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Post by ricke71 on Dec 22, 2021 18:03:51 GMT -8
Taya is often mentioned especially in reference to her defensive abilities. Concur. Her defense and rebounding are frequently mentioned. She leads the team in blocked shots, second in rebounds. "does she deserve to be a starter on this team?" I'd say yes - and Rueck seems to agree, beginning with her freshman season. Through her career he has consistently used her in the top 3 in minutes per game (she leads team this season in that stat). More than once Rueck has used her for the 40 full minutes during post-season NCAA tournament games. She's a 'glue' player who helps keep the show on track, on both defense and offense. Fans might wish that she was a slashing small forward, or that she hit a ton of 3's, and averaged 18 pts per game...and I personally wished that after her freshman season. But I'll 'take' the glue thing anytime.
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Post by lotrader on Dec 23, 2021 7:32:29 GMT -8
Taya is the most versatile defender on our team. She guards anywhere from Haley Jones to Aliyah Boston. When OSU runs their offensive sets by passing into the high post, it is generally Taya at the high post making the next important pass. Taya is not a prolific scorer, but at 6'3" she does draw her defender away from the key with her ability to hit the 3-pointer. Taya is going to the rim a bit more this season, which is great to see. Taya is historically, one of our better free-throw shooters (percentage).
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Post by beaverstever on Dec 23, 2021 9:07:00 GMT -8
I think the frustration for me with Taya is that she’s statistically been pretty much the same player since her frosh year. Particularly her first year those numbers where huge to that team augmenting a team with strong leads. So now it’s her turn to be a - or the - go-to player and her game hasn’t evolved to that. I think it’s pretty hard to make a case that someone else gets her minutes though, but I get the frustration given this team could really benefit from her being more aggressive about looking to score.
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Post by 411500 on Dec 23, 2021 11:06:41 GMT -8
In general, I agree with what you say about Taya....But it's a bit of problem when you write: "this team could really benefit from her being more aggressive about looking to score." The problem with this is that Taya has not acquired the skill set to be more aggressive when it comes to scoring.
She has not learned to attack the basket off the dribble, she has not learned to post low with her back to the basket, she has not acquired a pull up jumper. In essence, she can nail an open 3, and once in a while grab an offensive board...... She has been in the program 4 years now, so it's not in the cards that she is going to suddenly get offensive skills at this stage of her career.
Now, this is no put down on Taya or her game. She is more than solid in playing her role on offense, she plays good defense, and she rebounds. As someone pointed out, Rueck didn't play her for 40 minutes against Tennessee in her Frosh year for no reason. But if you watch that game closely (as many of you have) you will easily see that her offensive skills then were pretty much what they are now....
Taya is at her best when she has teammates who can score, who can attack, who can make defenders sag or collapse so that she can square up for 3s...But, on her own, she has remarkably limited offensive skills.
When Talia and Kennedy get their offensive act together you will see Taya get more and more open shots - - and almost all of them will come from the wing or the baseline corner and they will be 3s.....
I'm a big Taya fan, and I admire her game. But I do not attribute to her skills that she does not possess. GO BEAVS!!
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Post by ricke71 on Dec 23, 2021 11:39:13 GMT -8
Wouldn't it be great if Taya decided to play next season and could mentor Timea Gardiner? Perhaps Timea can become the D-1 player that many had envisioned Taya developing into.
I'm thankful that the Beavs have had a player of Taya's skill set, and pure class on their squad since the Fall of 2017. In this era of 4-star and 5-star recruits coming to play for OSU, it was way-back-when that Taya was one of the trailblazers in that regard.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Dec 23, 2021 11:42:37 GMT -8
Wouldn't it be great if Taya decided to play next season and could mentor Timea Gardiner? Perhaps Timea can become the D-1 player that many had envisioned Taya developing into. I'm thankful that the Beavs have had a player of Taya's skill set, and pure class on their squad since the Fall of 2017. In this era of 4-star and 5-star recruits coming to play for OSU, it was way-back-when that Taya was one of the trailblazers in that regard. I for one would welcome her back. Barring any grad transfers she would be the lone senior.
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Post by shelby on Dec 23, 2021 12:06:42 GMT -8
I think Taya’s game is based on being the ultimate teammate. She does whatever is required at the time, and does it pretty much mistake free ! She never gets frazzled and that helps to slow the game down for everyone else . I would love to see her back, depending on what her own goals are - and what she needs to peak out on her education ! Go Beavers !
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Post by jimbob on Dec 24, 2021 0:04:44 GMT -8
Taya is an outstanding defender. She normally gets the assigned coverage for whoever the opponent best 3, 4 or 5 may be. She’s also the bridge to us beating Tennessee (at home) and Baylor from three years ago. She is the anchor of this team. Good comment gustafgg.....I think Taya is now fully recovered from her major injury a couple of years ago and back in her groove.....this is what I wrote after the N.Iowa game-----...."and Corosdale was excellent tonight....she was moving really well on the court and creating havoc on defense blocking shots and was solid offensively including a great quick post move where she faked one-way--turned the other way and scored and also making a clutch 3 in the 4th Q when N-Iowa was rallying."
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Post by grad1973 on Dec 25, 2021 22:51:47 GMT -8
I think we are not getting enough out of either Ellie or taya for their experience level. By points the two leaders are inexperienced freshman. So taya and Ellie are content to let these players do all the scoring? Don’t think so. I include Kennedy with this also. We are missing easy points inside do to lack of offensive player skills from our more experienced players. Someone made the comment Taya needs to mentor tamea next year when Temea gets here. Is a joke in my opinion. Temea is incredibly polished compared to Taya. In a totally different realm than Taya. Sorry to be blunt. Both posts coming in will start right away next year they are both very gifted in all there phases. If there knees stay healthy! One man’s opinion.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Dec 26, 2021 9:02:42 GMT -8
Unless there are either injuries or transferring out there is very little chance that that the new freshmen will start from game one. Maybe by conference play but even then I doubt it.
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Post by norm on Dec 26, 2021 16:27:44 GMT -8
Agree. If Taylor, Kennedy, and Taya are on the roster in 2022, Timea and Reagan will not be starters. As we have seen over and over and over again, there is a big difference between HS basketball and Top 25 D1 basketball. They will definitely be in the rotation though.
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Post by grad1973 on Dec 26, 2021 20:07:34 GMT -8
I’ve seen all the girls referred to as experienced players in our system none of them are as polished offensively as The kids coming in next year. The ladies on board have very few developed post skills even after two to 4 years playing here. We are talking apples and oranges. Have you ever watched Timea shoot. She’s incredible. She is far advanced to Taylor or Kennedy. These two girls have not quite the Ht but physically they are very strong ladies also. I don’t understand why Taylor who I think is a real strong lady. But hasn’t learned the foot work to drop step left or right with consistency. I feel bad for kids in the program who don’t show alot of improvement in our system. But I see this with games we are in against much smaller front lines this year. Our posts aren’t bad but are average and a lot of games can’t take over the other teams inside. Because they don’t understand how to position themselves properly and understand how to use there pivot foot elbow leverage to go sround there defender. Also both Kennedy and our 6/9 girls first instinct is to drop the ball down instead of keep it high. They want to dribble on the floor and move at 6/9. That means they will get the ball taken away most the time either by a steel or possession arrow jump ball. These habits hurt our chance inside to much. One man’s opinion.
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Post by beaverstever on Dec 26, 2021 20:08:23 GMT -8
Agree. If Taylor, Kennedy, and Taya are on the roster in 2022, Timea and Reagan will not be starters. As we have seen over and over and over again, there is a big difference between HS basketball and Top 25 D1 basketball. They will definitely be in the rotation though. Cameron Brink and Alissa Pili made the transitions pretty seamlessly, as did our own Tia. For that matter, Taylor, Kennedy and Taya brought much of what they currently bring as freshman. I expect Timea in particular to push for a lot of minutes right away. She is a scoring threat at all levels and means she is a huge matchup problem for any opponent - we do not have that on the floor currently, and can be an answer to our scoring droughts. Reagan has a body that looks Pac-12 ready as well, and expect her an alternative to Taylor on the block that will be a very different challenge - she could really wear down low-post defenders. Imagine how much more effective Taylor would be if her defender was too tired to push her off her spots? That can happen if Reagan gets good minutes as well on the block. I’m general, unless our starters at the 3-5 positions become more of a scoring threat by next season, I fully expect these two will see a lot of minutes, starters or not. The only thing I see keeping the off the floor is being defensive liabilities, and they appear too fundamentally sound for that to be an issue.
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Post by norm on Dec 26, 2021 20:53:45 GMT -8
Agree. If Taylor, Kennedy, and Taya are on the roster in 2022, Timea and Reagan will not be starters. As we have seen over and over and over again, there is a big difference between HS basketball and Top 25 D1 basketball. They will definitely be in the rotation though. Cameron Brink and Alissa Pili made the transitions pretty seamlessly, as did our own Tia. For that matter, Taylor, Kennedy and Taya brought much of what they currently bring as freshman. I expect Timea in particular to push for a lot of minutes right away. She is a scoring threat at all levels and means she is a huge matchup problem for any opponent - we do not have that on the floor currently, and can be an answer to our scoring droughts. Reagan has a body that looks Pac-12 ready as well, and expect her an alternative to Taylor on the block that will be a very different challenge - she could really wear down low-post defenders. Imagine how much more effective Taylor would be if her defender was too tired to push her off her spots? That can happen if Reagan gets good minutes as well on the block. I’m general, unless our starters at the 3-5 positions become more of a scoring threat by next season, I fully expect these two will see a lot of minutes, starters or not. The only thing I see keeping the off the floor is being defensive liabilities, and they appear too fundamentally sound for that to be an issue. Agree with all of the above. Incoming players will definitely be in the rotation and get a lot of mins. They just (in my opinion) won’t start right away as 1973 feels they will. 1973 may be right, I just don’t think so based on what I have seen over the years. Either way, love that we will add two top 10 players next year.
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Post by beaveragain on Dec 27, 2021 0:16:35 GMT -8
On Taya-
Her blocks have doubled and her fouls have dropped to a half of what they were last season. Overall, along with Brown and Jones, she gives the Beav's an great interior defense. Also Taya's rebounding has significantly improved this year. She is not going to be a prolific scorer, but in Rueck's system that is more the post and the guards jobs. Hard to blame her for what she isn't supposed to be doing.
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