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Post by TheGlove on Mar 12, 2022 8:34:36 GMT -8
How would you know anything about how hard Troy "worked"? Take your negative BS about former players somewhere else. And, he saw the "writing on the wall" comment... yeah. Troy earned All-Pac 12 First Team and was a member of the Buster Posey Award watch list... played in 55 games, including 52 starts, batting .305 with 25 walks seven doubles, four home runs and 30 RBI... tallied a 17-game hit streak from 4/28-5/29. But, saw a seldom used sub as a guy he couldn't beat out? The guy with 22 total ABs, played in 10 games? That guy? For a guy that tells everyone else to respect the poster and different opinions others have…you are a real douche. Maybe take your own advice and negative BS about current posters somewhere else. Perhaps the A&M board.(We know it wouldn’t be the Gonzaga board, they aren’t a good enough team)  So two wrongs make it right? It’s like second grade around here… |
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Post by jimbeav on Mar 12, 2022 8:41:18 GMT -8
Setting aside any commentary about work ethic or other potential personal attacks, all I know is last year we had more passed balls and a higher stealing against percentage than I can recall in recent memory.
I'm very happy that we have seen none of that so far this year. Based purely on play on the field so far, I have no problem with the quip, "Troy who?"
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 12, 2022 9:44:02 GMT -8
For a guy that tells everyone else to respect the poster and different opinions others have…you are a real douche. Maybe take your own advice and negative BS about current posters somewhere else. Perhaps the A&M board.(We know it wouldn’t be the Gonzaga board, they aren’t a good enough team) So two wrongs make it right? It’s like second grade around here… I'm not going to pretend I'm innocent on here, cuz I haven't always reacted well when I feel slighted......but yea, it seems like there's always an argument brewing just under the surface, on almost any topic. When you step back and look at it, it seems ridiculous......arguing over Troy Claunch's work ethic??? I'm pretty sure he wanted to pursue an advanced degree we didn't offer. And didn't he hurt his hand in Surprise? Which prolly didn't help his defense. He seems like a good dude. I wish him well. |
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Post by beavs6 on Mar 12, 2022 10:42:40 GMT -8
For a guy that tells everyone else to respect the poster and different opinions others have…you are a real douche. Maybe take your own advice and negative BS about current posters somewhere else. Perhaps the A&M board.(We know it wouldn’t be the Gonzaga board, they aren’t a good enough team) So two wrongs make it right? It’s like second grade around here… Very correct. I try to count to 20+ offensive posts before commenting. We also know that if people are allowed to continually run roughshod over others unchecked, they will continue offensive habits. I definitely could have been softer in the rebuttal. |
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Post by grovestbeav on Mar 12, 2022 11:30:55 GMT -8
Troy who worked a lot harder when Adley was here then after he left. How would you know anything about how hard Troy "worked"? Take your negative BS about former players somewhere else. And, he saw the "writing on the wall" comment... yeah. Troy earned All-Pac 12 First Team and was a member of the Buster Posey Award watch list... played in 55 games, including 52 starts, batting .305 with 25 walks seven doubles, four home runs and 30 RBI... tallied a 17-game hit streak from 4/28-5/29. But, saw a seldom used sub as a guy he couldn't beat out? The guy with 22 total ABs, played in 10 games? That guy? Chill bud. The writing on the wall was that Tanner Smith was a hyped recruit. And of you are being honest with yourself. Accolades aside. Troy was a huge let down for us last year. |
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on Mar 12, 2022 11:37:08 GMT -8
The banter on this board is a good thing except when it just gets way too personal.....everyone is entitled to their opinion or take on how they view the game and the players.....just need to lessen the individual attacks on one another. Troy kept playing with damaged goods and my hat is off to him for last year......I’m not going to compare the current catchers to him....nuff said
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 12, 2022 12:33:02 GMT -8
How would you know anything about how hard Troy "worked"? Take your negative BS about former players somewhere else. And, he saw the "writing on the wall" comment... yeah. Troy earned All-Pac 12 First Team and was a member of the Buster Posey Award watch list... played in 55 games, including 52 starts, batting .305 with 25 walks seven doubles, four home runs and 30 RBI... tallied a 17-game hit streak from 4/28-5/29. But, saw a seldom used sub as a guy he couldn't beat out? The guy with 22 total ABs, played in 10 games? That guy? Chill bud. The writing on the wall was that Tanner Smith was a hyped recruit. And of you are being honest with yourself. Accolades aside. Troy was a huge let down for us last year. Yeah, 1st team Pac12 is always a let down! |
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Post by ag87 on Mar 12, 2022 12:49:20 GMT -8
I see grove's comment as being a comment on Clauch's defense. So Mr. Scuba, please let it go.
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 12, 2022 13:13:33 GMT -8
I see grove's comment as being a comment on Clauch's defense. So Mr. Scuba, please let it go. If you can follow along my initial post wasn't a quote of his! Secondly, that may be YOUR interpretation, but it certainly wasn't implied or mentioned in anyway. And, I'm pretty sure All Pac12 takes into account the whole package. What do you think? |
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Post by zeroposter on Mar 12, 2022 13:13:58 GMT -8
All I know is that the improvement in Gavin Logan is impressive. I was not optimistic after last season, but that feeling was based on a tiny sample size. And Smith has been very good.
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Post by ag87 on Mar 12, 2022 13:47:59 GMT -8
I see grove's comment as being a comment on Clauch's defense. So Mr. Scuba, please let it go. If you can follow along my initial post wasn't a quote of his! Secondly, that may be YOUR interpretation, but it certainly wasn't implied or mentioned in anyway. And, I'm pretty sure All Pac12 takes into account the whole package. What do you think? Sorry rgeo. I was only reading the posts where groves said "huge let down" and you replied with "always a let down!" If you were referring to something else, I didn't pick that up. Without any argument all Pac12 (11) is the whole package. But I believe even T. Clauch would say his offense was good last year and his defense was lacking. |
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 12, 2022 14:09:17 GMT -8
If you can follow along my initial post wasn't a quote of his! Secondly, that may be YOUR interpretation, but it certainly wasn't implied or mentioned in anyway. And, I'm pretty sure All Pac12 takes into account the whole package. What do you think? Sorry rgeo. I was only reading the posts where groves said "huge let down" and you replied with "always a let down!" If you were referring to something else, I didn't pick that up. Without any argument all Pac12 (11) is the whole package. But I believe even T. Clauch would say his offense was good last year and his defense was lacking. Yep, but once we're deeper in Pac12 play the running game is a whole lot better than we've seen so far. And, the SB % has a lot to do with OSU having some very average times to the plate and average moves at best for several key pitchers. But, saying a key component to that team didn't "work hard" is BS. And, to me not an opinion. Stating some defensive deficiency, great. But, demeaning his work ethic and then tying it to AR not being here... unnecessary, total fabrication, and contradicts everything said about Troy when he was a member of the team. |
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Post by beavs6 on Mar 12, 2022 15:59:53 GMT -8
Well, I sure wish we had better production—both offensive and defensively—so far this weekend from the catcher position. I think Logan is 6-7 with at least 1 caught stealing. But keep playing the same tune. This TEAM sure seems to continue to take setbacks in stride and overcoming challenges.
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Post by irimi on Mar 12, 2022 16:13:37 GMT -8
Sorry rgeo. I was only reading the posts where groves said "huge let down" and you replied with "always a let down!" If you were referring to something else, I didn't pick that up. Without any argument all Pac12 (11) is the whole package. But I believe even T. Clauch would say his offense was good last year and his defense was lacking. Yep, but once we're deeper in Pac12 play the running game is a whole lot better than we've seen so far. And, the SB % has a lot to do with OSU having some very average times to the plate and average moves at best for several key pitchers. But, saying a key component to that team didn't "work hard" is BS. And, to me not an opinion. Stating some defensive deficiency, great. But, demeaning his work ethic and then tying it to AR not being here... unnecessary, total fabrication, and contradicts everything said about Troy when he was a member of the team. But your argument that getting deeper into Pac 12 play is important doesn’t really help Claunch, since he struggled early. If we compare this point last year and this year, I think you’ll see that our current catchers are probably better than Claunch. Hell, read the posts from last year. There was a lot of Claunch hate early on. I also think you have to be careful with your interpretation of what was said. I think the original post said something like Claunch didn’t work as hard once Rutschman left. It didn’t say that he didn’t work hard. I think Rutschman was a great leader, making a lot of people better. I also think Claunch had to work harder to match Rutschman. |
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Post by chinmusic on Mar 12, 2022 20:41:00 GMT -8
Be mindful of what you post because whatever you intended to say will be misunderstood and WW III will break out in Benny's House. OSU has 3 very good catchers in their program. Logan and Smith have been exceptional through 12 games and redshirt Wilson Weber needs to be mentioned in the same sentence. Vibes from Goss say he has the best arm of the bunch with big "pop" in his bat. There was no purpose in playing him this year - preserving a year of eligibility made sense. Watching Logan gun down base runners may give pause to the statement about Weber's arm strength but that is the word coming out of the program.
If you have been doing much reading, you've seen many writers mention the Transfer of Claunch as a serious loss, a heavy blow, how would we replace him, etc. Suffice it to say, I was in total disagreement with that. Troy is fine young man, a leader and had a good career at OSU - it was not my intention to slight him in any way but rather offer a response to the "Oh ain't it awful, you lost Claunch" nonsense.
No, it ain't awful and I really like what the Beavers have catching this year. I do not in any way think the Beavers are suffering over Troy's transfer. Logan has been good for a long time, injuries have hindered his progress. I suspect the Coaches are working hard with him on recognition and getting his barrel on plane. With those improvements, he could show us frequent 3 and 4 hit games.
Sorry to cause a ruckus on the board. I'll make an effort to keep my opinions to myself, be alert for the Thought Police, and keep the board politically correct. . . . . and not offend any grumpy old men.
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