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Post by irimi on Mar 17, 2022 13:20:13 GMT -8
You are disrespecting our opponent. Don’t do that. It’s not classy. Suggesting our pitchers are chicken feed and that’s why GCU hammered them is crap. Saying that our pitchers our community college level so that’s why GCU hammered them is really saying that GCU is a weak opponent. That’s crap. Be better. Be a Beaver fan. Respect your opponent. not just talking about the beavers last opponent. the group of middle/long relievers has thrown 75 innings, had just over 100 base runners, struck of 56 and is pitching to an era of around 5.50. simple pointing out that is not good enough and i don't see a fix. Not seeing a fix is pretty short-sighted. Pfennigs will be back in next weekend or so, according to Parker. So that's a regular, proven starter that we should be able to count on. Meanwhile, a lot of pitchers have shown great ability. I still like Ferrer, though GCU roughed him up a bit. Prior to GCU he was pretty lights out. Carpenter had an amazing appearance as closer. Townsend has the coaches' attention obviously. Maybe he isn't quite "there" yet, but every pitcher struggles. And there are others who are working hard to get back out there on the field. Have faith. Also, please remember that last year we were complaining about 2 stats: HBP and BB. Both of these are pretty low this year, comparatively. And we still made it to regionals. |
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 17, 2022 13:28:19 GMT -8
Not getting into a Regional would pretty much take a complete collapse. Prob a 6th place or lower finish in Pac12 and 2 and 'que in Pac12 tourney.
Not going to happen. But, things must improve in a few areas to contend for a Pac12 title, Pac12 tourney title, and Regional host.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 17, 2022 13:32:23 GMT -8
not just talking about the beavers last opponent. the group of middle/long relievers has thrown 75 innings, had just over 100 base runners, struck of 56 and is pitching to an era of around 5.50. simple pointing out that is not good enough and i don't see a fix. Not seeing a fix is pretty short-sighted. Pfennigs will be back in next weekend or so, according to Parker. So that's a regular, proven starter that we should be able to count on. Meanwhile, a lot of pitchers have shown great ability. I still like Ferrer, though GCU roughed him up a bit. Prior to GCU he was pretty lights out. Carpenter had an amazing appearance as closer. Townsend has the coaches' attention obviously. Maybe he isn't quite "there" yet, but every pitcher struggles. And there are others who are working hard to get back out there on the field. Have faith. Also, please remember that last year we were complaining about 2 stats: HBP and BB. Both of these are pretty low this year, comparatively. And we still made it to regionals. This thread title is just as much as an overreaction as the people proclaiming we were Omaha bound after the first weekend in the season. Lot of games left to figure things out with the bullpen. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 17, 2022 14:14:38 GMT -8
Not seeing a fix is pretty short-sighted. Pfennigs will be back in next weekend or so, according to Parker. So that's a regular, proven starter that we should be able to count on. Meanwhile, a lot of pitchers have shown great ability. I still like Ferrer, though GCU roughed him up a bit. Prior to GCU he was pretty lights out. Carpenter had an amazing appearance as closer. Townsend has the coaches' attention obviously. Maybe he isn't quite "there" yet, but every pitcher struggles. And there are others who are working hard to get back out there on the field. Have faith. Also, please remember that last year we were complaining about 2 stats: HBP and BB. Both of these are pretty low this year, comparatively. And we still made it to regionals. This thread title is just as much as an overreaction as the people proclaiming we were Omaha bound after the first weekend in the season. Lot of games left to figure things out with the bullpen. First, the joke: I thought Canzano wrote it (the title). Second, I disagree. We weren't far from Omaha last year, and we've shown a lot of progress already this year. Third, yes. It's easy to say that there's a lot of work between Corvallis and Omaha. That's a given. But I think we can place our expectations on getting there now. |
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Post by 56chevy on Mar 17, 2022 14:14:41 GMT -8
I agree with flyfishin. I'd ask the doubters to please step away from the ledge...I come up with 7 that I know can pitch. Sebby, Ferrer, Carpenter, Verberg in the pen as well as starters Hjerpe, Kmatz and Pfinnigs. 4 more I think can pitch, Townsend, Lattery, Brown and Thorsteinson.
5 games in 6 days forced us to go deeper than we likely would have to in Omaha.
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Post by rafer on Mar 17, 2022 14:57:47 GMT -8
Didn't Verberg blow his last save? Thought so anyway, maybe not. Couldn't get outs and gave it away at wazzu iirc.. So, the pen is NOT in good shape now, but as has been said, it's a long season..
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 17, 2022 15:48:01 GMT -8
At this point in 2006, Oregon State was 11-5, having just lost to New Mexico by 11. Daniel Turpen gave up three earned in 2/3 of an inning, and Mike Stutes gave up five (one earned) in 3 2/3 innings. There is still a lot of season left to play.
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Post by irimi on Mar 17, 2022 16:30:56 GMT -8
I agree with flyfishin. I'd ask the doubters to please step away from the ledge...I come up with 7 that I know can pitch. Sebby, Ferrer, Carpenter, Verberg in the pen as well as starters Hjerpe, Kmatz and Pfinnigs. 4 more I think can pitch, Townsend, Lattery, Brown and Thorsteinson. 5 games in 7 days forced us to go deeper than we likely would have to in Omaha. I might move Brown over one category. I think he’s very close to being someone we can count on. |
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Post by justdamwin on Mar 17, 2022 19:04:02 GMT -8
GCU put 19 on a 13-4 Arizona squad. They can hit
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Post by eugenedave on Mar 18, 2022 1:03:57 GMT -8
Correct me if I'm wrong, but these were mid-week games. They are almost always an expedition, no matter what point in the season you are at. Especially this early.
And as someone said earlier, GCU can hit.They are a very good team. They beat the hell out of UCLA just before UCLA took down #1 Texas. According to Warren Nolan, after Wednesdays game, our RPI had dropped seven slots to #12, GCU's rose 12 spots to #16.
So, I say phooey to the bullpen naysayers. Dorman was rotating guys in, especially on Wednesday, to see where they fit. Yes, one strikeout from seven pitchers is terrible, but they're not our weekend starters. Some will soar, others will falter. Same thing happens every season with other position players. Be patient, and keep the faith. In Canham, I trust.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 18, 2022 11:31:10 GMT -8
Not seeing a fix is pretty short-sighted. Pfennigs will be back in next weekend or so, according to Parker. So that's a regular, proven starter that we should be able to count on. Meanwhile, a lot of pitchers have shown great ability. I still like Ferrer, though GCU roughed him up a bit. Prior to GCU he was pretty lights out. Carpenter had an amazing appearance as closer. Townsend has the coaches' attention obviously. Maybe he isn't quite "there" yet, but every pitcher struggles. And there are others who are working hard to get back out there on the field. Have faith. Also, please remember that last year we were complaining about 2 stats: HBP and BB. Both of these are pretty low this year, comparatively. And we still made it to regionals. This thread title is just as much as an overreaction as the people proclaiming we were Omaha bound after the first weekend in the season. Lot of games left to figure things out with the bullpen. First of all, the players themselves have been saying "Omaha or bust". And second, I don't recall anyone on here saying this team is "Omaha bound." There are high expectations, but getting to Omaha takes a lot of pieces coming together. I think most of us understand that. The last few games have been disappointing, but I think the overreaction is that we have an unfixable issue with our pitching. Thats an insult to our staff, and the coaches. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 18, 2022 11:44:20 GMT -8
This thread title is just as much as an overreaction as the people proclaiming we were Omaha bound after the first weekend in the season. Lot of games left to figure things out with the bullpen. First of all, the players themselves have been saying "Omaha or bust". And second, I don't recall anyone on here saying this team is "Omaha bound." There are high expectations, but getting to Omaha takes a lot of pieces coming together. I think most of us understand that. The last few games have been disappointing, but I think the overreaction is that we have an unfixable issue with our pitching. Thats an insult to our staff, and the coaches. Yea, nobody would say that. Omaha |
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 18, 2022 11:53:06 GMT -8
First of all, the players themselves have been saying "Omaha or bust". And second, I don't recall anyone on here saying this team is "Omaha bound." There are high expectations, but getting to Omaha takes a lot of pieces coming together. I think most of us understand that. The last few games have been disappointing, but I think the overreaction is that we have an unfixable issue with our pitching. Thats an insult to our staff, and the coaches. Yea, nobody would say that. OmahaNor would anyone ever chide those that said "hold on a sec, it's still very early". |
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Post by ricke71 on Mar 18, 2022 11:57:01 GMT -8
This thread title is just as much as an overreaction as the people proclaiming we were Omaha bound after the first weekend in the season. Lot of games left to figure things out with the bullpen. First of all, the players themselves have been saying "Omaha or bust". And second, I don't recall anyone on here saying this team is "Omaha bound." There are high expectations, but getting to Omaha takes a lot of pieces coming together. I think most of us understand that. The last few games have been disappointing, but I think the overreaction is that we have an unfixable issue with our pitching. Thats an insult to our staff, and the coaches. First of ALL - and the Last and Only thing that really matters: The players had darn-well better be saying "Omaha or Bust!" Imagine if the attitude was instead: "We sure hope to have a good season" ....or.... "Our goal is to reach the post-season!" ....or... "Gosh, I think if we play to our potential, we might get a Regional HOST slot!" |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 18, 2022 14:07:00 GMT -8
First of all, the players themselves have been saying "Omaha or bust". And second, I don't recall anyone on here saying this team is "Omaha bound." There are high expectations, but getting to Omaha takes a lot of pieces coming together. I think most of us understand that. The last few games have been disappointing, but I think the overreaction is that we have an unfixable issue with our pitching. Thats an insult to our staff, and the coaches. First of ALL - and the Last and Only thing that really matters: The players had darn-well better be saying "Omaha or Bust!" Imagine if the attitude was instead: "We sure hope to have a good season" ....or.... "Our goal is to reach the post-season!" ....or... "Gosh, I think if we play to our potential, we might get a Regional HOST slot!" Ask Kevin Gunderson about Omaha or Bust - after the 2005 2 and done, he told the press that we would be back next year. |
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