesitation is with MC and Dorman?! Getting 5+ from him completely revamps the pen. Is there hesitation? Why do you think so? I'm not sure there is or why. But, he's shown he can go 5, and has started previously, but still hasn't gotten a start. I thought for sure he'd get a look by now when two guys went down. |
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Post by grovestbeav on Mar 24, 2022 23:39:24 GMT -8
I see some reference to Jake Pfenigs coming back. Is there some news out there pointing to a return game?
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Post by jimbob on Mar 25, 2022 2:59:36 GMT -8
Well, the object is to get outs. Throwing strikes with multiple pitches/speeds and using a very solid defense is a good thing. Dan Quisenberry, Doug Jones, Rollie Fingers weren't strike out types, but seemed to do just fine. There are others, but the big strike out guy is intimidating. Ferrer is the best candidate to start in my opinion. Pfennings will be on a very limited pitch count for a few series. I would add Trevor Hoffman to your list. Best pitch was a change up. You don’t have to throw high 90’s to be a closer. Sergio Romo comes to my mind also---137 career saves and I don't recall him ever even touching 90 much less mid to high 90's! His best pitch is that frisbee-like slider that he kind of slings up there sidearm. Seattle just signed him this week at age 39 to a 1 yr. contract for 2 million to take Casey Sadlers spot in the pen----Sadler will be having season ending shoulder surgery. |
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