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Post by beavsaregood on Apr 11, 2022 22:12:57 GMT -8
I just cannot believe Tinkle still has a job. Only in America...........errr.........at OSU.
If I were inconsistent with my job like a Tinkle, I'd be s%#t canned. It must be nice to really f up in epic proportions and still have a job. .........getting paid. Nice.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 11, 2022 22:23:15 GMT -8
OSU is a baseball school. Steven Kwan. Dude's en fuego. Will wait for Adley to kick tail in May. As for basketball, I laugh. hahaha! It's a sad joke. Herb Sendek coaches Santa Clara. He's a decent coach. He did okay at ASU, I think. He's turning around Santa Clara. Bennett at St. Mary's. Todd Golden turned around San Francisco and now at Florida. The WCC cellar dwellers are improving and OSU just flounders in inconsistency and mediocrity. And we went Craig Robinson followed by Tinkle time? Lester Conner? No. Bobby D snubbed an alum like Lester Conner. hahaha! No degree? So, experience as a NBA player, coach and management doesn't matter, I guess. How funny. GP I guess would be snubbed, too. He's coaching in Oakland. As Chuck Barkley would say, TURRIBLE. Just crap since the early 90s. OSU is a baseball school. If Lester had ever finished his degree he'd probably have been a coach here. He's been told that OSU requires a degree the last couple/few coaching switches here. Not the AD's fault on that one. As far as GP goes, the Oakland job is his first "real" coaching gig and they just started carryingthe sport. He supposedly coached in a three man league a couple years back and the article I read said he had a problem with showing up for practice at times if I recall correctly. He does have a degree I believe, but no real track record yet.
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Post by beavsaregood on Apr 11, 2022 23:20:36 GMT -8
I know. I just want something. A positive spark. Elite 8 was great. A three win season is not great. A five win season ain't great, also. If it means reaching back to the good old days, I'm interested.
Consistency would be nice. Not consistently below average, though.
I am just a fan. I see hope and improvement with football. Baseball is great. Wrestling. Gymnastics. Rueck is doing wonders with the women's bball team. So, there's hope.
So I support and wait. And wait. .........screw it. It's baseball season.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 12, 2022 6:22:27 GMT -8
Herb Sendeck coached at ASU for nine seasons. They went to the NCAAs twice, like Tinkle did, in fewer years. Unlike Tinkle's teams, ASU did not win a game in the NCAAs, much less win three and come within two minutes of a Final Four. So he actually did less, with far better resources, at ASU than Tinkle has done at OSU.
He has coached at Santa Clara for six seasons. They have not played a postseason game, NCAA, NIT, CBI, CIT, FBI, CIA or NOAA.
Todd Golden inherited a USF program that had won 20 games the previous three years under the former coach, now at WSU. He had a losing record his second year, got to the NCAAs this year and lost. He did not build anything at USF, a good program was already in place, and bailed as quickly as he could.
We tried to hire Bennett when we hired Robinson. He said then, and has continued to say, that he is not leaving the Bay Area (he did try for the Cal job once). So he was never an option.
Must Tinkle do better? Of course. He's made moves to do so, by shaking up the coaching staff. The new assistant hiring is a step in the right direction.
BTW, what is your job? I'm pretty certain if you would have been one of the top 8 people in the US in 2020-21 in your job you would not have been fired with a bad 21-22.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 12, 2022 9:48:14 GMT -8
Herb Sendeck coached at ASU for nine seasons. They went to the NCAAs twice, like Tinkle did, in fewer years. Unlike Tinkle's teams, ASU did not win a game in the NCAAs, much less win three and come within two minutes of a Final Four. So he actually did less, with far better resources, at ASU than Tinkle has done at OSU. He has coached at Santa Clara for six seasons. They have not played a postseason game, NCAA, NIT, CBI, CIT, FBI, CIA or NOAA. Todd Golden inherited a USF program that had won 20 games the previous three years under the former coach, now at WSU. He had a losing record his second year, got to the NCAAs this year and lost. He did not build anything at USF, a good program was already in place, and bailed as quickly as he could. We tried to hire Bennett when we hired Robinson. He said then, and has continued to say, that he is not leaving the Bay Area (he did try for the Cal job once). So he was never an option. Must Tinkle do better? Of course. He's made moves to do so, by shaking up the coaching staff. The new assistant hiring is a step in the right direction. BTW, what is your job? I'm pretty certain if you would have been one of the top 8 people in the US in 2020-21 in your job you would not have been fired with a bad 21-22. LOL... making it to the E8 in no way makes WT a "top 8" in his profession. No one believes that, not even you. He was listed at #96 in Active Coaches (by %) after year 3 at OSU... 199-145/.578 He has went 75-82/.478 since He is currently 274-225/.549 dropping him out of the top 125
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 12, 2022 12:28:25 GMT -8
LOL yourself baseballs. Tinkle's team made it to the Elite 8. One of only eight Division I teams to still be playing after three rounds of the NCAA tournament. So he was top 8 for that year. Which is what I said.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 12, 2022 12:56:45 GMT -8
LOL yourself baseballs. Tinkle's team made it to the Elite 8. One of only eight Division I teams to still be playing after three rounds of the NCAA tournament. So he was top 8 for that year. Which is what I said. I no world, athletic or biz, does a good year equate with being a top level leader. Pretty simple concept meaning even simpletons can understand.
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 12, 2022 13:21:55 GMT -8
LOL yourself baseballs. Tinkle's team made it to the Elite 8. One of only eight Division I teams to still be playing after three rounds of the NCAA tournament. So he was top 8 for that year. Which is what I said. I no world, athletic or biz, does a good year equate with being a top level leader. Pretty simple concept meaning even simpletons can understand. You don't no (know) world.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 12, 2022 14:26:52 GMT -8
LOL yourself baseballs. Tinkle's team made it to the Elite 8. One of only eight Division I teams to still be playing after three rounds of the NCAA tournament. So he was top 8 for that year. Which is what I said. I no world, athletic or biz, does a good year equate with being a top level leader. Pretty simple concept meaning even simpletons can understand. So, a golfer, jockey, driver, etc., who finishes in the top eight in earnings for a competitive year isn't a top-level leader for that year? Good to know. Do many think Ed Cooley is one of the top 8 college coaches in the country? Probably not. But guess what, in 2021-22 he had a great year and won the Naismith Men's College Coach Of The Year Award. Guess that makes him a top-level leader, at least for a year. The only simpleton here is the one you see in the mirror every morning. PS: Getting to the Elite 8 and winning the Pac-12 tournament championship is a great year. Not a good year.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 12, 2022 14:46:10 GMT -8
I no world, athletic or biz, does a good year equate with being a top level leader. Pretty simple concept meaning even simpletons can understand. So, a golfer, jockey, driver, etc., who finishes in the top eight in earnings for a competitive year isn't a top-level leader for that year? Good to know. Do many think Ed Cooley is one of the top 8 college coaches in the country? Probably not. But guess what, in 2021-22 he had a great year and won the Naismith Men's College Coach Of The Year Award. Guess that makes him a top-level leader, at least for a year. The only simpleton here is the one you see in the mirror every morning. PS: Getting to the Elite 8 and winning the Pac-12 tournament championship is a great year. Not a good year. 😂
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 12, 2022 15:03:56 GMT -8
You'd think if tinkle was really the 8th best coach a couple of years ago schools from around the country would have called Barnes for permission to chat with tinkle. Yet not a single school called. Should tell you something,
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 12, 2022 15:09:40 GMT -8
You'd think if tinkle was really the 8th best coach a couple of years ago schools from around the country would have called Barnes for permission to chat with tinkle. Yet not a single school called. Should tell you something, And you're sure no one did?
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 12, 2022 15:12:05 GMT -8
You'd think if tinkle was really the 8th best coach a couple of years ago schools from around the country would have called Barnes for permission to chat with tinkle. Yet not a single school called. Should tell you something, And you're sure no one did? Yep.
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 12, 2022 15:13:18 GMT -8
And you're sure no one did? Yep. Really? Because unless your Barnes or Tinkle, you wouldn't know that. You're just assuming.
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 12, 2022 15:14:52 GMT -8
There are a lot of people that work in the athletic department.
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